18:00:56 <mfisch> #startmeeting Operations 18:00:56 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jan 7 18:00:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mfisch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:57 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:58 <dvorak> yeap 18:01:00 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'operations' 18:01:02 <mdorman> o/ 18:01:12 <mfisch> a lovely snowy day here, who's around??? 18:01:19 <klindgren> o/ 18:02:13 <mfisch> okay we dont have many topics today 18:02:27 <mfisch> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-operators-meeting-070115-agenda 18:02:58 <mfisch> The main topic is the mid-cycle meet-up which is March 9-10 in Philadelphia 18:03:08 <mfisch> anyone here planning to go? 18:03:20 <mdorman> i figure on going, assuming my boss says i can 18:03:24 <klindgren> I hope to - haven't actaully discussed it yet 18:03:30 <rickerc> I am 18:03:43 <mfisch> I am going as is dvorak 18:03:58 <dvorak> yeap 18:04:11 <mfisch> the main thing is that everyone should work on adding topics to the Etherpad: 18:04:14 <mfisch> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PHL-ops-meetup 18:04:20 <mfisch> not sure that link is working but thats the etherpad 18:04:57 <serverascode____> I'm going to the Philly meetup as well 18:05:00 <mdorman> also need people to volunteer to lead/guide the sessions and owrking groups 18:05:04 <mdorman> fwiw 18:05:41 <mfisch> what does that entail? 18:05:56 <mdorman> really just taking that from Tom’s notes at the top of hte etherpad 18:06:08 <mdorman> "We also need Moderators, who lead the discussions, ususally in areas they are interested in." 18:06:37 <jlk> oh hi. Missed the start. 18:06:43 <mfisch> I hoped tom could make it today, but I dont see him 18:07:24 <mfisch> crinkle: will you be there? 18:07:45 <crinkle> mfisch: I haven't brought it up with my company yet, will do asap 18:07:51 * mfisch notes that puppet has a lot of votes 18:08:13 <emagana> I will be at the meet up as well 18:08:43 <emagana> mdorman: I already signed up as moderators 18:08:49 <jlk> this is the operators meet up this March? 18:08:56 <mdorman> cool, yeah saw that emagana 18:09:01 <mdorman> jlk: yes 18:09:03 <mfisch> I see furious editing going on so thats good 18:09:20 <jlk> yeah I plan to be there with a couple others from my company 18:09:23 <mfisch> Anything we should know or prep for the meet-up for those who've attended? 18:10:01 <jlk> come with an agenda, be prepared to pitch it, also be prepared to be completely overwhelmed with data :) 18:10:30 <mdorman> yaeh i’d agree. try to get things you’re most interested in the etherpad so the agenda accurately reflects what people want to get out of it 18:11:29 <mfisch> thanks 18:11:54 <mfisch> This will be an ongoing process and ML discussion 18:12:01 <mfisch> unless there's anything else on this we can move on? 18:12:09 <rickerc> are particulars (time, address, etc) firmed up yet? adding those to the wiki will help people booking travel 18:12:25 <mdorman> yeah there was a ML post about that 18:12:39 <mdorman> but its mar 9-10 in philadelphia 18:12:41 <mfisch> rickerc: March 9 - 10, ending early enough on the 10th to catch planes 18:12:59 <mfisch> I'm planning on leaving early on the 11th since I have a long flight 18:13:09 <mdorman> +1 18:13:29 <dvorak> we've booked travel, we're staying at the Windsor Suites, which is a block or two away 18:13:29 <mfisch> rickerc: its hosted at the Comcast building 18:13:47 <dvorak> also, the Comcast building has a subway station in the basement, so it's easy to get to from the airport or Amtrak 18:14:11 * mfisch notes he can spur discussion simply by threatening to change the topic 18:14:52 <markvoelker> Is someone setting up an eventbrite, or should we just register via etherpad? 18:15:24 <mfisch> good ML question, can you reply to Tom? 18:15:40 <markvoelker> sure 18:16:02 <mdorman> there was a question about registration on the ML this morning. i imagine tom will reply soon 18:16:30 <markvoelker> AH, so there was. Cool. 18:17:36 <mfisch> would things like ovs work as topics? 18:17:46 <mfisch> I wonder if that's too low level 18:17:48 <mdorman> don’t see why not 18:17:53 <mdorman> it’s relevant to people 18:18:04 <markvoelker> mdorman: +1 18:18:26 <klindgren> Are we still using the github repo for ops tools? or did we get an "offical" one? 18:18:38 <rickerc> throw it in the wiki, see how many votes it gets 18:18:42 <mdorman> no official one yet as far as i know 18:18:46 <mfisch> to my knowledge we dont have an official one yet 18:19:35 <markvoelker> Nothing official AFAIK. Even the osops repo has seen relatively little traffic. 18:19:53 <klindgren> Can people update what they have in the current one (I know I have some updates that need to get pushed) 18:19:56 <mdorman> yeah i htink everyone likes the idea, but kinda difficult to get momentum going on contributions 18:21:14 <mfisch> I've been meaning to contribute some db upgrade stuff but I've not found the time 18:21:19 <mfisch> assume thats everyones issue 18:21:37 <mfisch> thanks for the segue klindgren 18:21:41 <mfisch> #topic tools 18:22:26 <mfisch> I don't see Xav here, but he was going to start working on sharing some of his tools/processess 18:23:00 <mfisch> has anyone else considered that? 18:23:55 <mdorman> there have been a few people put stuff in there. 18:24:32 <mdorman> i feel like it might make more sense to just have everybody kinda do a ‘dump’ there, and then we can start looking for commonalities, dups, etc. 18:24:45 <mfisch> what do you think about company specific stuff? 