17:00:58 <hyakuhei> #startmeeting openstack security group 17:00:59 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Oct 2 17:00:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:01 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:03 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' 17:01:08 <hyakuhei> We'll just let people filter in for a minute or two 17:01:14 <chair6> howdy 17:01:15 <nkinder> Hi all 17:01:19 <shohel02> hi 17:01:21 <bknudson> hi 17:01:23 <hyakuhei> Good morning chaps! 17:01:27 <tkelsey> hello all 17:01:31 <sicarie> hello 17:01:34 <hyakuhei> Evening tkelsey :) 17:02:07 <tkelsey> hyakuhei: evening 17:02:35 <hyakuhei> Ok great, we've probably got enough people to start building an agenda :) 17:02:48 <hyakuhei> * Things that need reviews 17:02:53 <hyakuhei> * Elections 17:03:00 <hyakuhei> * Threat Analysis 17:03:06 <hyakuhei> Others ? 17:04:03 <nkinder> that's probably a good start (lots of things fall into "things that need reviews") 17:04:15 <hyakuhei> Ok cool, lets start there. 17:04:24 <hyakuhei> #topic things that need review 17:04:35 <hyakuhei> nkinder: any outstanding OSSNs ? 17:04:48 <sicarie> 25 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117928/ 17:04:49 <nkinder> OSSN-0028 is really close - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124213/1 17:05:00 <nkinder> and 25 is the only other one out for review AFAIK 17:05:22 <nkinder> hyakuhei: 28 just had the "hypervisor host" -> "compute host" title change you mentioned 17:05:27 <hyakuhei> Great, can a few people take actions to reivew ? 17:05:31 <nkinder> hyakuhei: I think it's good to go otherwise 17:05:35 <hyakuhei> nkinder: I know thanks, it's got +2 from me :) 17:05:44 <tkelsey> +1 from me 17:05:51 <nkinder> I'll take a review of the latest version of 25 today 17:06:17 <nkinder> There are some other ones in the backlog that need to be picked up 17:07:02 <nkinder> There is also this, which is totally awesome - https://review.openstack.org/118139 17:07:09 <nkinder> gate tests for OSSNs 17:07:21 <tkelsey> ooo 17:07:29 <hyakuhei> That _IS_ exciting! 17:07:31 <nkinder> yeah, it will catch some of the stupid stuff 17:07:37 <sicarie> +1 17:08:03 <hyakuhei> Very nice, thanks nkinder 17:08:13 <nkinder> hyakuhei: if you're able to provide one more +2 there, I think we can get it approved 17:08:16 <tkelsey> awesome 17:08:26 <hyakuhei> Will review before I finish work today nkinder 17:08:36 <nkinder> great, thanks hyakuhei 17:08:51 <hyakuhei> As already said, 25 needs a review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117928/ volunteers? 17:08:52 <nkinder> I know there are some bandit changes out for review 17:08:57 <nkinder> hyakuhei: I'll review it 17:09:10 <rlpple> let me look at 25 17:09:20 <tkelsey> yeah, I did a bit of work on bandit, ill find links 17:09:50 <nkinder> tkelsey: I've skimmed over them, but need to take more time to play with the changes to feel comfortable voting on them 17:10:20 <tkelsey> bandit link 1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124039/ link 2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124058/ 17:10:25 <tkelsey> ah thanks nkinder 17:10:53 <tkelsey> those updates should be much cleaner than the last version tbh 17:10:59 <chair6> i'll take a look at them too 17:11:13 <tkelsey> cool thanks chair6 17:12:01 <hyakuhei> Any other things here that people want reviewing? 17:12:18 <hyakuhei> I reviewed the Threat Modelling docs from shohel02, did you want more reviews? 17:12:27 <shohel02> definately 17:12:36 <hyakuhei> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121034/ 17:12:39 <shohel02> uploaded a new patch 17:12:49 <shohel02> based on reviews from anne and you 17:13:53 <shohel02> should we include some people other than security folks... what they think .. 