20:00:07 <diablo_rojo> #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute
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20:00:29 <diablo_rojo> Courtesy pings: jaypipes ,bauzas, diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, jungleboyj, csatari, spotz, mtreinish, gmann, tonyb, masayukig, kmarc
20:00:45 <diablo_rojo> If you'd like to be added or removed from the list, it lives on our agenda here:
20:00:56 <diablo_rojo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings OUI Agenda
20:01:09 <jungleboyj> o/
20:01:30 <kmarc> Thanks for the ping! I wanna stay on the list 😊
20:01:34 <diablo_rojo> Oh good :) I'm not just talking to myself.
20:01:43 <diablo_rojo> Yay :) Two people!
20:01:51 <diablo_rojo> kmarc, no problem :)
20:01:57 <spotz> o/
20:02:00 <jungleboyj> Yep.  And of course please leave me on the list.
20:02:39 <diablo_rojo> I don't plan on changing it- just wanted to make sure everyone knew where I was getting it from in case they wanted to make changes or wondered why they didn't get pinged :)
20:03:00 <jungleboyj> :-)  Do we still have to pay $300 for the Summit even with the ATC code?
20:03:19 <spotz> diablo_rojo: Don't feel bad no one showed for WoO last week and fungi showed for diversity after I'd called it
20:03:20 <diablo_rojo> I thiiiiiink you get a summit pass if you go to the PTG.
20:03:24 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, ^^
20:03:50 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo:  Ok, I thoguht so too but the way it is listed on event brite is confusing.  Let me see here.
20:04:08 <spotz> jungleboyj: I think you'll get a code for the PTG?
20:04:09 <diablo_rojo> I know codes will go out the week after the PTG for the summit.
20:04:30 <diablo_rojo> not sure what the discount is- I want to say full pass, but I'm 100% sure on that one.
20:04:38 <diablo_rojo> I think so though.
20:04:47 <diablo_rojo> Anywho, lets get this party started shall we?
20:04:59 <diablo_rojo> #topic OUI Around the World!
20:05:02 <jungleboyj> Sounds good.
20:05:17 <diablo_rojo> So we had three trainings since our last real meeting I think.
20:05:32 <fungi> i think everyone's just overwhelmed with ptg prep
20:05:33 <diablo_rojo> Korea, and then two in Brazil- Sao Paulo & Rio
20:05:39 <diablo_rojo> fungi, agreed
20:06:00 <fungi> diablo_rojo: yes, 100% discount for ptg attendees
20:06:13 <spotz> fungi!:)
20:06:27 <jungleboyj> fungi: I will ping you over in Infra with my question.  :-)
20:06:30 <diablo_rojo> Korea was good. Smaller group, but everyone was really involved. A few language barriers but everyone seemed to be pretty satisfied and pleased with how things went.
20:06:32 <fungi> for dublin as well as denver attendees
20:06:49 <diablo_rojo> Sao Paulo and Rio were ENORMOUS.
20:06:51 <fungi> jungleboyj: you can always ask me infra questions
20:07:07 <diablo_rojo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-institute-brazil-2018 Sao Paulo OSD Etherpad
20:07:30 <diablo_rojo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-institute-rio-2018 Rio UFRJ OUI Etherpad
20:07:37 <diablo_rojo> You can look at the list of attendees for them.
20:08:03 <diablo_rojo> Pretty solidly stress tested the new format and it was delightfully scalable :)
20:08:11 <kmarc> Cool! What are the expectations to Berlin? And.... Is there gonna be any other OUIs until then?
20:08:18 <diablo_rojo> Ildiko and I were exhausted by the end but I think it went really well.
20:08:20 <jungleboyj> Cool.
20:08:31 <diablo_rojo> kmarc, yeah we have one more before then- OSD Nordics in Stockholm in October
20:08:56 <kmarc> Ahh... Too bad 😅
20:09:14 <diablo_rojo> Any questions on how any of these went?
20:09:18 <kmarc> I mean that's too close to Berlin. Meaning, geographically
20:09:39 <diablo_rojo> kmarc, hoping to follow ildikov and I somewhere?
