16:01:47 <vkmc> #startmeeting openstack outreachy may-aug 2018: end of internship
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16:02:03 <vkmc> #topic rollcall
16:02:18 <vkmc> who is here for the end of internship meeting?
16:02:20 <vkmc> o/
16:02:26 <maysamacedos> o/
16:02:38 <Suramya> o/
16:02:51 <oikiki> o/
16:03:13 <strigazi> o/
16:03:36 <vkmc> :)
16:04:02 <vkmc> we are missing phionah, but let's get started
16:04:12 <vkmc> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/outreachy-may-aug-end-of-internship
16:04:21 <vkmc> the agenda can be accessed on that etherpad
16:04:42 <celebdor> o/
16:04:45 <maysamacedos> I will start then :)
16:04:55 <vkmc> yayy
16:04:58 <maysamacedos> Hi everyone
16:05:08 <maysamacedos> My internship was filled with novelty and learning
16:05:12 <vkmc> wait, the agenda is outdated
16:05:13 <Suramya> hello :)
16:05:29 <phionah> hello :)
16:05:46 <oikiki> hi!
16:05:53 <maysamacedos> may I continue vkmc?
16:06:05 <vkmc> maysamacedos, please do
16:06:10 <maysamacedos> ok :)
16:06:13 <vkmc> #topic outreachy take-aways from interns
16:06:21 <maysamacedos> I have been able to dive into more details about k8s and Networking,
16:06:33 <maysamacedos> while adding health verifications that assures the good state of Kuryr components
16:07:07 <maysamacedos> and enabled them to be probed by the deployer or the orchestration layer.
16:07:20 <maysamacedos> I am currently working on an additional task, that aims to extend a Kubectl plugin.
16:07:31 <maysamacedos> It has been an adventure to work with k8s/neutron and to manage some deployment difficulties.
16:07:47 <maysamacedos> Lastly, It has been really amazing to work with such collaborative people as the Kuryr community
16:08:06 <maysamacedos> all of them and specially my mentor, celebdor, were pivotal to the fulfillment of the project.
16:09:05 <vkmc> that's so awesome
16:09:10 <phionah> That is great work maysamacedos
16:09:17 <vkmc> k8s is a really hot topic nowadays
16:09:19 <maysamacedos> :D
16:09:38 <vkmc> I'm happy to hear you worked on interesting stuff and that you felt good with the community :)
16:09:47 <vkmc> thanks maysamacedos and celebdor for your hard work!
16:10:02 <celebdor> Really, really good work and maysamacedos investigated all the components and developed really good solutions :-)
16:10:19 <celebdor> vkmc: thank you for the chance to mentor
16:10:25 <celebdor> it's been great!
16:10:36 <vkmc> that's really awesome
16:10:59 <vkmc> celebdor, hope you had a great time too... mentoring is unlike any other experience you could have working on open source
16:11:30 <maysamacedos> I feel really happy by knowing I've developed good solutions
16:11:44 <maysamacedos> thanks celebdor and vkmc for the feedback
16:11:52 <vkmc> +1
16:11:54 <celebdor> it was great! I couldn't ask for more
16:12:14 <vkmc> so... next in the agenda
16:12:16 <celebdor> well, more time would be good :P
16:12:24 <phionah> Well I think I can also give an update.. sorry I joined late
16:12:24 <maysamacedos> :D
16:12:24 <vkmc> oikiki, floor is yours!
16:12:28 <oikiki> hi!
16:12:40 <vkmc> celebdor, I'll add that request on Outreachy planning :D
16:12:47 <oikiki> I worked on Magnum with my mentor strigazi
16:12:52 <vkmc> phionah, we are following this agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/outreachy-may-aug-end-of-internship :)
16:13:14 <phionah> ohh noted thanks
16:13:22 <vkmc> anytime
16:13:50 <oikiki> i added a security feature that allowed requests to go over ssl, and 2 features that improved performance when magnum has a lot of clusters
16:14:18 <oikiki> im currently working on/finishing integrating a prometheus/grafana monitoring stack into docker swarm-mode clusters
16:14:29 <oikiki> (it's not finished but i dont rest until it is!)