17:14:00 <nkinder> shohel02: I'll review it in the next few days 17:14:00 <shohel02> is it a workable approach 17:14:23 <hyakuhei> ok cool, I think it is but it remains very resource intensive. 17:15:12 <shohel02> hmm.. currently i am doing historical security bugs published in Launchpad 17:15:45 <shohel02> and try to find a correaltion for future possiblities 17:16:19 <shohel02> but thats a side trac 17:16:32 <nkinder> shohel02: OSSA bugs, or anything with SecurityImpact? 17:16:42 <shohel02> anything with security impact 17:17:02 <nkinder> that's a big list :) 17:17:14 <shohel02> yes... i am searching with security tag 17:17:42 <shohel02> but i see other bugs which has not mention security tag... some times has security impact 17:17:55 <nkinder> shohel02: yes, it's not used consistently 17:19:16 <hyakuhei> Coverage could certainly be better that's for sure. 17:19:19 <tkelsey> shohel02: how are you searching for SecurityImpact? 17:19:29 <shohel02> launchpad tag 17:19:36 <tkelsey> ah ok 17:21:26 <hyakuhei> Ok, anything else need/want reviewing? 17:22:11 <hyakuhei> I've put something in the 'other projects' summit proposals for OSSG 17:22:14 <hyakuhei> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-other-projects 17:22:24 <hyakuhei> Bandit could well be there 17:22:36 <hyakuhei> or possibly in 'Cross-project' workshops 17:22:52 <hyakuhei> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics 17:24:05 <bknudson> design summit discussions are most successful when there's a problem to discuss and get agreement on 17:24:19 <bknudson> so one example I would give is -- how do we want to handle bandit? 17:24:34 <hyakuhei> Makes sense. 17:24:49 <bknudson> you've got the other projects there so you can get some buy in as to whether they want to submit to failing gate because of bandit checks 17:25:05 <nkinder> Yes, I'd like to take the "goals" approach we talked about on the keystone meeting this week 17:25:34 <nkinder> So it might be good to cover security gate testing in general, with a few goals... 17:25:55 <nkinder> 1) static analysis checking in the gate with bandit 17:26:06 <hyakuhei> Makes sense, chair6 - nkinder want me to look into that or would you like to throw something on the wiki? 17:26:07 <nkinder> 2) ssl gate testing 17:26:15 <nkinder> hyakuhei: I can update it 17:26:27 <hyakuhei> Cool 17:26:51 <nkinder> someone on my team is working on proposing ssl gate testing now that the support for it merged in devstack 17:27:05 <nkinder> we could combine those two items into a single session I think 17:28:17 <hyakuhei> That sounds good 17:28:36 <hyakuhei> Great, next topic then ? 17:29:38 <hyakuhei> #topic Elections 17:30:08 <hyakuhei> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/OSSG_Lead_Election_Fall_2014 17:30:40 <hyakuhei> ^ We're going to have elections, to do that we need an election official - someone who isn't going to run for leadership 17:31:14 <hyakuhei> I've decided to open the candidacy today so we've got reasonable time to get everything done 17:31:54 <hyakuhei> Any volunteers to be officials ? Basically you check that when people announce for candidacy they meet the requirements and everything is above board 17:31:55 <tkelsey> hyakuhei: maybe worth giving info on whats involved with being an official 17:32:00 <hyakuhei> ^ 17:32:11 <rlpple> Please. 