15:13:53 <sjmc7> #startmeeting openstack search
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15:14:11 <sjmc7> Sorry I’m so late; got caught up in something
15:16:26 <sjmc7> Will give it a few minutes to see who’s about. The only news I really have is that we have the dubious distinction of being the first project to go into maintenance mode - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502849/
15:17:32 <sjmc7> Hopefully activity will pick up and we can reevaluate that, but for now it seems like a good call. Thanks to Brian for sorting that out
15:17:51 <lei-zh> \o
15:17:59 <lei-zh> sorry I'm late
15:18:13 <sjmc7> I was too :)
15:18:54 <lei-zh> I guess you are talking about maintenance mode
15:18:55 <jokke_> sjmc7: I'm happy that was option you guys decided to go for instead of letting the project being closed off
15:19:19 <sjmc7> yep lei-zh
15:19:25 <sjmc7> jokke_: yeah, me too. we’re actually using it internally a lot, and my hope is that we can pick back up again
15:19:48 <sjmc7> so many companies drastically scaled back their commitment to openstack that it hit us pretty hard
15:20:06 <jokke_> sjmc7: well we were discussing about searchlight with some people during the PTG and the reality is that the problem it's solving has not gone away
15:20:36 <sjmc7> yeah… one thing that we’ve found it really good for is for delpoyments with lots of regions
15:20:45 <jokke_> and there's stuff like Lifecycle Management that could utilize lots of the info you're already providing to improve those things
15:21:24 <jokke_> I can see that!
15:21:49 * jokke_ makes mental note to bring that pointer up
15:22:09 <sjmc7> yep. the project in the state it’s in works; i’m going to keep an eye on nova so we can hopefully move fully onto just consuming notifications, but i think it’s a good decision to make a note of projects with little activity so consumers aren’t deceived
15:22:33 <sjmc7> there’re still people who can work on it part time so we can fix bugs etc
15:23:02 <jokke_> yeah ... and that maintenance mode governance is there for good reason ... not everything needs to be in crazy full blast development all the time
15:23:22 <sjmc7> yeah. i’m honored we’re the first to use it (i think?)
15:24:07 <jokke_> as long as the health is monitored/taken care of that's brilliant if you're in the spot you can tell that "Hey, we're done(ish) we keep looking for security bugs and changes on our dependencies to keep the things that way)
15:24:51 <sjmc7> yeah. there’s stuff i’d like to have got to, but it’s hard if nobody’s being paid to do it :)
15:25:25 <jokke_> that was like Plan C or D for Glance earlier this year, fortunately we did not need to do it because the reasoning would have been "wrong"
15:25:52 <sjmc7> well, glance is one of the ‘too big to fail’ projects
15:26:14 <jokke_> and the interest might surface to do those things more when there is no demand or expectation of tight timelines and big changes every cycle
15:26:39 <sjmc7> so it is a different scenario. i think with the explosion of projects after the big tent change, there’ll be more that find themselves in our boat
15:26:54 <sjmc7> yep
15:27:53 <jokke_> well sorry to take over your meeting time. Just wanted to bring up that the situation did not go unnoticed ;)
15:28:51 <TravT> o/
15:28:57 <sjmc7> yeah, appreciate it, and sorry i couldn’t be at the PTG to fight our corner
15:29:08 <sjmc7> again, i really appreciate brian’s involvement
15:29:26 <TravT> +2
15:29:48 <sjmc7> hey. we were just wrapping up
15:30:07 <TravT> sorry, i got pulled into another meeting
15:31:22 <sjmc7> did anyone have any other topics they wanted to discuss?
15:34:05 <sjmc7> ok, in that case i guess i’ll end it here
15:34:16 <sjmc7> thanks everyone. thanks jokke_ for your interest!
15:36:46 <sjmc7> #endmeeting