09:00:00 <ildikov> #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute 09:00:01 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Oct 3 09:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 09:00:02 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 09:00:04 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_upstream_institute' 09:01:26 <gmann> ildikov: hi 09:01:37 <ildikov> gmann: hi :) 09:01:49 <kmARC> o/ 09:02:01 <ildikov> sorry we had a few meetings cancelled lately 09:02:49 <ildikov> we can also use a ping list if we feel that useful 09:03:20 <ildikov> either add your nick to the agenda etherpad or let me know and I will create one :) 09:03:29 <gmann> yea, i always forgot. ping is useful reminder 09:03:31 <ildikov> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings 09:03:46 <ildikov> gmann: ok, noted, thanks :) 09:03:54 <ildikov> ok, let's start 09:04:02 <ildikov> #topic Announcements 09:04:14 <ildikov> We had OpenStack Days UK last week 09:04:34 <ildikov> It was a one day long event so we held Office Hours there as opposed to a full training 09:04:48 <ildikov> we had a few people popping by with questions 09:05:27 <ildikov> we didn't get a big crowd, but those who came got pointers and the help they needed, so overall I think it was successful 09:05:43 <gmann> nice. any interesting thing people were asking and we should work more on 09:06:21 <ildikov> hmm, I think we have good coverage 09:06:36 <ildikov> we were also advertising the VM image 09:06:49 <ildikov> so if that's in good shape we should be alright 09:07:12 <ildikov> another thing I hope will fall into place soon is the Contributor Portal 09:08:00 <ildikov> I think it would be beneficial to use that as the source for the material as lectures and have the training web containing the exercises and best practices we want to share on top 09:08:54 <gmann> +1 09:09:16 <ildikov> we have two more events this year 09:09:32 <ildikov> #topic Upcoming events 09:09:45 <ildikov> One just before OpenStack Days Nordic 09:09:53 <ildikov> It's a one day long version 09:10:05 <ildikov> and the regular training before the Sydney Summit 09:10:49 <ildikov> please sign up if you haven't done that yet on the wiki 09:10:53 <ildikov> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Institute_Occasions 09:11:29 <gmann> ildikov: what all TODO required for Sydney Summit ? so that we all can start working on those based on amount 09:12:10 <ildikov> gmann: I need to look into how many people registered and we also need to figure out who can come and help out on site 09:12:20 <ildikov> gmann: so we are all prepared 09:12:49 <ildikov> gmann: I would say we need to pick presenters for the sections and be more prepared for the exercises part 09:13:24 <ildikov> gmann: I think the exercises are where we fell short mainly the last time 09:13:57 <ildikov> and we could also think about how to make the deep dives more digestible and helpful to people 09:14:06 <gmann> ok, 09:14:17 <ildikov> like doing a little survey at the beginning on what people expect from the training 09:14:31 <ildikov> without losing too much time on that one 09:14:40 <ildikov> we also need to test the latest VM image 09:15:01 <ildikov> kmARC: is the image up on tarballs.o.o? 09:15:12 <ildikov> kmARC: or that's still a TODO? 09:15:17 <kmARC> still TODO 09:15:35 <kmARC> sorry, I didn't have any progress on this 09:16:05 <ildikov> do you have a built image uploaded somewhere or we need to play with the scripts if we want to test? 09:16:13 <ildikov> also do you need any help? 09:18:55 <ildikov> kmARC: ^^ 09:19:23 <kmARC> I have a fresh build, but didn't upload yet. 09:19:51 <ildikov> kmARC: ok, that sounds like a good start 09:19:56 <kmARC> Let me create the freshest fresh now and when it's uploaded I'll ping all of us