07:02:03 <eumel8> #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting
07:02:04 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Sep 21 07:02:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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07:02:18 <eumel8> good morning, first
07:02:27 <jpich> Good morning!
07:02:35 <ianychoi> hi
07:02:45 <tono> hi
07:03:17 <eumel8> good morning, amotoki, jpich, ianychoi, tono
07:03:29 <ianychoi> i conflict with another thing but I will try to see here
07:04:03 <eumel8> who else for the I18n team meeting?
07:04:27 <eumel8> my only conclict is the missing breakfast
07:05:04 <jpich> haha
07:05:19 * jpich just had time to make tea
07:05:25 <jpich> weren't we talking about moving this meeting?
07:05:25 <eumel8> but not american style ;)
07:05:30 <jpich> nope
07:06:00 <eumel8> so, it seems anybody got save home after the ptg
07:06:17 <jpich> sleepy & safe
07:06:51 <eumel8> sleepy only in daylight ;)
07:06:54 <eumel8> #topic: PTG Recap
07:07:41 <eumel8> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-ptg-queens-summary
07:08:44 <eumel8> jpich is not on the meeting attendee list for ptg - maybe too many partys...
07:09:17 <jpich> Haha, I was only in at the one session at 11 on Monday morning
07:09:28 <jpich> The bad student at the back
07:09:30 <jpich> Cool parties though ;)
07:10:26 <eumel8> als I already mentioned: Petr gave for the Docs team and kindly for the I18n team a summary in email.
07:11:09 <eumel8> I concentrated more on the work of our own team and listed only related stuff for us
07:11:46 <eumel8> Docs team worked on a new mission statement, that was nice to see
07:12:31 <eumel8> due the fact that other project teams are more involved with documentation we had many contacts to such kind of teams
07:12:46 <eumel8> but no special questions for I18n
07:13:36 <eumel8> amotoki brought two topics on the table
07:14:24 <eumel8> first thing (splitting po files) he will start a conversation with a spec or on the mailing list
07:15:16 <eumel8> the second thing, and that would be nice, a language index on each doc site like in the I18n guide.
07:15:54 <eumel8> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/denver-i18n-PTG
07:15:57 <jpich> ++
07:18:00 <eumel8> there are some problems to discuss but I would support this feature because it's easier to read and has a better user experience
07:18:30 <jpich> It looks very nice
07:18:39 <tono> ++
07:19:58 <eumel8> there is also an older proposal available: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481850/
07:19:58 <patchbot> patch 481850 - openstack-infra/project-config - build-releasenotes: Add language index to all files
07:21:37 <eumel8> amotoki: so it would be nice if we can further work in this
07:22:13 <eumel8> next
07:23:21 <eumel8> project update I gave the RDO guys: #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yijPKREz37I
07:24:27 <eumel8> unfortunatelly ianychoi wasn't there. hopefully I covered all topics of the last cycle and presented the team worthy
07:25:15 <jpich> Nice! Will listen after the meeting
07:25:37 <eumel8> the Foundation will use this and I can provide also some slides later
07:25:57 <eumel8> next
07:26:58 <eumel8> the Policy in Code session which I partly attended. It's more or less a project triggered by the Keystone team and it seems we are not affected
07:27:20 <eumel8> next
07:27:33 <eumel8> Translation checksite
07:28:27 <eumel8> at first we made another video with Andy and Rob as a OpenStack cross-project sucess story: #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17-gqGTZ8ag
07:29:06 <eumel8> hopefully we got the right message
07:29:33 <eumel8> and it's some advertising for each team (osa, horizon, i18n)
07:30:29 <eumel8> then we worked 2 days for the final installation and we had some progress, indeed.
07:30:49 <eumel8> but at the end the result is still missing
07:31:03 <eumel8> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487936/
07:31:03 <patchbot> patch 487936 - openstack-infra/system-config - Installation of i18n-checksite.openstack.org
07:32:18 <eumel8> the infra team was too busy and as I mentioned on Etherpad I wouldn't spend more effort
07:32:29 <eumel8> next
07:32:46 <eumel8> Zanata upgrade to version 4.3
07:33:20 <eumel8> this was not covered during ptg due the missing preparations
07:34:11 <eumel8> version 4.3.0 is still in developement but nearly the release
07:34:50 <eumel8> i tested the installation last night and there are still some problems with openid
07:35:13 <eumel8> will investigate this with zanata guys before we go on the upgrade
07:35:56 <eumel8> but I collected some information about update procedure for going on this topic
07:36:25 <eumel8> next
07:36:50 <eumel8> there is a new thing from the OpenStack Foundation what we can support
07:37:10 <eumel8> the new contributor portal: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/contributor-portal
07:37:52 <eumel8> first we can promote working as a translator, second the portal will goe multi-lingual
07:38:13 <eumel8> this means, there will be some stuff to translate :)
07:39:17 <eumel8> but I like the idea and there are also enough thankful people for our work on translation stuff :)
07:40:03 <eumel8> next
07:40:10 <eumel8> Queens Prioritization and Roadmapping
07:40:36 <eumel8> this was also not covered on PTG because not enough people where there to discuss
07:42:19 <amotoki> eumel8: from the next meeting, it looks better to use #topic xxxx
07:42:22 <eumel8> from the project teams were no new requirements so we can simple distinguish between translation of Horizon stuff and Doc translating
07:43:01 <eumel8> amotoki: thats true, but I'm near at the end now ;)
07:43:02 <amotoki> or is it still part of PTG recap?