17:32:38 <hyakuhei> One official will be responsible for administering the vote, bdpayne did it last time 17:33:09 <hyakuhei> We don't have to get volunteers here, it can go out to email 17:33:33 <hyakuhei> I'll add some content to the wiki page re: the roles of officials 17:34:29 <hyakuhei> So everyone have a think about if you'd like to take a shot at leading the group, think about what you'd focus on, how you'd shape the community etc and when ready announce your candidacy as described on the wiki :) 17:34:44 <nkinder> hyakuhei: we basically need at least one official soon, as candidates might start announcing their intent to run 17:34:53 <hyakuhei> An official will reply-all confirming your eligability or contact you directly to work out any issues 17:35:28 <hyakuhei> nkinder: Yes, but as the vote isn't for two weeks we can accept some latency between candidacy emails and confirmation 17:35:59 <hyakuhei> Though it's unlikely that anyone not meeting the candicy rules would just pop in and nominate themselves anyway 17:37:54 <hyakuhei> ok, so I guess that covers it for now, I'll reach out to bdpayne who invented the process and ask him if there's anything else he'd like to see from officials before I send around an email covering the detail. 17:38:57 <hyakuhei> Great. shohel02 was there anything else to run through regarding Threat Modelling today? 17:39:15 <shohel02> No 17:39:33 <shohel02> i think we covered most important aspects 17:39:57 <hyakuhei> ok great 17:40:03 <hyakuhei> #topic any other business 17:40:13 <hyakuhei> As above guy, anything else you'd like to talk about or discuss? 17:40:37 <nkinder> Nothing more from me today 17:41:06 <hyakuhei> ok well I guess we can wrap early then :) 17:41:24 <hyakuhei> Have a good week guys, I'll email around re: Elections soon. 17:41:26 <shohel02> :) 17:41:30 <tkelsey> efficient meeting :) 17:41:30 <nkinder> thanks! 17:41:34 <bknudson> we all going to the summit? 17:41:38 <bknudson> I'll be attending 17:41:40 <nkinder> I;ll be there 17:41:47 <hyakuhei> Of course :) 17:41:49 <shohel02> y 17:42:05 <hyakuhei> It'd be my pleasure to take you guys out for food again. 17:42:23 <hyakuhei> Not sure the food in paris will be up to the quality of atlanta but we can try... 17:42:34 <hyakuhei> oh hai bdpayne 17:42:40 <nkinder> we should try to set up a lunch to get everyone together for some "off" time 17:42:41 <bknudson> I'm worried about the uncooked hamburgers... 17:42:49 <hyakuhei> nkinder: definitely 17:42:59 <hyakuhei> bknudson: you mean uncremated - you'll be fine :) 17:43:22 <hyakuhei> I was hoping bdpayne had swooped in to tell us all about being an election officila but alas, he's afk 17:43:38 <bdpayne> hey guys 17:43:40 <bdpayne> am I late? ;-) 17:43:44 <bdpayne> ? 17:43:47 <rlpple> right on time 17:43:51 * bdpayne must have missed something 17:43:52 <rlpple> congratulations 17:44:05 <hyakuhei> whooop 17:44:50 <hyakuhei> So I was just asking about potential election officials re: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/OSSG_Lead_Election_Fall_2014 bdpayne 17:45:17 <bdpayne> ahh 17:45:27 <bdpayne> I'm happy to do that 17:45:37 <hyakuhei> Well that sorted itself out nicely :) 17:45:49 <bdpayne> I'd also be happy to have a deputy :-) 17:45:57 <hyakuhei> Do you think you could put one-two sentances on the wiki page regarding the role and responsibilities? 17:46:03 <bdpayne> sure 17:46:07 <hyakuhei> ty :D 17:46:21 <bdpayne> wait 17:46:28 <bdpayne> role and resp for the OSSG lead or ? 17:46:37 <hyakuhei> No just for the election officials 17:46:41 <bdpayne> ah, ok 17:46:42 <bdpayne> sure 17:47:01 <hyakuhei> Awesome thanks! 17:47:19 <hyakuhei> We were just about to wrap when you joined bdpayne - is there anything you'd like to cover? 17:47:24 <shohel02> bdpayne: i can volunteer as a deputy 17:47:48 <bdpayne> shohel02 ok thanks, I'll be in touch 17:47:54 <bdpayne> I don't have anything to cover 17:48:02 <bdpayne> carry on :-) 17:48:15 <hyakuhei> cool, well then I guess that's a wrap - thanks all! 17:48:24 <tkelsey> thanks everyone 17:48:31 <hyakuhei> #endmeeting