20:09:51 <diablo_rojo> Should have come to Brazil with us.
20:10:11 <diablo_rojo> Any one have questions on how any of them went?
20:10:16 <spotz> If we can fit the image on our USB sticks we're going to use part of OUI at grace hopper this year
20:10:41 <diablo_rojo> spotz, you don't have like a 8 or 16 gb flash drive?
20:10:41 <kmarc> Yeah, I'd be interested if you could summarize what went well, what should we pay more attention to, etc.
20:10:46 <jungleboyj> spotz:  Nice.
20:10:51 <diablo_rojo> kmarc, sure.
20:10:53 <jungleboyj> kmarc: ++
20:11:20 <diablo_rojo> So, I think one of things we focused on a lot was talking more slowly and making sure to go over every single exercise to make sure people were getting everything.
20:11:21 <jungleboyj> Did kmarc 's images continue to work well?
20:11:29 <spotz> diablo_rojo: They bought 2 GB ones, so I'm not sure what where're going to be able to do. Might have them DL ahead of time as a pre-req
20:11:31 <diablo_rojo> Yeah.
20:11:48 <diablo_rojo> The only issues we had were networking things- firewalls on the wifi blocking IRC
20:11:50 <jungleboyj> Good.  Yeah, talking slower makes sense.
20:12:01 <jungleboyj> Weird.  Ok.
20:12:02 <diablo_rojo> and virtualization not being enabled on a few company laptops
20:12:31 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, yeah it was a campus network so I guess they had it locked down.
20:12:41 <kmarc> #facepalm
20:13:05 <diablo_rojo> Another thing we tried was having the student put links in the etherpad and collectively building a resource list to refer back to
20:13:09 <diablo_rojo> That was pretty cool.
20:13:35 <diablo_rojo> Ummm few language barriers in Brazil too, but there were a lot of people willing to help translate so that was nice.
20:13:47 <jungleboyj> Oh, that is cool.  So where they found things they needed?
20:13:58 <diablo_rojo> People are still super scared about giving negative feedback.
20:13:59 <kmarc> I guess in Sweden and Germany the language barrier would be less of a problem
20:14:13 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, in the rio etherpad you can see where they just built out a list of links
20:14:41 <jungleboyj> Ah, nice.
20:14:56 <diablo_rojo> One other cool thing is that in Rio we were able to get two students real patches merged- complete with a sb story creation and a launchpad bug.
20:14:57 <jungleboyj> How did the quiz go for those sessions?
20:15:05 <diablo_rojo> So two people walked away with ATC status
20:15:06 <jungleboyj> Nice.
20:15:26 * diablo_rojo tries to remember
20:15:56 <diablo_rojo> We did the quiz in Rio because it was a two day thing- the OUIs in Sao Paulo and Korea were only one day so there was no quiz
20:16:17 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Something we want to keep in Berlin you think?
20:16:21 <diablo_rojo> The quiz in Rio went better though because we made it shorter.
20:16:46 <diablo_rojo> And we wrote a little tougher questions to make sure people were understanding rather than just hunting for arbitrary things.
20:16:55 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, yeah I think we should keep it.
20:16:59 * kmarc needs to update himself on the quiz thingy
20:17:05 <diablo_rojo> Do something similar to what we did in Rio
20:17:13 <diablo_rojo> kmarc, I think the link is still in the Rio etherpad
20:17:22 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo:  There is.
20:17:24 <diablo_rojo> Okay. Any other questions?
20:17:25 <kmarc> Thx, will do my research
20:17:31 <diablo_rojo> :)
20:17:42 <jungleboyj> kmarc:  We did it on the second day in Vancouver too.
20:18:23 <diablo_rojo> I'll move on if there aren't other questions :)
20:18:27 <jungleboyj> Well, all sounds good.
20:18:42 <diablo_rojo> Yeah it definitely went well.
