15:02:55 <serverascode> #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv
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15:02:59 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'operators_telco_nfv'
15:03:06 <ad_rien_> o/
15:03:13 <serverascode> #topic roll call
15:03:19 <ad_rien_> o/
15:03:21 <serverascode> sorry I started this in the wrong room
15:03:27 <serverascode> *sigh*
15:03:43 <SergeM> hello
15:03:48 <serverascode> ad_rien_ it was like I was just talking to you :)
15:03:53 <serverascode> hi SergeM
15:04:02 <serverascode> anyone else here for the ops/telecom nfv meeting?
15:04:49 <serverascode> ok so far looks like just the 3 of us
15:05:03 <serverascode> I'll give it another minute
15:05:45 <serverascode> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-telco-nfv-meeting-agenda
15:05:50 <serverascode> if anyone has anything to add to the agenda
15:05:54 <serverascode> I only have one real item
15:06:20 <serverascode> #topic boston sessoin
15:06:41 <serverascode> we agreed last week what we would put on the agenda for boston, so I think we are good there unless someone has an additiona item to ad
15:06:44 <serverascode> *add
15:07:34 <serverascode> ok nothing so far :)
15:07:45 <jamemcc> Hi
15:07:46 <SergeM> anything about The Forum. Not sure myself, asking...
15:08:06 <serverascode> let me find the ethercalc
15:08:10 <serverascode> hi jamemcc :)
15:08:30 <serverascode> #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/=qqdo5sfmri
15:08:47 <serverascode> that was the forum sessions that were related to NFV and some were chosen and some were not
15:09:00 <serverascode> so the boston session I'm talking about is this one
15:09:23 <ad_rien_> sorry serverascode what is the ethercalc?
15:09:29 <serverascode> link: http://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17636/openstack-operators-telecomnfv-working-group-session
15:09:45 <serverascode> the ethercalc was where we were listing some of the NFV related forum sessions
15:09:55 <serverascode> the ones that were suggested, some were accepted some not
15:10:27 <ad_rien_> ok thanks
15:10:34 <ad_rien_> what about that session too: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18753/collaboration-between-telecomnfv-related-groups
15:10:47 <serverascode> right, was just looking for the etherpad for that
15:10:49 <serverascode> link# https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-telecom-nfv-collaboration
15:11:17 <serverascode> and then I created an etherpad for our (not forum) session
15:11:18 <serverascode> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-ops-telecom-nfv
15:11:21 <serverascode> link# https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-ops-telecom-nfv
15:11:51 <serverascode> so if you haven't taken a look at  the collaboration, please do and add your comments
15:12:00 <serverascode> *collaboration session
15:12:27 <serverascode> should be an interesting session :)
15:13:19 <serverascode> and that is all I know about the summit/forum :)
15:13:26 <jamemcc> Yeah - good - agreed that's our shared duty as members of this WG - to make that session good
15:14:38 <serverascode> jamemcc how are things going with the LCOO?
15:15:29 <serverascode> mostly requirements gathering type work so far?
15:15:53 <jamemcc> You and Adrien are in this presenation - you must know about it as well:
15:15:59 <jamemcc> https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18076/
15:17:06 <serverascode> yeah we were working on that this morning :)
15:17:41 <jamemcc> LCOO - yeah we are trying to get into the Joint Requirements writing mode:  Big areas for us and we are trying to identiy and contribute to sessions in Boston are in Cotnainerized Control Plan, Destructive Testing, Skip Level Upgrades - Nirvana Stack
15:18:15 <serverascode> Destructive Testing, I like it :) will have to read up on that
15:18:50 <SergeM> containerized control plane - can you point me to that session(s)?
15:18:57 <jamemcc> In general it means your Cloud seems to be runign well then start pulling pieces down and see if it can keep going
15:19:18 <SergeM> chaos monkey?
15:19:27 <serverascode> was just going to say that :)
15:19:39 <jamemcc> Yeah
15:20:09 <serverascode> where are people going to be spending most of their time at the summit? forum? presentations? other?
15:20:12 <serverascode> a mix of everything?
15:20:21 <jamemcc> Trying to get our requreiments in place before we get to far into solutioning - very aware there are good solutions
15:22:05 <serverascode> jamemcc are you going to try to do the table thing you did at the operators meetup?
15:22:19 <serverascode> where LCOO people hung around the same area
15:22:33 <jamemcc> Anyone interested to help us - main session to work is this one:
15:22:35 <jamemcc> https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18777/users-operators-adoption-of-qa-tools-plugins
15:22:57 <jamemcc> We didnt' get a Forum Session specifically on the topic
15:23:54 <jamemcc> It really is a mix: though our desire is to do real work in the Forums
15:24:53 <jamemcc> The Presenations in my mind and the way we are tracking them as LCOO are really to get some ideas outr there and then hopefully tracnsition any Q&A to point out the Forum session (or WG) to take the conversation to
15:25:28 <serverascode> ok, cool
15:25:40 <serverascode> any other thoughts or should I move onto the next topic?