16:14:37 <strigazi> :)
16:14:52 <vkmc> impressive :o
16:14:55 <oikiki> i learned a LOT and learned how to be independent
16:15:03 <vkmc> another one container-related, I love it
16:15:03 <oikiki> and how to try my very best to figure things out
16:15:05 <maysamacedos> That's nice oikiki
16:15:12 <oikiki> and maybe 90% of the time i could!
16:15:27 <oikiki> i feel a lot more comfortable going through a huge complicated codebase as well
16:15:36 <oikiki> im really lucky with the tasks strigazi came up with
16:15:41 <oikiki> bc they pushed me a lot
16:15:47 <vkmc> nice, that's really good... independence and proactivity is key on software development, it's a great skill to gain
16:15:48 <oikiki> and bc of him i learned a ton
16:16:03 <oikiki> yes i was so happy strigazi gave me real tasks to work on
16:16:10 <oikiki> it felt great!
16:16:16 <strigazi> Thanks oikiki for all the hard work! Magnum is not very complicated if you habve a cloud to play with
16:16:27 <strigazi> what you did on your own is no trivial
16:16:47 <strigazi> fixing bugs for large deployments
16:16:52 <oikiki> :)
16:17:26 <strigazi> With little help oikiki found her way with gerrit, pushing to stable etc
16:17:44 <strigazi> thanks oikiki!
16:17:52 <oikiki> :D
16:18:00 <oikiki> thanks strigazi!
16:18:15 <vkmc> :D
16:18:24 <vkmc> strigazi, you were mentoring for the first time as well, right?
16:18:31 <strigazi> yes
16:18:42 <vkmc> that's very good, hope you enjoyed it as well
16:18:44 <strigazi> I mean officialy for such a program
16:19:02 <vkmc> that's great :)
16:19:06 <strigazi> I did, outreachy is great for both sides :)
16:19:21 <vkmc> :D :D
16:19:24 <vkmc> cool!
16:19:35 <vkmc> very well, so... next is Suramya
16:19:41 <vkmc> Suramya, we hear ya!
16:19:50 <Suramya> Sure :)
16:20:02 <Suramya> So my task was to go through the project's entire API reference and apply conventions and consistency. It first started with the reorganization of the entire api-ref of Keystone docs and once that was over I moved into consolidating the guides.
16:20:59 <Suramya> It was all possible with my mentor lbragstad who taught me about various topics and one more thing I learned was blogging :D
16:21:22 <Suramya> now I plan to blog once a week :)
16:21:48 <vkmc> that's very cool
16:21:57 <vkmc> it's very useful for people
16:21:58 <vkmc> for realz
16:22:14 <Suramya> The programme also taught me the other sides of software development besides code i.e docs are actually helpful too :)
16:22:43 <celebdor> really important
16:22:43 <vkmc> oh yes
16:22:47 <vkmc> truly important
16:22:59 <vkmc> more in this kind of projects... that change so fast
16:23:08 <celebdor> the only bad thing is when projects start dropping the ball on documentation, people start to check it less and less...
16:23:28 <celebdor> and it ends up that you sometimes end up going to check the code straight to find out things because you don't trust the docs anymore
16:23:32 <celebdor> it is sad
16:23:39 <vkmc> yeah, it's the first thing we drop when we don't have enough hands
16:23:41 <celebdor> but it does happen in OpenStack sometimes
16:23:53 <Suramya> yeah that :)
16:23:54 <vkmc> and it's a real problem... because code ends up being unusable
16:24:34 <celebdor> I wouldn't go as far, I'd just say that it makes the project barrier of entry to "I really need to use this" levels
16:24:36 * mahatic_ waves
16:24:41 <Suramya> I really liked the pike theme then so that all project developers could mantain their own docs.
16:24:51 <vkmc> very well, great work Suramya
16:24:54 <vkmc> mahatic_, \o
16:25:12 <mahatic_> vkmc: o/
16:25:25 <Suramya> Thanks vkmc :)
16:25:38 <vkmc> and thanks a lot to lbragstad as well
16:25:48 <vkmc> I think he was mentor for the first time as well
16:26:01 <vkmc> this round was all about new experiences
16:26:24 <vkmc> all right... last but not least, phionah \o/
16:26:35 <Suramya> yes lbragstad: was the first time mentor but he never made me feel so :)
16:26:41 <phionah> sure thanks:)
16:26:42 <vkmc> :D
16:27:04 <phionah> Well for my nternship I have been working on the openstack in kubernetes
16:27:25 <phionah> The major milestone being
16:27:48 <phionah> 1. Implementing E2E tests for openstack in k8s
16:28:31 <celebdor> The cloud provider, right?