on the #upstream-institute 09:20:16 <ildikov> kmARC: sounds great 09:20:55 <ildikov> kmARC: I don't think we will extensively use the image in Copenhagen, but it would be great to have it available by then to point people there who are interested 09:21:08 <ildikov> and have them download it and play with it 09:21:25 <kmARC> yeah I don't think so either, but I was also focusing on jsut to give them so that they can play around at home 09:21:32 <ildikov> we have two more weeks before that one 09:22:09 <ildikov> yeah, for anyone who's interested in playing with it we will try to ensure they have the image and it's running 09:23:51 <ildikov> kmARC: if the image is uploaded we can send a mail to the ML so people can test it 09:24:10 <kmARC> Sounds good 👍 09:24:12 <ildikov> kmARC: and we can also point the infra guys there to have it on tarballs.o.o 09:24:24 <kmARC> sure. After testing! ;-) 09:24:42 <ildikov> of course :) 09:25:09 <ildikov> kmARC: thanks for all the efforts on this! 09:26:58 <ildikov> anything else on upcoming events? 09:27:11 <kmARC> Well, I still need to ramp up for Copenhagen 09:27:31 <kmARC> I arrive Tue afternoon, maybe we can have a quick meeting in the evening? 09:28:07 <ildikov> kmARC: we get in around 6pm with Kendall 09:28:44 <kmARC> perfect. I guess you also wanna grab a dinner or something? 09:28:59 <ildikov> kmARC: let's keep in touch, I hope we will get to the hotel quick enough so we could have a dinner or something if everything goes well with the flight 09:30:10 <mrmartin> Hi 09:30:21 <ildikov> kmARC: let's plan with meeting on Tuesday, we can figure out offline when and where 09:30:25 <ildikov> mrmartin: hi :) 09:30:43 <mrmartin> I'm going to help as well. 09:31:14 <ildikov> mrmartin: in Copenhagen or Sydney or both? 09:31:29 <mrmartin> Both 09:31:41 <ildikov> mrmartin: awesome, thank you! 09:31:59 <ildikov> mrmartin: please sign up on the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Institute_Occasions 09:33:52 <ildikov> mrmartin: kmARC: we are doing some tagging activity for the material right now 09:34:24 <kmARC> Yeah I am aware of that 09:34:31 <ildikov> mrmartin: kmARC: we have more the coverage for job roles, but we should have the 'basics' or something like tag too before Copenhagen 09:34:50 <ildikov> to have our minds around how to make the thing shorter 09:35:17 <ildikov> #topic Check out the new tags on the web page 09:35:32 <ildikov> #link https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/upstream-training-content.html 09:35:53 <ianychoi> hi all sorrybfor late 09:36:01 <ildikov> in case someone's not aware we have our content tagged 09:36:11 <ildikov> not finished yet, but it's in good shape 09:36:18 <ildikov> we have one open review right now 09:36:28 <ildikov> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508587/ 09:36:38 <ildikov> ianychoi: no worries, thanks for joining :) 09:37:01 <ianychoi> ildikov, :) 09:37:36 <ianychoi> I will see the review ^ 09:38:04 <ildikov> so we should focus on helping those who are looking for the basics only and have a tag for that 09:38:27 <ildikov> with keeping in mind that we are having shorter trainings as well sometimes 09:39:05 <ildikov> are there any questions with the tags? 09:39:38 <ianychoi> Nope. I think tagging is so nice jdea 09:40:19 <ildikov> ianychoi: sounds good, thanks :) 09:40:30 <ildikov> #topic Open discussion 09:40:38 <ildikov> ianychoi: are you coming to Sydney? 09:41:42 <ianychoi> ildikov, I really want to but unfortunately I have to go to Oslo for business trip during that period.. 09:41:57 <ildikov> ianychoi: that's bad news :( 09:42:48 <ildikov> ianychoi: you should tell them to come to Sydney too ;) 09:43:55 <ianychoi> ildikov, really sorry for that news. I want to see u again all 09:44:46 <ildikov> ianychoi: same here, I hoped we can have the team together again! 