20:00:08 <ildikov> #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute
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20:02:19 <jungleboyj> @!
20:02:19 <_pewp_> jungleboyj ( ･ω･)ﾉ
20:02:46 <spotz> \o/
20:03:24 <ildikov> hi :)
20:03:57 <ildikov> let's see who else I can hunt down for a quick meeting :)
20:05:14 <ildikov> ok let's start
20:05:19 <ildikov> #topic Announcements
20:05:49 <ildikov> we had Upstream Institute office hours during OpenStack Days UK two weeks ago
20:05:57 <ildikov> it went well overall
20:06:07 <jungleboyj> Good.
20:06:29 <ildikov> we didn't have a huge crowd, but those who came had questions and were interested in either learning more about OpenStack and/or contributing
20:06:42 <ildikov> so I think it was overall successful
20:07:12 <spotz> Cool
20:07:13 <ildikov> I mentioned that tagging process last week, but I think both of you are well aware of that
20:07:56 <jungleboyj> Yep.
20:08:08 <ildikov> ok, let's move on then
20:08:10 <ildikov> #topic Upcoming events
20:08:26 <ildikov> we have a one day long training in Copenhagen next week
20:08:52 <ildikov> if you know anyone in the area who would like to come and help out please point them to the wiki and diablo_rojo and me :)
20:09:10 <ildikov> and we have the regular training in Sydney
20:09:39 <jungleboyj> :-)
20:09:44 <jungleboyj> Looking forward to that.
20:09:46 <spotz> *pokes jungleboyj* Go sign up
20:10:02 <ildikov> just wanted to say that please sign up here:
20:10:05 <ildikov> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Institute_Occasions
20:10:14 <ildikov> so we have an idea on who's coming :)
20:10:29 <ildikov> we don't have a ton of registrations as of yet
20:10:39 <jungleboyj> Oh, I thought I had.  Doing that now.
20:10:41 <diablo_rojo> ildikov, how many?
20:11:09 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: 18
20:11:41 <ildikov> we're trying to reach out to locals and also students
20:11:53 <ildikov> I hope it will bring up the numbers a little
20:12:33 <diablo_rojo> Maybe we should send something to the ML telling people to communicate to their companies that this is a good opportunity for people to get started?
20:13:32 <spotz> and figure some one show up
20:13:33 <jungleboyj> More communication never hurts.
20:13:44 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, +1
20:13:57 <ildikov> well, that's an option, I don't think it will help that much though, especially that we're pretty close now
20:14:02 <diablo_rojo> We should also emphasize the dates.
20:14:15 <diablo_rojo> Maybe we can get Anne to do some tweets about it?
20:14:30 * diablo_rojo hasn't seen any yet but may be missing them if there have been
20:14:35 <ildikov> yep, dates are important, there are always people, who get confused
20:14:43 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: I asked her last week
20:14:45 <spotz> I saw outreachy, I need to tweet git and gerrit too
20:15:05 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: also Sonia to reach out to locals, will ask again
20:16:39 <diablo_rojo> ildikov, oh nice, maybe they just haven't started yet. And cool, hopefully Sonia can drum up some interest too.
20:16:50 <ildikov> also if any of you feel like Tweeting about the upcoming occasions, etc please do so! :)
20:17:27 <spotz> WIll do ildikov
20:17:34 <ildikov> spotz: thanks!
20:17:53 <diablo_rojo> I will retweet when I see them :)
20:17:58 <spotz> hehehe
20:18:02 <ildikov> ok, I think we can move on
20:18:09 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: I'm good at that too :)
20:18:15 <ildikov> #topic Prep for Sydney
20:18:27 <spotz> I still owe the woo list an email so need to do that tonight first
20:18:40 <ildikov> so we should go through the material and see what needs to get cleaned up
20:18:53 <ildikov> spotz: don't get me started on mails ;)
20:19:15 <spotz> ildikov: Has a complete run been done since Boston, or only a tagged version?
20:19:24 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Yeah, I have a todo to get the OpenStack Status and Zuul stuff reworked.  Haven't forgotten.
20:19:27 <ildikov> we are getting close to have the first version of the Contributor Portal up, but that's not a target for Sydney
20:19:41 * smcginnis sneaks in very late
20:19:41 <jungleboyj> spotz:  I went through it internally.
20:19:44 <ildikov> spotz: we had only the office hours, no training
20:20:07 <spotz> Ok jungleboyj that makes you the most recent user, thoughts for clean up?
