15:01:42 <piet> #startmeeting openstack_ux 15:01:43 <openstack> Meeting started Fri May 27 15:01:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is piet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:44 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:47 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ux' 15:02:03 <piet> Let's take role and see if anyone is here 15:02:22 <piet> Otherwise, we can skip for two weeks 15:03:11 <robcresswell> o/ 15:03:13 <piet> Hi robcresswell 15:03:23 <piet> How are things? 15:03:38 <robcresswell> Yeah all good. 15:03:45 <piet> Lemme chat with you about a few things while we're waiting 15:03:48 <robcresswell> Sure 15:04:01 <piet> #topic horizon research needs 15:04:20 <piet> Is Horizon needing any research? 15:04:38 <piet> Believe you mentioned the overview panel 15:05:11 <robcresswell> It was more a suggestion than anything. We've talked before about whether the Admin/Project dashboard divide makes sense 15:05:21 <piet> Huh 15:05:22 <robcresswell> And whether there may be a better way to divide up the content 15:05:41 <robcresswell> Because "admin" is a bit of a vague term nowadays 15:05:58 <piet> How that work? A single dashboard with content filtered based on privileges? 15:05:58 <peristeri> o/ 15:06:23 <tsufiev> hi 15:06:31 <hurgleburgler> o/ 15:06:47 <robcresswell> piet: That was on suggestion yeah 15:06:59 <piet> Hi tsufiev Hi hurgleburgler 15:07:21 <robcresswell> And then maybe having a cross-region panel group, with bigger data aggregation views. 15:07:23 <piet> All, robcresswell and I were discussing Horizon research 15:07:46 <robcresswell> The discussion blueprint from our side is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/data-architecture 15:07:49 <piet> Hi peristeri ! Can you introduce yourself to the team? 15:07:51 <robcresswell> It's quite open ended 15:08:30 <piet> robcresswell What about Horizon/Searchlight integration? 15:08:47 <peristeri> Hi everyone, I worked briefly on Horizon, and attended the design meeting in Austin. 15:09:05 <piet> Hi peristeri ! 15:09:25 <robcresswell> piet: Angular work is moving us that way, but searchlight isnt something we can rely on right now. 15:09:59 <piet> robcresswell k - I know the folks at HPE approached me about running a usability study on it 15:10:37 <piet> BTW - I need to leave at the bottom of the hour for another meeting 15:10:49 <robcresswell> Searchlight helps a lot with aggregating the data, but this is about presentation really. 15:11:45 <ducttape_> is this really going to happen!? 15:12:02 <piet> k - can't make any promises on the dashboard because OS UX is going to be busy with alot of research before the next summit 15:12:17 <piet> ducttape_ is what going to happen? Searchlight? 15:12:28 <ducttape_> todays meeting 15:12:36 <ducttape_> I'm more realistic than that 15:12:38 <ducttape_> :P 15:12:42 <piet> Yeah, we're in the middle of it 15:12:44 <hurgleburgler> ducttape_ LOL 15:12:55 <robcresswell> piet: Sure. Just wanted to see what thoughts were. 15:12:59 <piet> Tough crowd 15:14:11 <piet> ducttape_ How would you prioritize the dashboard work and searchlight/horizon integration. We likely only have cycles for one 15:15:01 <ducttape_> I'd need to take a lot at them again and review, I don't have a good answer off the top of my head 15:15:15 <piet> Kk 15:15:30 <piet> I can also reach out to a few other operators to see what they think 15:16:02 <ducttape_> yep. if you had option A and option B defined, thats usually easy to answer 15:16:25 <piet> ducttape_ Kk 15:16:52 <piet> Ready to move on? I need to leave in fifteen minutes, so may do a quick core dump of stuff going on 15:17:00 <julim> hiya. sorry I'm late 15:17:26 <robcresswell> Sure 15:17:55 <piet> #topic user research resource 15:18:30 <piet> We are currently interviewing folks to conduct user research fro the community. Half time 15:19:12 <julim> count me in piet 15:19:29 <julim> which research topics though as we've quite a few this release 15:20:09 <piet> Interviews will start next week. I'm thinking the person will focus on help in OpenStack and Installer deployer 15:20:18 <piet> Not sure yet 15:20:30 <julim> ack 15:20:41 <piet> julim Ack? 15:20:53 <julim> piet to the interviews starting next week 15:21:17 <julim> piet - my availability limited in june due to another offsite and red hat summit end of month 15:21:27 <julim> but will try and help as best I can pending availability 15:21:30 <piet> Just a contract gig. It may take a while because seasoned researchers are hard to find 15:21:52 <piet> julim You know that 15:22:23 <julim> ack piet 15:22:37 <piet> Did anyone else have any preferences on what this person should focus on? We're specifically looking for survey, usability and interview epereince 15:23:55 <piet> The other topics on the plate are quotas, openstack client and API 15:24:21 <tsufiev> oh, quotas! 15:24:53 * tsufiev would be glad to see quota handling cease to exist as a bunch of ad-hoc solutions in horizon 15:25:02 <robcresswell> quotas would be good 15:25:17 <tsufiev> but I'm afraid that besides good UX practices we would need a solid support from other service teams 15:25:22 <tsufiev> which is hard to predict :/ 15:25:23 <piet> Yep. Keep in mind that this person and I will be sharing splitting research responsibilities 15:26:17 <piet> tsufiev We had a meeting on quotas and the consensus was that we need decent use cases to understand what is needed 15:27:08 <tsufiev> piet, got it. I was looking at quotas from inside, I mean code - and speaking of code, quotas are horrible in Horizon :) 15:28:10 <piet> tsufiev Yep. I've heard in a pain for devs to implement in Horizon. Hearing similar things from operators that are using APIs - no consistency 15:28:50 <piet> A couple of quick things 15:29:10 <tsufiev> piet, seems that UX research here may overlap with the activity of different cross-project API groups 15:29:43 <piet> tsufiev yep - reached out to them 15:29:59 <piet> Gotta go, but... 15:30:01 <piet> Craige will be depploying pholio for us to test 15:30:09 <hurgleburgler> \o/ 15:31:05 <robcresswell> Sounds good 15:31:10 <piet> Pushing the foundation to create a "user experience" track for summits which could be called something like "Focus on Customers" or "What have you done for me lately" 15:31:29 <piet> Good for Horizon, I think... 15:31:38 <piet> Gotta go 15:32:01 <piet> Do you want to end the meeting or have hurgleburgler drive the discussion? 15:32:46 <piet> 5 15:32:47 <piet> 4 15:32:49 <piet> 3 15:32:49 <piet> 2 15:32:51 <piet> 1 15:33:07 <piet> #endmeeting openstack_ux