08:05:45 #startmeeting openstack-storlets 08:05:46 Meeting started Tue Nov 22 08:05:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kota_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:05:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 08:05:49 The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_storlets' 08:06:09 k, let get started 08:06:23 It seems that eranrom already created agenda for today's meeting https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Storlets 08:06:37 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Storlets 08:07:04 the first item looks about PTG 08:07:23 kota_: yes 08:07:28 i think eranrom has been working to propose the slots to discuss in the PTG 08:07:55 and unfortunately, it cannot make in Mon-Tue but Wed-Fri. 08:08:06 so completely over the Swift PTG. 08:08:10 it seems that we need to be allocated from Wed-Fri, because we are currently proposing storlets vertical (not cross-project horizonal) session 08:08:29 yeah, not cross-project 08:08:37 is there any schedule already available now? 08:09:17 I'm feeling it's a bug of ptg, if we consider to work a couple of projects, the schedule constraint completely make us bad to work for both. 08:09:44 kota_: yes 08:09:46 takashi_: i don't think so 08:09:54 just... 08:10:06 it seems we can not find any more detailed information... :-( http://www.openstack.org/ptg 08:10:22 we can see the project names which are available to attend in ptg 08:11:01 anyway, eranrom is asking a couple of ways we can make the storlets slots 08:11:31 A. in parallel with swift or B making a place for storlets in the Swift ptg 08:12:02 how do you think of? 08:12:17 kota_: IMO, to avoid schedule collision against swift schedule, which may be a big problem for us,B makes sense 08:12:44 eranrom: hi 08:12:45 hi, eranrom 08:12:48 eranrom: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. 08:12:53 hi 08:13:00 eranrom: it is already started! 08:13:03 Hi, Sorry I am late 08:13:08 no worries 08:13:14 eranrom: np :-) 08:13:24 Thanks for starting 08:13:27 oh, do I have to set the meeting name as storlets? I did openstack-storlets 08:13:45 That's fine. 08:13:49 kk 08:14:05 eranrom: we are following your agenda, and just talking about ptg stuffs 08:14:18 cool. 08:15:04 Looking for the logs... 08:15:34 takashi: i'm with you, at the this time, we could manage our spaces into swift ptg rather than locate different spaces 08:15:58 takashi: because it could make difficult to work together with swifters 08:18:33 kota_: yes. I'd like to ask eranrom's opinion, but it seems better to me to ask notmyname to allow us to allocate storlets session in swift session timeframe. 08:18:39 to work with swift community 08:18:39 and i think, Swift ptg will work as well as past design summit (or mid-cycle) so we can manage our time to discuss storlets in the swift slots 08:19:08 kota_: just thinking the same thing 08:19:46 or I'm wondering if we could place concatenated room for such collaborate prjects :/ 08:19:58 sure 08:20:17 Originally, I also thought that we should work with Swift this time, however, acoles told me that given the shorter period of PTG compared to the previous mid cycle 08:20:25 3 days instead of 5 08:20:30 Its going to be very busy 08:20:59 I can ask John though 08:21:08 eranrom: exactly 08:21:54 or if we could make *un-official* slots in Mon-Tue? 08:22:17 tc may not want to do that though :/ 08:22:17 You mean just be there, and look for a room. 08:22:24 Sounds lije a good idea to me. 08:22:25 eranrom: sure 08:22:26 like 08:23:07 for this time, I'm going to be in the whole week there. 08:23:21 kota_: same for me 08:23:26 I guess we need to choose between two non optimal choices: 08:23:30 and probably not so busy in Mon-Tue. 08:23:39 1. Do this Mon/Tue unofficially. 08:23:59 2. Do this Wed-Fri where both you and Takashi are very busy with other projects 08:24:16 Seems to me that option 1 is better. What do you think? 08:24:46 We may not be allocated with a room, but I believe we can manage 08:25:19 1 seems ok. And try 2 if we have to consider about swift upstream. 08:26:00 and 3. make a feedback '' 08:26:31 kota_: In 2, Do you mean if we have storlet related issues that are related to Swift? 08:26:32 to enable to attend more than one projects 08:26:42 eranrom: yes 08:27:12 talking about my situation, I have some topics in nova and cinder, which I should join discussion about. 08:27:29 in Wed-Fri? 08:27:34 takashi_:^^ 08:27:39 kota_: maybe 08:27:47 takashi_: Does this mean that you are also in favor of option 1? 08:27:55 ok, so 1 seems to work well at this time. 08:28:18 so if we have session in Wed-Fri, it is difficult to fix the timeframe when we have room, because there are no available schedule about nova and cinder 08:29:07 so if we have Wed-Fri, it works better for me to let us allocate in swift session, which is expected to have relatively long timeframe, 08:29:48 because we can choose the meeting schedule ad-hocly, based on the chaning situation. 