18:24:54 <mfisch> everyone has quirks that their code accomadates 18:24:56 <mdorman> so i guess what i’m saying is i think there is value in people just sending in a PR of their directory of stuff, rather than trying to to patches against what’s in there at the moment. 18:24:58 <mfisch> undocumented usually 18:25:26 <mdorman> well my personal opionin on that stuff is that generally it should stay out of the community tools. and/or have it be configurable so it’s disabled by default, etc. 18:26:02 <mfisch> I need to consider that when writing tools like ansible code 18:26:12 <mfisch> or at least make it so that its easy to see where that stuff is and remove 18:26:25 <mdorman> right. it’s tricky 18:26:35 <mfisch> okay lets move along 18:26:39 <mfisch> #topic sample config follow-up 18:26:51 <mfisch> did anyone see any follow-up about sample configs? 18:26:57 <mfisch> there was supposed to be a proposal and ML post 18:27:21 <dvorak> I didn't see anything. I'm guessing it got lost over the holiday 18:27:34 <mfisch> does anyone remember who agreed to do that? 18:27:37 <mdorman> yeah i am not sure wehre that got left either 18:28:22 <mfisch> mdorman: can you look back at that meeting minutes and see who agreed to do the work? 18:28:27 <mfisch> I'm blanking on the name 18:28:28 <mdorman> yeah doing that now 18:28:32 <mfisch> I can ping him or you can 18:29:04 <mfisch> okay we can take that offline 18:29:09 <mfisch> #action follow-up on sample config proposal 18:29:16 * mfisch is pretty sure meeting bot is ignoring me 18:30:00 <mfisch> okay the only other topic is packaging follow-up but thats in the same boat as tools 18:31:10 <mfisch> I will ping xavprince about tools and what not after this 18:31:30 <mfisch> mdorman: can you ping on the sample config? 18:31:57 <mdorman> digging through the log now. http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2014/crossproject.2014-12-16-21.01.log.txt there were no specific actions from it last time, so trying to find the name 18:32:34 <mfisch> I think it was fungi 18:33:00 <dvorak> I believe so 18:33:11 <mfisch> 21:29:53 <fungi> so i think as a takeaway we can at least summarize some of these options as doable and take the temperature on the ml thread>? 18:33:20 <mfisch> mdorman: can you ping him? 18:33:22 <fungi> yeah 18:33:27 <mfisch> ah, done! 18:33:27 <fungi> i did that 18:33:34 <mdorman> yeah i was goign to say, pretty sure that already happened 18:33:42 <fungi> not many people followed up on the mailing list to my summary 18:33:59 <mfisch> fungi: which ml? 18:35:14 <mfisch> if I missed it, I apologize 18:35:19 <fungi> operators ml 18:35:23 <fungi> digging up a link now 18:35:30 <mfisch> thanks 18:36:25 <fungi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2014-December/005742.html 18:36:47 <mfisch> okay then I missed it, my fault 18:37:41 <mfisch> okay anything else for today? 18:38:36 <markvoelker> Just one quick reminder I think 18:39:07 <markvoelker> Since folks here have an interest in ops, some of you may also be interested in work being done in the "Win The Enterprise" teams 18:39:17 <markvoelker> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Win_the_Enterprise 18:39:44 <markvoelker> There are some folks there interested in operations, monitoring, deployment, etc 18:39:55 <markvoelker> So just wanted to raise awareness for those who didn't know. 18:40:20 <barrett1> The Win The Enterprise teams are looking for more Operators to participate 18:41:24 <barrett1> The Win The Enterprise teams are looking to create reference architectures, best practices, documentation patches and blueprints for new capabilities 18:42:13 <markvoelker> barrett1: might be good to get those meetings listed/linked to from the official Meetings wiki page to raise awareness 18:42:17 <markvoelker> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings 18:42:53 <dvorak> mfisch dropped offline, let's give him a minute and we can wrap up if he can't get back online shortly. 18:43:22 <mdorman> more soil samples at the office? :) 18:43:33 <dvorak> heh, I think he's WFH today 18:44:06 <mfisch> sorry, I lost networking for a bit 18:44:07 <mdorman> (context: https://twitter.com/tadowguy/status/543077687409905664 ) 18:44:08 <mfisch> uh, I was showing a repair guy something and unplugged the router ;) 18:44:10 <mfisch> anyway, I dont know what I missed but we were about done? 18:44:22 <mfisch> #funtimes 18:44:32 <mdorman> i think so. unless there were other topics anyone was going to call out. 18:44:52 <barrett1> You can find a list of the Win The Enterprise Teams and meeting times on the WTE wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Win_the_Enterprise. Will add to meetings Wiki too 18:45:16 <barrett1> What's the location for the tools repository? 18:45:52 <klindgren> barrett1, https://github.com/osops 18:48:11 <mfisch> unless there's anything else? I'll close out 18:48:25 <fungi> oh, i meant to add, the takeaway from the sample configs discussion on the ml needs to result in a volunteer to draft a cross-project spec 18:48:39 <fungi> which i mention in my follow-up e-mail in that thread 18:48:54 <fungi> but anyway, that's the "how to get something done about it" once there's some consensus 18:49:09 <mfisch> thanks fungi 18:49:35 <fungi> yw 18:49:57 <mfisch> thanks all 18:50:12 <mfisch> hopefully we'll get some follow-up on that thread, I'll go look at it later this week 18:50:59 <mfisch> #endmeeting