07:43:08 <amotoki> yeah
07:43:11 <amotoki> no problem
07:43:13 <eumel8> yes, only recap
07:43:29 <eumel8> we can discuss special topics in the next meetings, of course
07:44:41 <eumel8> ianychoi: I tried to contact you for the merging stuff in Zanata. If I understood right we have to merge stable-zanata back to master branch and work further on this, isn't it?
07:46:31 <amotoki> yes, that's same as my understanding too
07:46:47 <ianychoi> eumel8, yes!
07:47:22 <eumel8> ok, then I move in the right direction
07:47:38 <ianychoi> :)
07:48:08 <eumel8> I prepared a new dashboard in zanata named Queens and promoted this together with doc dashboard on zanata frontpage
07:48:52 <eumel8> together with ower I18n guide and the user survey we have 4 workloads there
07:49:34 <ianychoi> eumel8, I am not sure but we might need to check whether we need to translate user survey answers
07:49:52 <ianychoi> and also what we need to prepare for next user survey
07:50:18 <eumel8> ianychoi: I know, it's still over. that's why is it the last topic on the list
07:50:49 <ianychoi> And.. for I18n project updates, I am finding I18n members who can speak..
07:50:56 <jpich> About the Queens category on Zanata front page, tripleo-ui isn't a dashboard plugin but perhaps it's easier to classify like this. I think ironic-ui isn't a horizon plugin either. I don't know if the category name really matters
07:50:59 <ianychoi> tono, will u go to Sydney?
07:51:08 <tono> no
07:51:39 <ianychoi> tono, ? didn't u apply travel support?
07:51:46 <robcresswell> jpich: ironic-ui is a horizon plugin :)
07:52:07 <tono> Not yet.
07:52:13 <ianychoi> ironic-ui is a horizon plugin yes
07:52:16 <jpich> robcresswell: Ooops, my bad then! I thought there was a standalone js project at some point, thank you
07:52:49 <robcresswell> There was, but it died
07:52:57 <ianychoi> tono, oh that's too bad.. I thought that you would get travel support easily since you are the top translation contributor
07:53:03 <jpich> Just ignore me then, thank you for snuggling tripleo-ui in there
07:53:05 <jpich> robcresswell: :(
07:53:13 <robcresswell> I think travel support is closed too, unfortunately :(
07:53:35 <ianychoi> robcresswell, right :(
07:53:53 <eumel8> jpich: "dashboard" is here in the sense of zanata dashboard which is a group of projects and branches
07:54:28 <jpich> eumel8: Haha, maybe I need more tea. Thanks, I'm sorry for the noise :)
07:54:36 <eumel8> ;)
07:55:15 <eumel8> so, next PTG will possibly held in Dublin (Ireland). Maybe it's helpful for some people...
07:55:27 <jpich> \o/ \o/ \o/
07:55:47 <ianychoi> jpich, your location? Dublin!
07:55:54 <jpich> Yup :)
07:56:09 <ianychoi> Yey :)
07:56:11 <robcresswell> \o/ If its Dublin, I will likely be there too
07:56:12 <eumel8> don't worry about the city guide ;)
07:56:27 <ianychoi> haha
07:56:57 <eumel8> #topic no shows at Sydney Summit
07:57:59 <eumel8> as I already mentioned, I gave the project update still in Denver I decided not to go to Sydney.
07:58:39 <eumel8> the zanata guys will be there, also with a nice session but the travel will be really far away
07:58:48 <ianychoi> eumel8, i see and understand - don't worry too much
07:59:06 <jpich> It is very far
07:59:45 <eumel8> ianychoi: I contact the Foundation for the time open time slot and it seems okay to loose them. They will use the video from Denver
07:59:57 <eumel8> so, time is over
07:59:58 <ianychoi> amotoki, I think you would be busy but hope to also help Zanata team
08:00:01 <eumel8> #topic Open Discussion
08:00:07 <ianychoi> eumel8, thank u!
08:00:16 <eumel8> more discussions in i18n channel
08:00:21 <eumel8> thx to all
08:00:27 <ianychoi> Thx all!
08:00:27 <eumel8> #endmeeting