16:29:14 <phionah> and 2. Providing for dynamically loading credentials when accessing openstack resources in kubernetes where we are trying to optionally use secrets in addition to using credentials in a config file.
16:29:32 <phionah> This makes the process more flexible..
16:29:58 <phionah> Am still finishing some work on this dynamic loading of credentials until mergeable.
16:30:08 <vkmc> that's very sensible work
16:30:13 <vkmc> very good
16:30:50 <vkmc> and truly useful
16:30:51 <phionah> I have also worked on some tests on the external openstack kubernetes controller on authorization and authentication and some other tests in kubernetes
16:30:53 <cmurphy> Suramya_: o/
16:31:16 <phionah> Ofcourse dims has been the person of this season for me..
16:31:40 <phionah> answering every question good and dumb and I can not take that for granted
16:31:54 <vkmc> yaaay dims
16:32:11 <vkmc> he has been our mentor for like... always
16:32:22 <mahatic_> :)
16:32:23 <mahatic_> yes
16:32:26 <mahatic_> indeed
16:32:28 <phionah> The experience has given confidence as an engineer to the point that now am confortable dicussing and sharing knowledge on technical topics
16:32:32 <Suramya> Sorry for the interruption meet cmurphy: she was co-mentoring me along with lbragstad: :)
16:32:48 <vkmc> cmurphy, \o
16:32:51 <cmurphy> hello
16:33:02 <mahatic_> hello
16:33:08 <vkmc> cmurphy, thanks for co-mentor Suramya!
16:33:16 <vkmc> that's so awesome
16:33:30 <maysamacedos> hi cmurphy o/
16:33:38 <phionah> But Ihave also learned how to collaborate on a project with others, communication, I feel like a proffessional now and ready to take on software developer roles confidently
16:33:54 <Suramya> vkmc: yes actually she was there whenever lbragstad: coudn't be :)
16:34:06 <vkmc> phionah, that's really good to hear... apart from the technical knowledge, being able to speak up and be confident on your work is mandatory
16:34:19 <phionah> So thanks coordinators and mentors .. and like I said I will always cherish the opportunity I had with openstack during outreachy
16:34:20 <mahatic_> phionah: that's great to know
16:34:26 <Suramya> thats so great phionah:
16:34:30 <maysamacedos> Nice phionah, I feel the same way :D
16:34:33 <vkmc> phionah, it's so good to hear, hopefully, if you are interested, you can get a full time position working on openstack
16:35:09 <oikiki> o/ me too please
16:35:10 <oikiki> :D
16:35:11 <phionah> Yes I will be happy to :)
16:35:22 <vkmc> Suramya, cmurphy, that's so good... we actually expect that to happen during this internship... mentees getting to know the community, not only their mentors... I'm glad to hear this happened for you!
16:36:30 <vkmc> thanks all for your updates
16:36:38 <vkmc> you all have worked in really exciting stuff
16:36:41 <mahatic_> oikiki: we are hoping for all the interns whoever is interested :) so of course good luck!
16:37:10 <mahatic_> yeah, great work everyone!
16:37:12 <vkmc> and I'm happy to hear you had a good time and that you feel more confident professionally-wise
16:37:23 <vkmc> great job!
16:37:43 <vkmc> so we have 25 mins more or less
16:37:48 <mahatic_> it's very nice to hear the progress you all made and the things you've learned
16:38:01 <vkmc> let's go over blockers quickly
16:38:09 <vkmc> #topic blockers for interns
16:38:33 <vkmc> what were the most hard things for you? is there a way we could make it easier in the future?
16:38:53 <vkmc> let's start with maysamacedos
16:40:01 <maysamacedos> well, I only had one blocker regarding env setup that I needed more memory
16:40:06 <maysamacedos> In order to work
16:40:46 <maysamacedos> But I manage it later
16:40:49 <vkmc> yup, this is something we have been struggling since always
16:40:51 <vkmc> resources
16:40:57 <maysamacedos> yup
16:41:28 <vkmc> we will continue brainstorming on this
16:41:38 <maysamacedos> good :)
16:41:42 <vkmc> maybe we could get help from sponsors and get some instances in some cloud
16:42:03 <maysamacedos> ooh, this would be great
16:42:15 <vkmc> oikiki, what about you, what was the biggest blocker for you?