15:25:52 <jamemcc> We have an LCOO plannign pad here: You need to hve an Atlassian Cloud Account - but shouldn't be any problem to see it: https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LCOO/Large+Contributing+OpenStack+Operators++Queens+Forum+Planning+Pad
15:26:19 <serverascode> #link  https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LCOO/Large+Contributing+OpenStack+Operators++Queens+Forum+Planning+Pad
15:26:34 <jamemcc> Thanks
15:26:48 <serverascode> np, I messed up a couple links above lol
15:27:02 <serverascode> ok onto the other topic, then open discussion
15:27:19 <serverascode> #topic Documentation Meetup
15:27:46 <serverascode> basically I would like to propose that we have some kind of in person documentation meeting perhaps co-located with another event
15:28:16 <serverascode> such as the openstack operators meetup in Aug in Mexico or similar
15:28:32 <serverascode> and that we could have some discussions next week and perhaps get some foundation help on taht
15:28:50 <serverascode> mostly around this #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/generic-nfv-platform
15:28:57 <ad_rien_> serverascode:  can you elaborate a bit more
15:29:07 <ad_rien_> ok
15:29:08 <ad_rien_> thanks
15:29:39 <serverascode> I know that shintoro was talking to someone from the foundation and there is some interest in NFV documentation
15:29:57 <serverascode> and also the fact that there is no current multi-region/site docs AFAIK
15:30:18 <serverascode> I know we don't have a lot of people in the meeting today, but I just htought I would float that idea
15:30:19 <ad_rien_> did they  put back the previous documentation ?
15:30:31 <serverascode> I don't think so, but haven't checked in a couple weeks
15:30:43 <jamemcc> Yeah I agree we need to have more of working sessions to advance it and that this WG is the right place
15:31:08 <serverascode> they used to do documentation sprints
15:31:18 <serverascode> where they'd meetup for a few days and just write docs
15:31:25 <serverascode> I think it might be something good to do
15:31:44 <serverascode> where "they" is the openstack community
15:32:14 <serverascode> it would be nice at some point to get a bunch of NFV openstack people in a room together :)
15:32:36 <serverascode> though that said I'm not sure what groups like the LCOO are doing in that area, and essentially OPNFV is a big version of that
15:33:22 <serverascode> I might get in contact with Shintaro and see what he thinks
15:33:35 <serverascode> is anyone interested in being part of an attempt to organize?
15:33:38 <jamemcc> Yeah - maybe we need to hve a plannign session for the face to face first
15:33:48 <serverascode> absolutely :)
15:33:54 <jamemcc> Shintaro and I can try to bring others from LCOO
15:34:20 <SergeM> I wouldnt mind being involved. But probably I would not be able to attend any F2Fs
15:34:33 <serverascode> thanks SergeM :)
15:34:42 <jamemcc> I'm sure OPNFV lads will come to talk about what they've already got and how it might fit into their plans
15:34:49 <serverascode> jamemcc should we try to find a time (somehow) next week to discuss?
15:34:55 <jamemcc> leads (not lads)
15:34:56 <SergeM> I am also wondering how this doc effort differs from OPNFV. Where OPNFV is trying to get reqs and then fill any gaps within OpenStack projects
15:35:52 <serverascode> I agree SergeM, to me it doesn't matter much where the docs live as long as they exist and are accessible :)
15:36:05 <serverascode> actually I was pointed to some great multisite docs last week from the OPNFV
15:36:07 <SergeM> If you have any casual meetup sometime during next week, keep me in the loop. My email is on the pad
15:36:08 <jamemcc> Yes - I'll send a note to the OPNFV leads I know and copy you in attempt to have a plannign session in Boston - if not maybe at least to come to a subsequent session
15:36:26 <serverascode> ok, that sounds great jamemcc :)
15:36:27 <SergeM> thanks
15:36:55 <serverascode> ok, great, so we will start with that and see where it goes next week
15:37:14 <serverascode> any other thoughts on that particular subject or I can move onto open discussion?
15:37:41 <serverascode> I'll give it 30 seconds
15:37:42 <serverascode> :)
15:38:06 <serverascode> #topic open discussion
15:38:13 <serverascode> so that was all I had so far
15:38:38 <serverascode> any open discussion ideas/comments/criticisms? :)
15:38:59 <ad_rien_> nothing from my side
15:39:17 <serverascode> everyone's mind is in next week already :)
15:39:19 <ad_rien_> I hope we will find a fruitful way to converge all these efforts around mutli site deploymensts
15:39:29 <ad_rien_> during the next summit
15:39:35 <SergeM> Thanks. Hope to meet you guys next week.
15:39:38 <serverascode> yeah I hope so too, its an important topic
15:39:47 <serverascode> thanks SergeM :)
15:40:22 <serverascode> ok well, thanks everyone for coming today, have a safe trip to the summit if you are going, and hopefully see you there :)
15:40:22 <jamemcc> I appreciate you both taking that lead, will do al I can to help.
15:40:33 <jamemcc> See you there
15:40:43 <serverascode> thanks jamemcc!
15:40:48 <serverascode> #endmeeting