20:20:23 <ildikov> jungleboyj: I knew you had a TODO on something :)
20:20:41 <jungleboyj> :-)  Well, other than the section I have a to-do on, it was received pretty well.
20:21:00 <ildikov> I think I wanted to clean up the registration and accounts one to reflect the recent changes, but I'm not sure I've actually done that
20:21:25 <spotz> Ugh I had just redone those for Boston!
20:22:43 <spotz> Poor Stacky McStackface..already out of date
20:22:55 <ildikov> spotz: we don't require Foundation membership now for contribution
20:24:41 <ildikov> but no big updates there
20:25:04 <ildikov> so it seems that we are mainly good with the content
20:25:15 <diablo_rojo> Thank goodness.
20:25:32 <ildikov> jungleboyj: do you also use all the exercises?
20:25:36 * diablo_rojo doesn't have a ton of time to help fix things if there were
20:25:42 <ildikov> we could give some thought on how to run them better
20:25:59 <ildikov> with diablo_rojo and our design team we are also trying to get stickers for the occasion
20:26:07 <ildikov> need to double check with Wes
20:26:21 <smcginnis> Maybe spotz can score some more cool github stickers. :)
20:26:28 <diablo_rojo> ildikov, I think he said he could do table tents too, not sure where all that is currently
20:26:34 <jungleboyj> I used some of them.  It was hard, however, with the students being in China.
20:26:47 <ildikov> smcginnis: +1, I like OctoCat :)
20:26:56 <spotz> smcginnis: Thanks for the reminder:) Git and Gerrit is back on the sched:)
20:26:58 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: me neither
20:27:02 <smcginnis> Those were pretty cool. And gone in minutes.
20:27:34 <smcginnis> spotz: If they have a CoffeeCat, we need to set that aside for ildikov.
20:27:43 <smcginnis> CoffeeOctoCat
20:27:47 <ildikov> smcginnis: lol, +1 :)
20:27:57 <ildikov> smcginnis: if they don't, they should!!!
20:28:16 <smcginnis> They have everything else. :)
20:28:29 <spotz> smcginnis: WIll do, I'll get cheat sheets and stickers for 75 between upstream institute and git and gerrit?
20:29:01 <smcginnis> spotz: That would be cool. A little extra incentive to attend. ;;)
20:29:14 <ildikov> spotz: awesomeness :)
20:29:31 <diablo_rojo> spotz, yes please!!
20:30:03 <spotz> request made:)
20:30:15 <ildikov> spotz: thank you :)
20:30:31 <spotz> ildikov: You're welcome. They;ve never turned me down so... :)
20:30:55 <spotz> And if anyone is free for Lunch on Wednesday:)
20:30:58 <ildikov> spotz: :)
20:31:17 <ildikov> spotz: I will add it to my calendar
20:31:34 <spotz> Just gonna do basics as it didn't get on the schedule this late, help folks get signed up and and installed. If we get farther great:)
20:31:38 <ildikov> spotz: I might have a collision though, don't know yet
20:32:15 <ildikov> basics are always good :)
20:33:51 <diablo_rojo> spotz, I'll be there if I can too :)
20:33:57 <tonyb> dhellmann, gcb: that shoudl be fine.  It's a little late but still in my comfort zone
20:34:06 <spotz> yes they are. But I like the idea of Upstream Institiute stickers... we should get our own mascot!
20:34:27 <spotz> tonyb: wrong channel, but I'll be able to pay you back that drink:)
20:34:38 <ildikov> spotz: yep :)
20:34:47 <smcginnis> Is the Wednesday lunch like the one in Boston?
20:34:50 <tonyb> :(
20:34:53 <spotz> smcginnis: Yeah
20:35:04 <smcginnis> Cool, I will try to be there.
20:35:15 <spotz> though last minute and probably more disorganized:)
20:35:32 <smcginnis> Gotta keep the status quo. ;)
20:35:42 <jungleboyj> And I am planning to be there.
20:36:00 <spotz> :)
20:37:39 <ildikov> ok, looks like we're kinda set for Sydney
20:37:47 <ildikov> besides some small updates
20:38:10 <ildikov> let's figure out how to do exercises better, especially if we will have stickers this time
20:38:29 <spotz> ildikov: Depending we may be able to photshop without having to create yet another user
20:38:42 <ildikov> I will create an etherpad with the modules, please sign up for presenting/leading them
20:38:54 <diablo_rojo> ildikov, thank you :)
20:38:58 <diablo_rojo> And will do
20:39:01 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Will do.
