20:00:11 <ildikov> #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute
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20:00:59 <ildikov> spotz: diablo_rojo: jungleboyj: marst:
20:01:26 <jungleboyj> Present.
20:01:57 <ildikov> jungleboyj: hi :)
20:02:14 <jungleboyj> Howdy. How are you?
20:02:27 <ildikov> all good
20:02:34 <ildikov> trying to figure out the PTG
20:02:47 <ildikov> you?
20:04:28 <ildikov> jungleboyj: do we plan to have a prep session before the Cinder-Nova meeting Thursday morning?
20:05:28 <diablo_rojo> Here.
20:05:36 <diablo_rojo> My calendar says its not for another hour though?
20:06:09 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: then your calendar is in summer time still :)
20:07:14 <ildikov> ok, let's do a PTG planning section and then we can open discuss
20:07:20 <ildikov> #topic PTG planning
20:07:29 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Same.  :-)  Feel like I have a lot to do to prep but no time to do it.
20:08:06 <ildikov> so here's the Doodle poll: https://doodle.com/poll/y4cmhe2ur2vqkhae
20:08:51 <ildikov> not the most promising, but well
20:09:01 <jungleboyj> Looking.
20:09:17 <jungleboyj> I assume this is Dublin time?
20:09:26 <ildikov> the idea based on it to pick a corner somewhere in the venue and work in tiny groups whenever people have time
20:09:44 <ildikov> jungleboyj: I forgot to remove the time zones from the poll :/
20:09:59 <ildikov> jungleboyj: but it's basically morning/afternoon for every day
20:10:08 <jungleboyj> Ok.  That would be why the times are so weird.
20:10:21 <ildikov> sorry about that :(
20:10:31 <jungleboyj> No worries.
20:11:05 <ildikov> so we would have a working space and check with people in the Hangouts group for instance to see who's around to do stuff
20:12:09 <ildikov> and have a bigger group session Thursday 4pm - 6pm
20:12:33 <ildikov> with Hangouts link or any other way to get remote participants to join
20:13:24 <ildikov> we could do the Hangouts both Wednesday and Thursday afternoon whenever people are available to do that
20:13:59 <ildikov> Thursday afternoon would be to summarize on what we got done, what we have left and plan for the remaining time until Vancouver
20:14:17 <ildikov> thoughts?
20:14:20 <jungleboyj> Depending on how things go with Cinder I might free up Thursday afternoon but more likely to be Friday.  We shall see.
20:14:47 <diablo_rojo> Sounds like a good plan to me.
20:14:57 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Having that discussion would be good.  I need to get back in the game between now and Vancouver.
20:14:58 <ildikov> jungleboyj: I hoped you might get an early-ish finish, even if it's 5pm that should be fine
20:15:11 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Ok.  Cool.
20:15:26 <ildikov> jungleboyj: Friday is problematic with TC and the "leftover" sessions and well, last day as we know it... :(
20:15:46 <ildikov> jungleboyj: I think we all suffer from that by now
20:15:48 <jungleboyj> Or have Cinder wrap up by 4.
20:16:13 <diablo_rojo> I have sb and election things friday (tentatively at least)
20:16:21 <ildikov> jungleboyj: I support the idea :)
20:16:27 <jungleboyj> ildikov: :-)
20:16:48 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  I might have an insider for you.
20:16:57 <jungleboyj> Who knows, we may end up having tons of topics.
20:16:57 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: yeah, too many things :/
20:17:08 <ildikov> jungleboyj: :)
20:17:08 <diablo_rojo> ildikov, too many hats :)
20:17:12 <jungleboyj> Seems like there is fewer of us with more to do.
20:17:36 <jungleboyj> Sean has been having that issue too.
20:17:41 <ildikov> jungleboyj: you mean the PTG participation or overall?
20:17:48 <jungleboyj> Both.
20:18:48 <ildikov> another good reason to reimagine the training!
20:19:33 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Right.  Have a number of Lenovo people that I am trying to get to Vancouver for the training.
20:19:45 <ildikov> nice!
20:19:54 <jungleboyj> :-)
20:20:41 <ildikov> ok, if no one opposes to the outlined plan I will send out an update to the ML
20:21:21 <diablo_rojo> Sounds good.
20:21:31 <diablo_rojo> Thanks for being the queen of doodle polls :)
20:21:55 <ildikov> maybe once I will get to the point of actually liking it :)
20:22:01 <jungleboyj> Sounds good.  Will try to plan things to be there as much as possible.
20:22:44 <ildikov> jungleboyj: the issue is that this is a horizontal activity so having a dedicated time for it is pretty tough
20:23:00 <ildikov> jungleboyj: appreciate all the time you can find!
20:23:01 <jungleboyj> ildikov: Yep.  Understood.
20:23:01 <diablo_rojo> We will take notes so that you are in the loop whether you can make it or not jungleboyj :)
20:23:17 <jungleboyj> But who will take notes if I am not there!?!  ;-)
20:23:54 <ildikov> kmARC seems to be pretty available so far, so we could say that anyone who has time should find him and work on training stuff
20:24:16 <kmARC> yes yes yes
20:24:22 <ildikov> otherwise he might end up with Guinness poisoning so we should save him ;)
20:24:36 <ildikov> kmARC: ^^ :)
20:24:44 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  God, I hope that isn't possible.
