20:00:47 <ildikov> #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute
20:00:48 <openstack> Meeting started Mon May  7 20:00:47 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:00:59 <ildikov> diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, jungleboyj, csatari, spotz, mtreinish, gmann, tonyb
20:01:12 <diablo_rojo> Hello :)
20:01:15 <spotz> o/
20:01:23 <ildikov> hi :)
20:01:33 <jungleboyj> o/
20:01:53 <ildikov> agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings
20:02:30 <ildikov> I sent out the first mail to the registered people
20:02:47 <ildikov> we have 20 names on the list
20:03:22 <mtreinish> o/
20:03:28 <ildikov> I saw one or two familiar names
20:03:42 <spotz> Ell I know, anyone else?
20:04:37 <jungleboyj> That is a good number.
20:05:04 <ildikov> Armstrong, he attended the training earlier
20:05:23 <diablo_rojo> Interesting that he is coming again.
20:05:24 <spotz> Interesting he signed up as a speed mentor
20:05:32 <diablo_rojo> Yeah I saw that.
20:05:37 <ildikov> yeah, not bad, I hope people didn't forget to book their travel accordingly :)
20:05:53 <ildikov> spotz: yeah, I think he might've planned to be a mentor here too
20:05:59 <diablo_rojo> Hopefully the email you sent reminds them :)
20:06:07 <ildikov> :)
20:06:17 <ildikov> ok, let's get to business
20:06:39 <ildikov> I added our important links to the agenda
20:06:44 <ildikov> mainly
20:06:45 <ildikov> https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/913
20:06:53 <ildikov> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/contributor-guide+status:open
20:07:02 <ildikov> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides
20:07:26 <spotz> I just checked the review links and looks like we're good here
20:07:39 <ildikov> thanks to the docs guys we got the Contributor Guides patches landed today
20:07:58 <jungleboyj> Cool.
20:08:11 <ildikov> so the question is what is essential from the open stories/tasks from StoryBoard
20:08:34 <ildikov> I think we are getting there to be fine for the training
20:08:44 <ildikov> I will check on the intro
20:08:54 <spotz> Not the mentoring, we're working on getting a new leader and switching formats
20:09:13 <ildikov> spotz: yeah, I saw the Forum topic
20:09:49 <diablo_rojo> Yeah that can wait.
20:09:53 <ildikov> I think we don't need it that much, people weren't super interested in the intensive mentoring before so we can revisit that part
20:09:59 <diablo_rojo> I think building out the Zuul section would be nice.
20:10:04 <diablo_rojo> Elastic Rechecks and whatnot
20:10:16 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: most of that got merged
20:10:18 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo:  Yeah, there were comments about that the last time we ran it.
20:10:24 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: mtreinish got it covered
20:10:38 <jungleboyj> Excellent.  He had most of the comments.  :-)
20:10:43 <diablo_rojo> I saw the basic stuff, but I didn't see elastic recheck.
20:10:57 * diablo_rojo might be a bit behind having spent last week on the beach
20:11:00 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: it landed by now
20:11:00 <spotz> IRC? Gerrit?
20:11:16 <ildikov> spotz: we have only specifics for IRC left, same for Gerrit
20:11:27 <ildikov> we have DevStack and SandBox
20:11:35 <ildikov> I added myself to SandBox
20:11:45 <ildikov> anyone wants to take DevStack?
20:12:08 <ildikov> or I rather ask
20:12:14 <ildikov> who will take DevStack? :)
20:12:20 <mtreinish> diablo_rojo: it merged yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562355/
20:12:26 <spotz> I got no clue on that one:)
20:12:32 <ildikov> https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001360
20:12:54 <mtreinish> ildikov: is it devstack in general, or in vm env?
20:13:03 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  I can try to take a stab at that.
20:13:04 <ildikov> mtreinish: in general
20:13:24 <jungleboyj> Though wouldn't stop mtreinish if he wants it.
20:13:43 <ildikov> it's just what it is good for and how to apply a change and test it
20:13:51 <diablo_rojo> There still isn't info on elastic recheck.. That was marked as merged, but I don't see anything in the guide about it.
20:14:08 <mtreinish> jungleboyj: go ahead, I'll review it when you put it together
20:14:39 <jungleboyj> Ok.  will take a stab at that in the next day or two.
20:15:05 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: is the page cached?
20:15:17 <mtreinish> diablo_rojo: https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/code-and-documentation/elastic-recheck.html
20:15:25 <spotz> Yeah I never change devstack beyond what services, IPs and passwords:)
20:15:32 <ildikov> jungleboyj: thanks
20:15:41 <diablo_rojo> mtreinish, ah got it. Thanks :)
20:16:20 <ildikov> there's also an 'Allows you to...' story: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001900
20:16:38 <ildikov> would be nice to have a short summary for all the sections
20:16:59 <ildikov> on what people will learn from it/what the tool/process is good for we describe
20:17:19 <diablo_rojo> A lot of the sections already have them. Only a few left now I think.
20:17:25 <ildikov> we have some examples for that one already for IRC, Gerrit, etc.
20:17:46 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: do you have bandwidth to take that story?