08:30:07 but I don't have any big topics in Mon-Tue, so still 1 works fine for me 08:30:25 s/chaning/changing/ 08:30:59 ok, so lets make it Mon-Tue unofficial (perhaps we need only one day) and then come with feedback 08:31:42 There is one more thing I forgot to mention (which may not be relevant given that we chose the unofficial 'path') and that is 08:31:53 Weneed to be official so that we can get allocated room 08:32:22 I was told that rooms are being kept for us (Wed-Fri) under the assumption that we will be official by Feb. 08:32:33 I do not see a reason why that would not happen 08:33:31 yea 08:34:00 anything else on this topic? 08:35:05 eranrom: just a little. maybe there are not so many things already decided about ptg scheduling. 08:36:01 eranrom: so another possible option is that we basically ask rooms for ptg, and then discuss about the desired schedule, which works well for us, with tc, ptls(john) or other foundation members 08:37:46 takashi_: I have asked ttx if we could have rooms Mon/Tue. He replied that he is keeping rooms for us (assuming we get official by Feb.), but these would be only Wed-Fri 08:38:46 eranrom: do we have a room for all Wed-Fri? or have a room for limited timeframe in Wed-Fri. 08:38:56 ? 08:39:15 takashi_: My understanding is that its for all Wed-Fri 08:39:35 I can validate this. 08:40:00 Does this make you think that option 2 is better? 08:41:24 eranrom: will think a little more later. Can I ask you to available time long, currently expected? 08:41:45 because we have another big items around installation/packaging work... 08:42:11 ok, we can continue this afterwards in #openstack-storlets 08:42:13 I mean, I'd like to confirm that they are really proposing whole Wed-Fri 08:42:19 eranrom: yes 08:42:21 takashi_: will do. 08:42:41 eranrom: thx 08:42:42 topic: installation/packaging work 08:42:47 #topic: installation/packaging work 08:42:58 #topic installation/packaging work 08:43:00 I suppose that kota_ should do that 08:43:05 :-) right 08:43:09 #topic: installation/packaging work 08:43:10 because he started this meeting 08:43:14 Thanks! :-) 08:43:18 sure 08:43:31 i didn't know the rule though 08:44:08 kota_: no worries, it just makes it easier to browse the logs afterwards 08:44:26 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370332/ 08:44:37 takashi_: Do you want to take over? 08:45:01 takashi_: ? 08:45:12 so currently I finally make package patch pass gate job, making it dependent on eranrom's devstack patch 08:45:29 yeah, that's awesome 08:45:45 +1! 08:46:24 I'd like to discuss about two things today 08:46:37 1) Is there anything remaining about devstack patch? 08:46:56 2) What should be done before merging packaging patch 08:47:23 for 1, basically I'd like to ask kota_'s opinion 08:47:35 i think 1 is for eranrome? 08:47:52 i'm seeing eranrom has updated the devstack patch. 08:48:02 Right. For 1, I have uploaded a new patch yesterday, addressing some of Kota's remarks. 08:48:38 Its ok from Jenkins P.O.V. but I still need to tests the 'dev' flavour. 08:48:54 After validating this, I would be happy to get that merged. 08:49:15 k, and in parallel, I will review again the changes. 08:49:15 eranrom: so you mean that it is better to wait for your testing, right? 08:49:24 maybe in Thu or Fri in this week. 08:49:34 right, I will do so today, and ping you once done 08:49:45 thx eranrom 08:49:54 eranrom: thanks. I'll review again, and test by myself, if possible 08:50:29 takashi_: kota_: great, thanks. Let me ping you before you review / test as I might need an additional patch for that, 08:50:48 that is an updated patch 08:50:58 eranrom: After you fix you patch, I'll rebase my patch on your update. I think it does not require so much effort 08:51:05 for item 2, i think my concerns can be almostly in follow-up 08:51:21 kota_: ok 08:51:38 but still only item i'd like to make further work is 'describing how we can install/deploy in the new package' 08:52:10 takashi_: you had written already some notes in commit message 08:52:29 but still not describe concretely that yet, right? 08:52:39 kota_: you are right 08:52:46 I'm recently getting how it works via reviewing 08:52:59 maybe, in the new package, we need a couple of commands 08:53:07 do ./install_lib.sh 08:53:16 and do python setup.py install 08:53:23 kota_: yes 08:53:47 that seems awesomely progressed rather than ansible script. How easy to deply!!! 08:53:57 but I'd like to add the docs for anyone. 08:54:24 hopefully, I'd like to make it into one script but that can be in follow up 08:54:44 takashi_: does it make you sense? 08:55:00 kota_: yes, but some thoughts from my side 08:55:32 talking about doc, currently we have manual installation guide, which follows all procedure executed by ansible. 08:56:09 and I don't know whether we should keep current thing, considering current discussion for splitting ansible script 08:57:00 The other thing is that for python package, which I think storlets should be designed as, I think we do not wrap 'python setup.py'. 08:57:31 but all things can be discussed in follow-up, if you are ok about them. just recording my thought 08:58:03 s/do/should/g 08:58:04 I think we need to wrap up. Do you want to move to #openstack-storlets? 08:58:32 eranrom: yes, though I don't have so long time 08:58:33 for the first item, we could say 1. installation 2.deploy whole parts including swift as different clearly. IMO 08:58:46 yeah, we should move 08:58:58 #endmeeting openstack-storlests