16:42:27 <oikiki> looking back i think the timing (like the release coming) make things hard bc things slow down and people get busy. so i kind of wish the program was longer :)
16:42:36 <celebdor> maysamacedos: you don't want instances in rdocloud xD
16:42:47 <oikiki> on a smaller team something like that can slow you down bc there aren't that many people there in the first place
16:42:50 <celebdor> then you trust them, then they break without you touching them xD
16:42:55 <vkmc> celebdor, lol
16:43:19 <vkmc> oikiki, it's a good point
16:43:34 <oikiki> i also had the memory issue as maysamacedos
16:43:34 <maysamacedos> celebdor oh god
16:43:40 <vkmc> the release cycle has always been opposite to outreachy internships
16:43:40 <maysamacedos> ahahha
16:43:46 <vkmc> and that's is quite hard for everybody
16:43:49 <oikiki> but i figured out how to run on a digital ocean droplet
16:43:58 <oikiki> for pretty cheap!
16:44:06 <vkmc> cool!
16:44:22 <vkmc> we could take a look into that next time
16:44:24 <vkmc> as a workaround
16:44:42 <oikiki> i wrote a blog on how i set it up
16:44:42 <celebdor> I'm not in the ad business, but I tend to use scaleway since I'm a cheapskates
16:44:52 <vkmc> celebdor, good suggestion
16:44:55 <vkmc> oikiki, nice!
16:45:01 <mahatic_> oikiki: I was just about to suggest for a blogpost :) that's great! good job!
16:45:03 <celebdor> oikiki: could you link to it?
16:45:10 <vkmc> I'll look for it and add it in the etherpad... for future reference
16:45:19 <vkmc> oh yes
16:45:20 <vkmc> :D
16:45:33 <vkmc> Suramya, want to go next, on the mean time?
16:45:51 <maysamacedos> nice celebdor, I will take a look
16:46:00 <oikiki> its here: https://medium.com/@cloudsandcontainers
16:46:04 <oikiki> ill link in the etherpad
16:46:11 <vkmc> oikiki, awesome, thanks!
16:46:19 <Suramya> Well no such blocker during the internship but while in  the application process. It would be great to have more mentors in outreachy and projects as it is sometimes difficult for the beginners to see where to get started.
16:46:35 <vkmc> Suramya, that's a good point
16:47:11 <vkmc> it's really important to have proper guidance at the beginning
16:47:19 <vkmc> make things easier for both mentors and mentees
16:47:32 <vkmc> phionah, what are your thoughts on this?
16:47:40 <vkmc> what kind of blockers did you find?
16:47:41 <phionah> yes sure
16:49:22 <phionah> So my biggest blocker has been the openstack environment..it has been giving me hickups with errors that are still open issues in the buglist so I decided to resetup as I look for plan bs to get through what am doing
16:49:41 <phionah> If you are familiar with an error such as : Exception raised: When using gi.repository you must not import static modules like "gobject".
16:49:54 <phionah> We can discuss this after...
16:50:05 <vkmc> oh
16:50:12 <vkmc> that was devstack?
16:50:22 <vkmc> or some other tool you are using for k8s development?
16:50:35 <celebdor> need to drop
16:50:39 <celebdor> thank you for the session
16:50:54 <vkmc> celebdor, thanks for joining!
16:50:57 <Suramya> thanks celebdor:
16:51:03 <phionah> Other than this: like suramya said..during the application process I think some inprovements need to made either by adding more mentors so that response time is faster for new people.
16:51:04 <maysamacedos> thanks celebdor!
16:51:05 <oikiki> bye celebdor!