20:19:29 <diablo_rojo> ildikov, yeah I think I can handle that.
20:19:37 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: cool, thanks
20:20:25 <diablo_rojo> No problem.
20:20:33 <ildikov> I think other parts in StoryBoard can wait as far as the training is concerned
20:21:05 <ildikov> what would be great to have one or two people read through the guide to see how well it reads overall
20:21:23 <ildikov> and what is missing that we might not captured in StoryBoard
20:21:44 <ildikov> who's up for that?
20:22:05 <spotz> ildikov: I can probably read:)
20:22:17 <ildikov> spotz: sounds great, thanks!
20:22:59 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  I was thinking I needed to do that so I knew what was out there.
20:23:16 <jungleboyj> So I am happy to help there as well since I haven't seen as many of the patches.
20:23:20 <ildikov> what would be nice is to have questionnaires for the lecture topics, like governance
20:23:44 <ildikov> jungleboyj: great, go ahead, the more people read it through the more issues we catch
20:24:46 <diablo_rojo> Questionaaires like exercises?
20:25:07 <ildikov> it can be that
20:25:27 <ildikov> or if there are things we want to be sure they remember we can ask questions to ensure they read it
20:25:40 <jungleboyj> ildikov: ++
20:25:46 <ildikov> so it can still be like the exercises
20:26:14 <ildikov> we could have these at the end of the "boring" blocks and people can collect swags with finding the answers
20:26:40 <ildikov> we should also go through the slides and exercises we have
20:26:52 <ildikov> I can work on that
20:27:06 <ildikov> if anyone has bandwidth I would appreciate more eyes on that too :)
20:29:48 <ildikov> spotz: diablo_rojo: how are we on swags?
20:30:34 <spotz> I've got like 10 stuffed penguin heads, some laptop camera covers, stickers and 2-3 yoyos
20:30:44 <spotz> No response from github
20:31:11 <ildikov> spotz: no worries, that's a good list
20:31:21 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: you have OUI stickers, right?
20:31:53 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  I have some from last time and I think she said she had a bunch in a previous meeting.
20:32:15 <ildikov> jungleboyj: ok, cool, just wanted to double check we're fine
20:32:52 <ildikov> the other thing I wanted to check is how much we want to encourage students to read things in advance
20:33:11 <ildikov> as we're still working on the Guide, etc. I would say we can pilot with that next time
20:33:50 <ildikov> what do you think?
20:34:28 <jungleboyj> ildikov:  Yeah, probably don't want them reading through it if we are still making changes.
20:34:33 <diablo_rojo> I do still have stickers
20:34:58 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: cool, tnx
20:35:08 <ildikov> jungleboyj: yeah, I got to that conclusion too
20:35:59 <ildikov> ok, I got through the items I wanted to check on
20:36:19 <ildikov> we have one more week before every gets into packing and flying and everything
20:36:50 <ildikov> so please put up patches this week for both content, exercises/questionnaire, and fixes
20:37:04 <ildikov> that way we get some time to review and get these landed
20:37:33 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: can you take on the task to look for a place to meet before the training on Saturday?
20:37:42 <jungleboyj> Sounds good.
20:37:46 <diablo_rojo> Yeah I will add it to my todo list now
20:38:21 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: coolio, thank you!
20:38:37 <diablo_rojo> NP
20:38:54 <ildikov> I talked to kmarc and he's working on the VM image now
20:39:23 <ildikov> he got some issues with the new build
20:39:41 <ildikov> I will keep in touch with him to see how things go
20:39:58 <ildikov> worst case scenario is to make the older build work
20:40:19 <kmarc> Check the upstream institute chat, I have the image ready
20:40:50 <ildikov> kmarc: \o/, thanks!!
20:41:02 <jungleboyj> kmarc:  Yay!
20:41:04 <ildikov> kmarc: IRC totally forgot to notify me about those pings... :/
20:41:35 <kmarc> 😀
20:42:41 <ildikov> so we're slowly, but steadily getting there
20:43:11 <ildikov> anything else we didn't touch on today, but we should?
20:45:41 <ildikov> ok, it seems we covered the ground for the remaining prep items
20:45:55 <diablo_rojo> And next week we have another video call right?
20:46:03 <ildikov> don't forget that next week we will have the call at 2200 UTC as opposed to the meeting in this time slot!!!
20:46:20 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: was just typing that in :)
20:46:37 <diablo_rojo> Lol
20:46:38 <ildikov> I sent out the meeting invite
20:46:40 <diablo_rojo> great minds :)
20:46:47 <ildikov> plz ping me if you don't have it!!
20:46:57 <ildikov> diablo_rojo: +1 ;)
20:47:12 <jungleboyj> Sounds good.
20:47:28 <ildikov> anything else from anyone?
20:49:35 <ildikov> ok, I take it as a no
20:49:57 <jungleboyj> Nope.
20:50:03 <ildikov> please work on your homeworks and keep an eye on open reviews!!!
20:50:20 <jungleboyj> Will do.
20:50:24 <ildikov> thanks everyone!
20:50:36 <jungleboyj> Thanks.  Talk to you later.
20:50:51 <ildikov> have a good day/night! :)
20:50:58 <ildikov> #endmeeting