20:39:34 <jungleboyj> Yeah, need to figure out how to make the exercises go better.  Hopefully waiting to get them a development environment will help keep them focused?
20:39:52 <ildikov> spotz: :)
20:40:04 <ildikov> jungleboyj: we will give it to them at the end of the first day
20:40:10 <ildikov> jungleboyj: not any sooner
20:40:14 <spotz> It should help, and rewards and getting folks to interact will help
20:40:20 <ildikov> so we need to figure out IRC
20:40:29 <ildikov> spotz: +1
20:40:36 <jungleboyj> ildikov: ++
20:40:42 <spotz> Well it stands for Internet Relay Chat......
20:40:43 <diablo_rojo> Can focus on etherpads for answering day one and irc for answering day 2
20:41:17 <diablo_rojo> that way they get to know two of the main sources of communication? - besides the ML
20:41:21 <ildikov> spotz: :P
20:41:50 <spotz> ooohhhh what if we have a competition for people to figure out each others nicks? Maybe not everyones but at least 1 person
20:41:51 <ildikov> I meant that if they don't have the VM image with the client, then we need alternatives
20:42:12 <spotz> limechat, webchat?
20:42:32 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: yep, that should work too, at least I didn't create the etherpads for nothing :D
20:43:11 <ildikov> spotz: earlier we were worrying about limitations on connections at least for Webchat IIRC
20:43:35 <spotz> hrm
20:43:52 <ildikov> I'm happy if that's not the case :)
20:44:20 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Yeah, etherpads for the first day are fine.  Teaches them about one of our forms of communication.
20:44:33 <diablo_rojo> ildikov, like what happened at the PTG?
20:44:44 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, lol that's basically what I said.
20:45:03 <smcginnis> Webchat might actually be the best. For those at overly security conscious employers, sometimes that's the only option.
20:45:19 <jungleboyj> Oh, yeah.  :-)
20:45:34 <spotz> What happened at the PTG?!!!!!
20:45:36 <smcginnis> Could be slightly confusing if they learn something, then go back home and can't figure out why it doesn't work there.
20:45:42 <ildikov> IRCCloud :)
20:45:46 <smcginnis> What happens at the PTG, stays at the PTG.
20:46:01 <spotz> But but I had to go to LA for Open Source Summit!!!!
20:46:16 <smcginnis> spotz: Wish I could have done both!
20:46:16 <ildikov> I should tell them that I want some percentage on their sales, I advertise them so much... :)
20:46:42 <spotz> smcginnis: Me too:(
20:46:43 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: sort of :)
20:48:28 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  It is good stuff.
20:48:37 <ildikov> :)
20:49:05 <ildikov> BTW, kmARC is still working on the VM image, he faced with some RabbitMQ issues last week
20:49:18 <ildikov> I hope it gets fixed soon so we can test it before the training
20:49:35 <ildikov> if not, the training will be even more interesting for those who attend :)
20:50:52 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  It wouldn't be training without image excitement.
20:51:11 <ildikov> jungleboyj: true :)
20:51:38 <ildikov> #topic Open discussion
20:51:50 <ildikov> I think we were partially there anyway :)
20:52:22 <ildikov> so home work is to figure out a good way to execute on the exercises
20:52:44 <ildikov> #action jungleboyj and ildikov to do updates on Zuul and accounts
20:52:49 <jungleboyj> I think part of it is to better time box things.  Not wander off into individual conversations.
20:52:54 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  ++
20:53:19 <jungleboyj> Set up a timer for exercises and give out stickers.  See if it keeps people engaged and moving.
20:53:20 <ildikov> #action everyone to sign up for modules to present at the training, ildikov to send the etherpad for that
20:54:05 <ildikov> jungleboyj: yep, we can still have Q&A after the exercise
20:55:29 <ildikov> anything else for the last 5 minutes?
20:56:41 <diablo_rojo> I got nothing
20:57:01 <jungleboyj> Nothing here.
20:57:08 <ildikov> ok, then thanks everyone for today!
20:57:13 <smcginnis> Thanks!
20:57:16 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Thanks!
20:57:18 <ildikov> it was great to have a meeting again finally :)
20:57:24 <ildikov> have a good rest of the day!
20:57:30 <jungleboyj> You too.
20:57:41 <ildikov> see you on the channel and here two weeks from today!
20:57:52 <ildikov> #endmeeting