20:18:57 <kmarc> jungleboyj Yeah I know but our growing bromance were distracting us 🤣
20:19:17 <diablo_rojo> #topic Berlin OUI
20:19:32 <jungleboyj> kmarc:  I had no idea I was so distracting.  ;-)
20:19:35 <diablo_rojo> So, firstly, thanks jungleboyj and Lenovo for sponsoring it once again.
20:19:44 <jungleboyj> \o/
20:19:50 <jungleboyj> Welcome.  Glad to do it.
20:19:55 <diablo_rojo> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Upstream+Institute Berlin Schedule
20:20:16 <diablo_rojo> Please start promoting it however you see fit now that its live on the schedule as well :)
20:20:27 <diablo_rojo> I plan to tweet about it and get the OS handle to do the same
20:21:15 <spotz> I think the board meeting is only going to be part of the day this time so I should be able to help some the sedcond day too
20:21:25 <diablo_rojo> It will be Sunday and Monday this round since the Summit doesn't start till Tuesday.
20:21:34 <diablo_rojo> spotz, yeah I think thats correct
20:21:47 <diablo_rojo> Hopefully won't obstruct quite as much as it has in the past.
20:22:00 <diablo_rojo> The etherpad has already been created as well.
20:22:05 <diablo_rojo> for the training
20:22:18 <diablo_rojo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-institute-berlin-2018 Berlin OUI Etherpad
20:22:28 <diablo_rojo> So please add your name if you can be a mentor :)
20:23:07 <spotz> done
20:23:34 <diablo_rojo> Thanks spotz :)
20:23:42 <jungleboyj> Done
20:23:52 <diablo_rojo> Ummm... trying to think if there is anything else on this topic right now..
20:23:55 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, cool :)
20:24:34 <diablo_rojo> Anyone else got anything on OUI in Berlin?
20:24:54 <kmarc> We plan to start Sunday afternoon right?
20:24:54 <jungleboyj> I don't think so right now.
20:25:06 <jungleboyj> Have you changed the material much since Vancouver?
20:25:11 <diablo_rojo> kmarc, correct. Sunday afternoon and all day Monday.
20:25:37 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, little bits here and there. Tried to bring the Training Guides sections into parity with the contributor guide for cross linking
20:25:50 <diablo_rojo> Not a ton of new content has been added to the guide
20:26:00 <diablo_rojo> #topic In Progress Work
20:26:05 <jungleboyj> Ok.
20:26:26 <diablo_rojo> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides+status:open Training Guides Open Reviews
20:26:43 <diablo_rojo> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/contributor-guide+status:open Contributor Guide Open Reviews
20:26:49 <diablo_rojo> Not a ton in either repo
20:26:53 <diablo_rojo> but there are a couple
20:27:05 <diablo_rojo> I have one in the training guides that I need to respond to some comments on
20:27:33 <diablo_rojo> If you're interesting in helping out with a patch here or there we still have some open items in the contributor guie
20:27:36 <diablo_rojo> guide
20:27:44 <diablo_rojo> #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/913 Contrib Guide SB
20:29:06 <diablo_rojo> I imagine there are typos that we still have to clean up that don't have stories for them
20:29:16 <diablo_rojo> Should probably check all the links too
20:30:00 <jungleboyj> :-)  Hope after the PTG to have some time to get back to stuff like that.
20:30:24 <diablo_rojo> Yeah I think we are all in PTG prep mode now
20:30:41 <jungleboyj> :-)
20:30:50 <diablo_rojo> Any other comments here?
20:32:47 <diablo_rojo> #topic Open Discussion
20:33:57 <diablo_rojo> So one other fun thing I have been talking through with jamesmcarthur_ in my oodles of spare time is adding the OUI logo to people that have 'graduated' from it to their foundation member profiles. I just need to spend an hour compiling attendance lists into a yaml.
20:34:16 * diablo_rojo says oodles of spare time with immense sarcasm
20:34:28 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo:  Oh that is kind of cool.
20:34:43 <diablo_rojo> Yeah- they already do similar for the COA
20:34:45 <spotz> cool
20:34:47 <diablo_rojo> I figured why not?
