19:04:22 <dtroyer> #startmeeting openstackclient
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19:04:35 <stevemar> rtheis seems to be missing
19:04:41 <stevemar> looks like its just you and i dtroyer!
19:04:55 <dtroyer> I suspect he may be travelling?
19:05:09 * stevemar shrugs
19:05:14 <stevemar> i don't keep tabs on him
19:05:17 <dtroyer> which, while on the topic, I will be next week
19:05:31 <stevemar> oh nice
19:05:34 <stevemar> i will be too
19:05:35 <dtroyer> Thursday is a travel day so I will not be around to run a meeting
19:05:44 <stevemar> i'll be traveling M-W
19:06:16 <dtroyer> M-Th for me
19:06:40 <dtroyer> so let's start with...
19:06:46 <dtroyer> #topic summit space request
19:07:03 <dtroyer> Last couple of summits we had one of each type of space
19:07:19 <dtroyer> The meetup time has been a near-no-op for both
19:07:41 <dtroyer> I'd be willing to drop that since there is only Friday afternoon available overall
19:07:45 <dtroyer> for those
19:07:52 <stevemar> dtroyer: funny you say that, gordc just said that friday afternoon meetups are useful on the ML
19:08:05 <dtroyer> for some projects I'm sure they are
19:08:05 <stevemar> are useless***
19:08:12 <dtroyer> oh, yeah
19:08:21 <stevemar> since folks are either: a) exhausted or b) traveling back home
19:08:42 <stevemar> i like the concept of the meetup, but the timing is just terribad
19:09:03 <stevemar> we should do a skunkworks one and have it on tuesday during the sessions :P
19:09:11 <dtroyer> yup.  maybe with only a 4 day schedule it doesn't feel quite as bad…plus none in the morning
19:10:28 <dtroyer> I'll put in for one fishbowl and one workroom then and see what happens
19:10:34 <stevemar> yeah
19:10:58 <stevemar> the meetup would very useful if we could just have a few cores hangout and code
19:11:43 <dtroyer> I hope rtheis comes… I'd just like to get the gang together once ;)
19:12:16 <stevemar> :)
19:12:19 <dtroyer> #topic 3.0 release
19:12:31 <dtroyer> [this is mostly for the record, we both know whazzup]
19:12:31 <stevemar> hope tang and huanxuan come too!
19:13:03 <stevemar> i thought tangchen did a lot of of coding when he first joined osc, then we all saw huanxuan... :|
19:13:12 <dtroyer> :)
19:13:22 <dtroyer> folks want network!
19:13:29 <stevemar> do they ever!
19:13:55 <stevemar> at openstacksv i talked with SpamapS and he said he exclusively uses osc :D
19:14:14 <stevemar> so so, 3.0.0
19:14:25 <stevemar> just waiting for a few patches to land
19:14:33 <dtroyer> The release has been a total trainwreck for 2 weeks, trying to get a grip on o-c-c brokenness, fix one thing and discover another problem.
19:14:47 <stevemar> dtroyer: are you at all worried about the hacks?
19:14:57 <dtroyer> so yeah, I need to double-check the docs and relnotes yet, I think they're good to go
19:15:09 <dtroyer> worried?  no, they work, but ugly as sin
19:15:14 <stevemar> ha
19:15:26 <stevemar> i guess occ won't be changing anything now
19:15:45 <dtroyer> I'm still trying to decide how to fix o-c-c, the 1.19.1 fix actually made things worse
19:16:06 <stevemar> :(
19:16:26 <dtroyer> so I'm going to start breaking things down into small chunks so we can build a replacement gor get_one_cloud() that does what it needs to and let the rest of the folk use their ugliness
19:16:31 <stevemar> dtroyer: does dhellmann/ttx/dims know that we want to release 3.0.0 today/tomorrow?
19:17:02 <dtroyer> Not specifically, and I expect they'll sit on it until Monday.  I don't want to be fixing things over the weekend meyself
19:17:32 <dtroyer> I'm only going to the Mother Ship in Portland so I'll be around if needed
19:17:45 <stevemar> tahts helpful
19:17:57 <stevemar> the week of 22 is lib freeze for non-client libs
19:18:14 <stevemar> so we do have a one week buffer .... #famouslastwords
19:18:41 <dtroyer> ya, this went on far too long
19:19:17 <stevemar> dhellmann: thoughts on the upcoming 3.0 release for osc?
19:19:28 <stevemar> dhellmann: from a release perspective
19:19:41 <dhellmann> stevemar : it's thursday, so either today or next week
19:19:44 <stevemar> dhellmann: theres a massive list of changes
19:20:07 <stevemar> thursday at 11:59 EST works right?! :)
19:20:14 <dtroyer> dhellmann: what time today?  If I can get folk to stop re-triggering the check jobs I might make it
19:20:16 <dhellmann> then I'd suggest next week at a time when the team will be around
19:20:37 <dtroyer> I'm going to propose the change whenever it is ready, if it's past your cutoff, I understand
19:20:39 <dhellmann> it's already fairly late in the day on the east coast :-/
19:20:46 <dhellmann> ok, that works
19:21:22 <stevemar> dtroyer: the changes i approved in keystone in the morning are merging now, so osc ones should be a few hours away (they are not in integrated merge queue)
19:22:27 <stevemar> sounds like monday is the big day
19:22:32 <dtroyer> I've been watching the status…unfortunately, resetting 354214 totally took us out of the possibility of anything before dinner my time
19:23:35 <stevemar> my bad :(
19:23:58 <dtroyer> what's one more week?
19:24:41 <dtroyer> #topic open discussion
19:24:59 <stevemar> dtroyer: weekend* :P
19:25:04 <dtroyer> I'm skipping the usual...
19:25:10 <stevemar> ya
19:25:34 <stevemar> oh, i tried to push knikolla your way to implement token caching
19:25:43 <stevemar> he's a damn good coder
19:25:55 <dtroyer> I talked to him a bit, thanks
19:26:14 <dtroyer> there's another wart that o-c-c grew that we need to be careful of
19:27:24 <stevemar> dtroyer: i also told the cinder team i would create a matrix that has all the cinder CLIs and openstack CLIs in a doc
19:27:30 <stevemar> and they can see what it's lacking
19:27:38 <knikolla> o/
19:27:43 <stevemar> i think they really want to see that
19:28:21 <dtroyer> I thought they already had that? in a BP somewhere?
19:28:39 <stevemar> yeah, in a BP, but i think it's not translating well
19:28:43 <stevemar> i'll make a google doc
19:29:09 * dtroyer hides from the not-free brigade about to rain down on stevemar
19:29:24 <stevemar> eh?
19:29:44 <dtroyer> nevermind
19:30:08 <stevemar> you and your crazy references
19:30:29 <dtroyer> I know, right?
19:31:03 <dtroyer> well, anything else?
19:32:47 <stevemar> not from me
19:33:12 <stevemar> part of me worries how the plugins will deal with this
19:33:14 <stevemar> but ....
19:33:22 <stevemar> if they are at all affected
19:33:36 <dtroyer> they shouldn't be at all, that code stayed in osc
19:34:04 <dtroyer> the migration of plugins using osc-lib should be done slowly at first, not an all-at-once thing
19:35:52 <dtroyer> ok then, let's go watch Zuul ;)
19:35:55 <stevemar> i see
19:35:57 <stevemar> agreed
19:36:08 <stevemar> i just don't want the plugins to start printing deprecation warnings
19:36:11 <stevemar> lets go watch zuul
19:36:16 <stevemar> gonna go for a walk, back in 20
19:36:22 <dtroyer> #endmeeting