15:00:39 <TravT> #startmeeting openstack search
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15:00:47 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search'
15:00:50 <matt-borland> o/
15:01:06 <TravT> o/
15:01:12 <yingjun> o/
15:01:20 <lei-zh> o/
15:01:34 <rosmaita> o/
15:02:16 <TravT> give it one more min
15:02:18 <sjmc7> morning
15:02:36 <RickA-HP> o/
15:02:50 <TravT> Okay
15:02:56 <TravT> not too long of an agenda today
15:03:15 <TravT> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda
15:03:42 <TravT> #topic mascot
15:03:57 <TravT> I tallied all of the etherpad voting
15:04:10 <TravT> and submitted the firefly
15:04:19 <rosmaita> hopefully the mooning firefly?
15:04:29 <RickA-HP> Let the t-shirts and stickers begin!
15:04:50 <TravT> rosmaita: that much is out of our hands. :)
15:05:12 <rosmaita> i was surprised by all the negative votes on the anglerfish ... i guess trying to eat Nemo has given them all a bad name
15:05:24 <sjmc7> :)
15:05:52 <TravT> i saw that anglerfish also made the list of suggestion for infra voting
15:06:02 <TravT> but didn't win
15:06:09 <rosmaita> not a popular fish
15:06:23 <TravT> here is what the foundation marketing lady said
15:06:25 <TravT> I think a firefly is an awesome idea, and I’m speaking with the design team about ensuring it will look great. I also like the concept that fireflies are pervasive and flexible, which seems to extend on a searchlight. More to come!
15:06:54 <TravT> i guess i should have asked her if she liked that they mooned people
15:07:30 <rosmaita> i just like the thumbs-up over the shoulder look on that image i found
15:07:30 <TravT> ok
15:07:54 <TravT> yeah, maybe i'll forward it along to her
15:07:55 <rosmaita> but, i must admit, the searchlight mascot is not just for my amusement
15:08:17 <TravT> well, i'm not really sure what the mascot is for if not our amusement
15:08:37 <sjmc7> yes, it is a bit strnage
15:08:50 <rosmaita> no more midcycles, mascots instead
15:08:59 <TravT> let's take projects of a type
15:09:07 <TravT> give most of them an obscure name
15:09:14 <TravT> and now add an unrelated mascot
15:09:31 <TravT> o?
15:09:35 <rosmaita> from the obscure name standpoint, searchlight is the most transparent
15:09:41 <TravT> yeah, i know
15:09:46 <rosmaita> probably the best-named project in openstack
15:09:50 <TravT> but they didn't like using a searchlight for our mascot
15:10:06 <rosmaita> it would embarass the other projects
15:10:16 <TravT> "hey i know what that is!"
15:10:20 <sjmc7> an all angler fish lineup would’ve been fun
15:10:20 <TravT> "no fair"
15:10:45 <rosmaita> the glance mascot is going to be a chipmunk with its mouth full of nuts
15:11:08 <rosmaita> (i have no follow-up comment to that)
15:11:13 <TravT> ummm
15:11:20 <TravT> is that really it?
15:11:42 <rosmaita> yes, and specific instructions to the artist about the mouth full of nuts
15:12:04 <rosmaita> we will probably get into a dispute with disney
15:12:13 <TravT> this is why people around me wonder why i randomly laugh
15:12:14 <rosmaita> but they use openstack, don't they?
15:13:33 <TravT> well, given some people are giving up sleep for this, we should probably move on
15:13:48 <TravT> #topic rick aulino for core
15:13:56 <TravT> i sent out a message to the ML.
15:14:07 <TravT> if you can't stand rick, go out there and -1 him
15:14:23 <sjmc7> :)
15:14:27 <RickA-HP> :)
15:14:40 <RickA-HP> As a core do I get my own mascot?
15:14:45 <TravT> otherwise, i'll look to add him to the core list by monday morning
15:15:16 <rosmaita> RickA-HP: sure, but it must be an anglerfish
15:15:27 <RickA-HP> :)
15:15:52 <TravT> as a core, you get the joy of being able to be blamed for more things
15:16:32 <lei-zh> nuclear button?
15:16:42 <TravT> thankfully on this project there should be too much ire
15:17:11 <TravT> should -> shouldn't
15:17:31 <TravT> okay, moving on
15:17:49 <TravT> #topic Strategy for Nova specs for Ocata (rosmaita)
15:18:35 <rosmaita> i spoke with john garbutt (johnthetubaguy) former nova ptl about some of our specs that didnt' get newton love in nova
15:18:54 <rosmaita> asked him how we can push them along more effieciently
15:19:19 <rosmaita> so, the good news is that he says there is much interest in searchlight for nova cells v2
15:19:27 <rosmaita> so searchlight will be a hot topic
15:19:50 <rosmaita> but his other advice is more general
15:20:10 <rosmaita> make sure the topic of the spec is raised in nova meetings, at the midcycle, summit, etc
15:20:23 <rosmaita> also, there are nova subteams
15:20:32 <rosmaita> like for the notifications
15:20:44 <rosmaita> so for those, you talk directly to the subteam person
15:20:50 <sjmc7> yeah, we did, and we went to that subteam’s meetings
15:21:07 <TravT> i do feel somewhat to blame for some of this. i started going to some of their meetings after the summit, but stopped attending regularly because of so many activities.