20:35:08 <jungleboyj> Do the OUI trainers get anything?  :-)
20:35:13 <diablo_rojo> Would also then maybe be a little easier to pull contribution info for those that have the flag set in their profiles
20:35:17 <spotz> we'll have to sign up as students:)
20:35:27 <jungleboyj> spotz:  :-)
20:35:29 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, I suppose we could have it too.
20:35:44 <diablo_rojo> I honestly was thinking about getting it embroidered on a sweater
20:35:47 <spotz> We gotta get them all!
20:35:49 <jungleboyj> I like the OUI logo.  :-)
20:36:10 * diablo_rojo is a nerd and secretly kinda misses uniforms some days
20:36:23 <kmarc> LOL
20:36:26 * jungleboyj isn't surprised
20:36:49 * diablo_rojo wears a slytherin sweater with pride, why not an OUI one?
20:36:59 <jungleboyj> :-)
20:37:26 <diablo_rojo> If we wanted to get polos or hoodies or tshirts or something..its something to look into
20:37:26 <jungleboyj> Hmmm, maybe I will have to see if I can get Lenovo to get us shirts or something for the next one with the Logo.
20:37:34 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo:  ++
20:37:37 <jungleboyj> Jinx
20:37:38 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, +2 +W
20:37:38 <spotz> ooohhhhh
20:38:06 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo:  If you can look into getting them made and cost I can take it to Teri.
20:38:23 <tonyb> shirts!
20:38:28 <diablo_rojo> I could do that. What sort of garment are we thinking?
20:38:30 <jungleboyj> Assuming that the Foundation has connectings there.
20:38:41 <jungleboyj> I am partial to Polo shirts.
20:38:45 <jungleboyj> I know, surprising.
20:38:53 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, lol you show up when there is talk of swag :P
20:39:00 <jungleboyj> Though I do love hoodies too.
20:39:04 <jungleboyj> I noticed that.
20:39:08 <tonyb> <- has a talent
20:39:28 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, not sure about connections but I can look into it
20:39:38 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, like a spidey sense but with swag
20:39:56 <tonyb> swag-sense
20:40:15 <diablo_rojo> Sounds way less cool than spidey sense, but much more practical?
20:40:24 <jungleboyj> :-)
20:40:39 <spotz> I like swag:)
20:41:00 <diablo_rojo> Anywho. Will look into that and see what I can find out.
20:41:29 <diablo_rojo> Anything else for Open Discussion?
20:41:41 <spotz> Hoodies would be nice though, could wear them all week...
20:41:44 <jungleboyj> Ok, let me know what you find out.  I will send out a feeler on my side to see what kind of money we could get.
20:41:58 <jungleboyj> spotz:  I suppose it will be cooler over there.
20:42:07 <spotz> On the plus side there's not a ton of us...
20:42:19 <spotz> jungleboyj: I was thinking even in the cold rooms!
20:42:34 <diablo_rojo> spotz, could be a plus, might not.. generally you only get discounts for bulk
20:43:00 <spotz> true
20:43:41 <diablo_rojo> I got nothing else, but I will leave it open for a little while in case someone else pops in.
20:48:57 <kmarc> I know it's early but please squeeze in an OUI hangouts meeting around 3 weeks before the summit
20:49:16 <spotz> hehe, OUI PUI Buguette
20:49:34 <kmarc> I think it's always helpful and brings everyone to the same understanding of what we all and how do
20:49:35 <diablo_rojo> kmarc, yeah I think after the PTG maybe we can get that doodle poll out
20:49:40 <diablo_rojo> kmarc, +2
20:50:20 <jamesmcarthur_> diablo_rojo: I will implement this change with my oodles of spare time ;)
20:50:39 <diablo_rojo> jamesmcarthur_, you and me both, just slacking away ;)
20:51:38 <diablo_rojo> Okay I thiiiink I'm gonna call it.
20:51:44 <diablo_rojo> Going once...
20:52:00 <diablo_rojo> Going twice...
20:52:23 <diablo_rojo> Thanks everyone!
20:52:52 <kmarc> Thanks for the updates!
20:52:56 <diablo_rojo> #endmeeting