16:51:29 <oikiki> i agree phionah: setup issues are really hard but i learned so much troubleshooting myself and i feel so much more confident when things break in my setup
16:51:29 <vkmc> very well
16:51:45 <phionah> Yes devstack
16:52:16 <phionah> yeah sure oikiki
16:52:52 <vkmc> phionah, devstack has been always painful for all newcomers... there has been some enhancements made, but still is quite hard
16:53:04 <vkmc> we should give it some love
16:53:17 <vkmc> and see how can we it make it better
16:53:33 <maysamacedos> hahah
16:53:34 <vkmc> ok so... last topic, really quickly
16:53:37 <maysamacedos> yes vkmc
16:53:38 <vkmc> because I want to cover this
16:53:51 <vkmc> #topic contributing to open source: next steps
16:53:58 <vkmc> suuuuper important
16:54:04 <vkmc> you know that the openstack summit is coming on may
16:54:20 <vkmc> it's going to be in Vancouver, May 21 to 24
16:54:23 <vkmc> three days of all openstack
16:54:29 <vkmc> developers, operators, users
16:54:49 <vkmc> and we want *you* to attend
16:55:01 <vkmc> so please, if you haven't already and you want to attend, apply for the travel support program
16:55:08 <mahatic_> yup, here's a very useful link that will help you attend - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Travel_Support_Program
16:55:11 <vkmc> #link https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/travelsupportvancouver
16:55:16 <vkmc> deadline is March 22nd
16:55:21 <vkmc> that is, next thursday
16:55:35 <phionah> Thanks for sharing
16:55:38 <maysamacedos> oh, I do want to attend
16:55:42 <maysamacedos> Thanks
16:55:44 <oikiki> me too!
16:55:44 <vkmc> if you cannot make it this time because you have stuff going on your life, there will be more events coming in the future
16:56:10 <vkmc> including next openstack project team gathering (which is more focused for devs) and the spring openstack summit in Berlin
16:56:23 <vkmc> but we want you to attend at least to one of those events
16:56:32 <vkmc> so you get to know the community and you get the real vibe of how we actually work :)
16:56:34 <Suramya> yes, me too! thanks vkmc: mahatic_ for sharing
16:56:44 <vkmc> please let us know if you need help on the application
16:56:51 <vkmc> someone asked me... if they could apply
16:56:53 <vkmc> yes, you can
16:57:00 <vkmc> and we expect you too
16:57:07 <mahatic_> very true and it's a good place to help find job opportunities
16:57:11 <oikiki> can i ask is the grant a reimbursement?
16:57:16 <oikiki> like we would book ourselves?
16:57:24 <oikiki> and submit receipts?
16:57:28 <vkmc> oikiki, no, the openstack foundation will take care of everything for you
16:57:28 <oikiki> or ..?
16:57:32 <oikiki> ahhhh nice!
16:57:36 <vkmc> they will book your flights and your hotel
16:57:38 <vkmc> :)
16:57:42 <oikiki> !!!!
16:57:43 <maysamacedos> great! :)
16:57:43 <openstack> oikiki: Error: "!!!" is not a valid command.
16:57:47 <mahatic_> :)
16:57:53 <vkmc> mahatic_, I want to highlight that... it's a very good place to find job opportunities
16:57:53 <Suramya> mahatic: ckmc i just had doubt with  visa
16:58:15 <vkmc> so get ready to impress (not that you need to... you are impressive as is)
16:58:25 <vkmc> Suramya, shoot
16:58:55 <oikiki> if we go, before the summit could we have a prep session? bc i want an openstack job! :D
16:59:10 <Suramya> *vkmc ..Should I apply for visa later after filling the TSP form as it asks for who will be sponsoring you kinds of questions?
16:59:17 <mahatic_> prep session for?
16:59:40 <oikiki> like what to expect, etc...
16:59:49 <oikiki> how to make the most of the summit
16:59:50 <oikiki> tips
16:59:55 <oikiki> nothing huge
17:00:03 <mahatic_> great, there's usually a session dedicated just for that
17:00:15 <oikiki> ah ok!
17:00:23 <mahatic_> "summit 101". vkmc do you know if that's still happening this time around?
17:00:33 <vkmc> mahatic_, AFAIK yes
17:00:37 <vkmc> the schedule is up
17:00:43 <phionah> vkmc, when is the openstack summit in Berlin? because I think I cant make it for the Vancouver one, I planned to attend kubecon Europe
17:01:18 <oikiki> oh wow phionah kubecon in copenhagen?