20:24:50 <kmARC> sorry, I'm just distracted, but super efficient, so just shoot your problems at me :-D
20:24:52 * jungleboyj will probably test though.
20:25:04 <kmARC> so just let me read all this first :-)
20:26:57 <ildikov> kmARC: sorry, I didn't ping you tried to get the US folks around as this is the less convenient slot for Europe
20:27:22 <marst> ildikov: sorry for being late. I'm here though. :)
20:27:24 <ildikov> kmARC: so read the plan and speak up if you oppose
20:27:35 <ildikov> marst: cool, thanks for joining
20:27:46 <kmARC> So I'm kinda free except for tuesday (my kindergarten sweethart will show me around in the Facebook office <3), but other than that I'm up for anything
20:28:15 <ildikov> marst: I outlined the PTG plans so far
20:28:45 <ildikov> marst: we plan to have a group session now on Thursday 1600 - 1800 UTC
20:29:08 <ildikov> marst: with Google Hangouts or any tool people prefer to have remote participants too
20:29:52 <ildikov> kmARC: that sounds fine, it seems people are more available from Wednesday according to the poll
20:29:53 <marst> ildikov: thanks! I'll be there. :)
20:30:11 <marst> there = in google hangouts
20:30:27 <ildikov> marst: cool, thanks! I will send out a Hangouts link once we get a bit more organized :)
20:30:37 <ildikov> marst: sadness, but ack
20:31:10 <ildikov> also please note that Monday - Tuesday is Contributor Portal and First Contact SIG sessions!
20:31:24 <ildikov> please look out for those and join when you can!!!
20:33:17 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: are there already outlined plans for those two, do you know? ^^
20:33:20 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  I see the First Contact SIG.  Where is the Contributor Portal session?
20:33:43 <diablo_rojo> THe Contrib Portal is on the docs agenda
20:33:51 <ildikov> jungleboyj: Docs sessions will be dedicated to that AFAIK
20:33:51 <diablo_rojo> Haven't worked out when it is exactly
20:34:01 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo:  Ah, good.  Thanks.
20:34:13 <diablo_rojo> was going to talk to thingee + others to get a time selected.
20:34:18 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: no worries, we can always send out updates and use the PTG bot for who's there, etc
20:34:35 <jungleboyj> Will watch for that info.
20:35:10 <diablo_rojo> +1 for ptgbot usage
20:35:16 <jungleboyj> ++
20:35:47 <ildikov> cool
20:35:58 <ildikov> then it seems that slowly, but we're getting there
20:37:54 <diablo_rojo> Any progress is good progress
20:38:06 <ildikov> I will put up an etherpad to the wiki with the Thursday afternoon slot
20:38:12 <ildikov> we can use that all week
20:38:28 <ildikov> like with relevant Contributor Portal and First Contact SIG info
20:38:43 <ildikov> and to outline plans and ideas and progress for the training flow and exercises
20:39:03 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Sounds like a good plan.
20:39:12 <ildikov> if anyone has ideas in advance please drop those there too once it's out
20:42:02 <ildikov> ok
20:42:15 <ildikov> that was the main agenda item for today
20:42:25 <ildikov> it seems like we have a rough plan now
20:42:56 <ildikov> #topic Open Discussion
20:43:56 <ildikov> we have a few open reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides
20:44:07 <ildikov> we need to decide on the PTG where content goes from now on
20:44:09 * diablo_rojo can look today
20:44:31 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: they are not ready to merge until we decide on the restructuring
20:44:43 <ildikov> just wanted to bring it up for awareness
20:44:45 <diablo_rojo> Oh its just the bugsmash one.
20:44:51 <diablo_rojo> I thought it was something new.
20:44:56 <diablo_rojo> My bad. Nevermind :)
20:45:01 <ildikov> :)
20:45:20 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: just wanted to remind everyone to our repo :)
20:46:32 <diablo_rojo> noted :)
20:46:55 <ildikov> any other thoughts/questions/comments/ideas?
20:47:59 <diablo_rojo> ildikov, made an etherpad for the ptg: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OUI-Rocky-PTG
20:48:08 <diablo_rojo> Adding it to the etherpads wiki for the ptg now
20:48:15 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: cool, thank you!
20:49:06 <diablo_rojo> Done.
20:49:52 <ildikov> \o/ :)
20:50:44 <ildikov> I don't have anything more for today
20:52:49 <ildikov> alright
20:52:53 <diablo_rojo> Me neither.
20:52:59 <ildikov> thanks everyone!
20:53:01 <marst> ildikov: thank you!
20:53:07 <diablo_rojo> Thank you :)
20:53:30 <ildikov> see you soon in person or virtually! :)
20:53:42 <ildikov> have a good rest of the day!
20:53:48 <ildikov> #endmeeting