09:45:29 <ildikov> ianychoi: anyway, I hope your trip will be all good and we will have the crew together for Vancouver :) 09:45:49 <ildikov> I don't have more topics for today 09:46:05 <ildikov> we have some TODO's 09:46:18 <ildikov> getting the VM image tested and then uploaded to tarballs.o.o 09:46:33 <ildikov> have the tags in place before Copenhagen 09:46:36 <ianychoi> ildikov, thanks a lot for your kind saying :) 09:46:45 <ildikov> and go through the exercises and prep for Syndey 09:47:23 <ildikov> ianychoi: :) 09:47:37 <ildikov> is there any other topic from anyone? 09:50:04 <ildikov> ok, it sounds like a no :) 09:50:11 <ianychoi> Translation ratio is getting less since we have some changes and so there has been new source English strings. 09:50:32 <ianychoi> I would like to share this to I18n team soom 09:50:36 <ildikov> ianychoi: I was mentioning the training material to people 09:50:42 <ianychoi> s/soom/soon 09:50:59 <ildikov> I hope we can get someone from China to help out for instance 09:51:11 <ildikov> I will get around that on the Forum in Sydney 09:51:18 <ianychoi> ildikov, also I have been emphasizing upstream Institute to Korean government. 09:51:30 <ildikov> we are supposed to have a session on how to make on boarding easier to people 09:51:41 <ildikov> ianychoi: oh nice! 09:51:47 <ianychoi> ildikov, :) 09:51:51 <ildikov> ianychoi: how did it go? 09:52:38 <ianychoi> ildikov, Nice conversation and I want to have upcoming upstream institute supported by Korean government 09:52:56 <ildikov> ianychoi: that would be great! 09:53:19 <ildikov> ianychoi: is there any way to support this effort? 09:53:48 <ianychoi> ildikov, also I am not sure, but it would be so great if upstream institute will be more mixed with project onboarding rooms in Sydnet Summit 09:53:58 <ianychoi> s/Sydnet/Sydney 09:54:21 <ildikov> ianychoi: we are trying to connect the two, the intention is definitely there 09:54:34 <ianychoi> ildikov, I will more happily discuss with Korean gov. 09:54:50 <ianychoi> ildikov, +1! 09:55:02 <ildikov> ianychoi: we also need to keep in mind that the on boarding rooms have to be standalone as well for people who wonder into those first without attending the training 09:55:25 <ianychoi> ildikov, okay - agreed 09:56:11 <ildikov> ianychoi: we started to sync with a few people in Boston to have the deep dive exercises and material organized in the way to be able to give further info for people who attend both 09:56:43 <ildikov> ianychoi: we definitely have more work to do on that front 09:57:09 <ildikov> ianychoi: I hope the Contributor Portal will help with this too, but that's a longer term story 09:58:12 <ianychoi> ildikov, thanks a lot for kind sharing. Although I am getting more busy, I agree that encouraging more involvement is so a good way and I want to more align with the direction 09:58:43 <gmann> ildikov: onboard sessions are good referral from training. i got 1 member back in mentorship things who met in boston summit. long back but good to have people back and showing interest. 09:58:48 <ildikov> ianychoi: I hope you can still stay with the team! :) 09:59:01 <ildikov> gmann: +1 09:59:12 <ianychoi> Hope to have also successful Nordic upstream :) 09:59:32 <ildikov> gmann: it's always good to have people back, I completely agree 09:59:37 <ildikov> ianychoi: thanks :) 10:00:03 <ildikov> gmann: if you have any suggestions about how to connect these two more we can chat about that on the channel 10:00:12 <ildikov> our time is up for today here 10:00:21 <ildikov> thanks everyone for attending the meeting! 10:00:22 <gmann> ildikov: sure, ll let you know 10:00:27 <gmann> thank ildikov 10:00:39 <ildikov> see you on the channel until the next one! :) 10:00:44 <ildikov> #endmeeting