17:01:31 <phionah> yes
17:01:51 <vkmc> phionah, check out https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018
17:02:25 <vkmc> wait
17:02:27 <vkmc> wrong link
17:02:27 <vkmc> https://www.openstack.org/summit/
17:02:29 <vkmc> there :)
17:02:46 <phionah> Thanks
17:02:59 <vkmc> and yes, you can apply to that summit instead
17:03:14 <vkmc> remember you also have USD500 budget from Outreachy to attend to any other relevant conference
17:03:29 <mahatic_> yeah, good reminder
17:04:13 <vkmc> apart from the summit
17:04:42 <vkmc> we want to keep involved with the community
17:04:50 <vkmc> if you need help for that, let your mentors and us know
17:05:03 <vkmc> and we will try to help you
17:05:21 <phionah> Yes I think I would love to keep involved
17:05:30 <oikiki> me too!
17:05:39 <Suramya> Yes right!
17:05:41 <maysamacedos> Great, I also plan to keep involved
17:05:45 <oikiki> this internship even inspired me to start contributing the k8s as well
17:05:51 <vkmc> there are lots of job opportunities in openstack, and if you want to continue your career in openstack, we can help you positionate yourself
17:05:55 <maysamacedos> great oikiki
17:05:57 <maysamacedos> =D
17:06:12 <vkmc> that's very awesome... all of you :)
17:06:19 <vkmc> ah well, I think that's all I wanted to cover
17:06:36 <mahatic_> I think if you're interested in an OpenStack related job, it will really help if you hang around and keep continuing your contributions in whichever way possible and keeping in touch with the community
17:06:39 <vkmc> we are over time, but I want to give some time to open discussion
17:06:45 <vkmc> #topic open discussion
17:06:53 <vkmc> mahatic_, +1
17:07:10 <phionah> vkmc, how can I help others who dint go through outreachy to get involved? are mentors open to helping other people we may introduce to them?
17:07:30 <vkmc> phionah, you can always introduce them to the community
17:07:45 <oikiki> i plan to keep working on openstack for sure. and im definitely finishing my WIP.
17:07:49 <vkmc> with your knowledge, you can help people to start taking tasks and talking with other members in the community
17:08:04 <vkmc> if you have people that you want to refer to Outreachy/GSoC, do it as well
17:08:26 <oikiki> oh and i meant to add: i went to a linux conference this weekend and it was really cool to be working on openstack
17:08:33 <oikiki> bc they had a cloud and container track
17:08:38 <vkmc> oikiki, oh yes, probably they had ton of questions for you
17:08:40 <mahatic_> phionah: generally speaking yes, but I believe the 1:1 attention an intern gets won't be there. So the person needs to push themselves a little more and start to contributing
17:08:40 <oikiki> and i understood so much!
17:08:44 <vkmc> oikiki, which conference did you attend?
17:08:49 <oikiki> SCALE16x
17:08:53 <vkmc> oikiki, nice!
17:08:55 <vkmc> mahatic_, +1
17:09:15 <mahatic_> referring to Outreachy is also a good option like what vkmc said
17:09:27 <oikiki> vkmc: it was so great bc i felt like i was a part of the community :)
17:10:00 <phionah> okay, I think that is great..
17:10:17 <oikiki> and when i joined the k8s slack i saw dims and Suramya
17:10:29 <oikiki> and felt welcomed :)
17:11:09 <phionah> oikiki we can talk some sig-openstack tasks if you are interested.
17:11:16 <Suramya> :) yeah I tried there too will get back there again :)
17:11:28 <phionah> in k8s that is
17:11:30 <oikiki> ah thanks phionah - i will send you a message
17:11:37 <oikiki> :)
17:11:54 <phionah> there is much we can add to what is there and it is interesting
17:11:57 <oikiki> it's a lot less intimidating jumping into things since i had to do that with openstack
17:12:10 <vkmc> oikiki, +2000
17:12:11 <vkmc> :D
17:12:21 <Suramya> phionah: add me too :P
17:12:21 <oikiki> :)
17:12:42 <vkmc> all right, any other topic you want to bring up?
17:12:45 <phionah> sure..I think we shall talk there I guess:)
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17:13:40 <Suramya> :D
17:13:49 <vkmc> thanks everybody for attending with such short notice
17:13:49 <oikiki> :D :D
17:13:56 <vkmc> again, let us know if you need anything
17:13:58 <vkmc> we are here for you
17:14:01 <vkmc> #endmeeting