15:21:21 <sjmc7> well, also we didn’t have much influence with it
15:21:30 <sjmc7> there was already a decided path for the most part
15:21:43 <TravT> i'll say that i also felt like it became clear a few weeks into it that they were only going to the base versioned notifications this release
15:21:47 <TravT> with no extra data
15:21:51 <rosmaita> sjmc7: that is the problem, we need a nova core to champion searchlight needs
15:22:00 <RickA-HP> When/how does Nova prioritize work for Ocata? Can we participate/influence there?
15:22:09 <rosmaita> they are starting now
15:22:14 <rosmaita> believe it or not
15:22:41 <RickA-HP> I believe it!
15:23:08 <rosmaita> so we probably need to resubmit the newton specs for ocata, and begin pushing them again
15:23:57 <TravT> yingjun, do you have links handy?
15:24:16 <TravT> the thing is, is that we had specs for adding a couple
15:24:17 <rosmaita> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321336/
15:24:30 <TravT> but we didn't actually submit one asking for all the data, i think
15:24:37 <TravT> on instances
15:24:43 <yingjun> thanks rosmaita, and this https://review.openstack.org/345714
15:25:41 <TravT> we really should submit something on that
15:26:18 <yingjun> the hypervisor one have a -2 from Matt, not sure when will it be removed
15:27:05 <TravT> the code right?
15:27:08 <TravT> not the spec
15:27:31 <yingjun> yes
15:27:56 <TravT> they'll usually remove that after the rc 1 release tag and branch are created, i think
15:29:10 <yingjun> okay
15:29:29 <TravT> brian thanks for the heads up...
15:29:47 <TravT> our nova lead messaged me last week about having some things to talk to me about
15:30:01 <TravT> but i was out
15:30:12 <TravT> i'll follow up with him today
15:30:12 <rosmaita> well, soon as they start needing us, we'll get better traction
15:30:49 <TravT> definitely
15:31:07 * rosmaita wonders if it is inappropriate to ask TravT for a health update
15:31:22 <TravT> sure...
15:31:38 <TravT> i'm doing better.
15:31:49 <TravT> still spending full day on couch with leg elevated.
15:32:07 <TravT> but am nearly off the worst of the pain meds
15:32:30 <rosmaita> wow, well best wishes
15:32:36 <TravT> maybe by next week it'll be just the over the counter stuff
15:33:18 <TravT> so, i'll reach out to our nova lead
15:33:35 <TravT> and at least one of us should go to some nova meetings next week
15:33:45 <TravT> i'll try.
15:34:27 <TravT> but maybe i can twist sjmc7's arm to also attend
15:34:41 <sjmc7> i can go
15:34:54 <TravT> thanks.
15:35:07 <TravT> rosmaita thanks for the heads up
15:35:20 <sjmc7> the flipside of this is how much we should get involved in projects we have dependencies on
15:35:52 <sjmc7> because it’s much easier to get a patch merged than it is to have someone else do it (obv aside from large-scale changes like versioned notifications)
15:36:08 <rosmaita> sjmc7: +1
15:36:23 <TravT> yes, we've not had much luck on the patches over in neutron and cinder
15:36:25 <sjmc7> the obvious problem is that the active development team on SL is already very small
15:36:27 <TravT> where it is somebody random
15:36:48 <sjmc7> but now we’re at a point were most of the foundations are laid, maybe that’s something to pursue
15:37:06 <rosmaita> i am trying to get some osic interest in searchlight, the nova interest associated with cells v2 will help that
15:37:07 <TravT> +1.  Thankful that yingjun has been active on the nova front
15:37:25 <rosmaita> though, i don't know that osic "interest" will translate into dev-power
15:37:42 <sjmc7> maybe just more awareness on its own would be useful
15:39:04 <TravT> anything more on this topic?
15:39:10 <rosmaita> not from me
15:39:29 <sjmc7> no. i guess we should prioritize what we need from other projects
15:39:49 <sjmc7> and focus more time working with them (and i think that’ll mostly be nova)
15:40:43 <yingjun> and by the way, i proposed a bp on kolla to support sl
15:41:12 <TravT> #topic open discussion
15:41:22 <TravT> yingjun that's great! do you have a link?
15:41:23 <RickA-HP> FYI, the requirements team has approved the update of the Elasticsearch python client. The ES client will now be 2.X based.
15:41:35 <yingjun> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/searchlight
15:41:37 <TravT> are you thinking of doing that work or did you just propose it?
15:42:10 <yingjun> what’s currently missing is that we don’t have debian/rpm for sl
15:42:42 <yingjun> me or someone from my team will do that:)
15:43:41 <yingjun> we have to install it from source for now
15:44:05 <TravT> do any other kolla projects do it from source?
15:44:35 <yingjun> they support both binary and source by default for other projects
15:45:09 <TravT> ok, cool
15:46:10 <TravT> should be a fun project to do that. :)
15:47:09 <TravT> any other items of interest?
15:47:40 <yingjun> no, nothing else from me
15:48:04 <TravT> okay. thanks everybody!
15:48:13 <RickA-HP> Bye.
15:48:19 <rosmaita> hasta la vista
15:48:34 <TravT> #endmeeting