21:30:38 <DevonBoatwright> #startmeeting ops_guide 21:30:40 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 11 21:30:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is DevonBoatwright. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:30:41 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:30:43 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ops_guide' 21:31:07 <DevonBoatwright> Hello everyone! 21:31:14 <darrenc> hello! 21:31:22 <DevonBoatwright> Is there anyone here now? I accidentally started the meeting an hour early a bit ago 21:31:29 <DevonBoatwright> Oh hi darren! 21:32:12 <DevonBoatwright> Anyone else here? 21:32:19 <darrenc> It doesn't look like it 21:33:28 <DevonBoatwright> Hmm. 21:33:35 <DevonBoatwright> Want to still go ahead with the meeting? 21:33:57 <darrenc> we could wait a few minutes 21:34:08 <DevonBoatwright> Yea.. okie 21:34:40 * darrenc quickly updates the agenda 21:36:17 <DevonBoatwright> LOL! I noticed that from before! 21:39:03 <DevonBoatwright> OK.. so... 21:39:14 <DevonBoatwright> Maybe we should just get started? 21:39:25 <DevonBoatwright> on our one sided conversation? heehee 21:39:29 <DevonBoatwright> Did anyone else join? 21:39:30 <darrenc> Is it worthwhile? 21:39:34 <rcaballeromx> I am here. 21:39:39 <DevonBoatwright> Oh hello! 21:39:44 <rcaballeromx> Hi. 21:40:23 <DevonBoatwright> darren, I am still showing agenda for July. Is it updated? 21:41:04 <rcaballeromx> Maybe I am out of line, but what is the purpose of this meeting? 21:41:18 <darrenc> refresh your page now 21:41:22 <darrenc> hi rcaballeromx 21:41:29 <rcaballeromx> Hi darrenc 21:42:37 <darrenc> essentially discuss the progress of the Ops Guide and Arch Guide in relation to the newton deliverables 21:43:10 <rcaballeromx> Ok, got it, thanks. 21:43:14 <DevonBoatwright> #topic Previous meeting action items 21:43:45 <DevonBoatwright> there's the bug spotlight. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457767 21:43:45 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1457767 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to KATO Tomoyuki (kato-tomoyuki) 21:44:13 <DevonBoatwright> Oh that;s cool.. I've seen it pop up who the bug is assigned to 21:44:37 <DevonBoatwright> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457770 21:44:38 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1457770 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 21:44:38 <darrenc> yep, so we've had some volunteers to help out with the bugs 21:44:51 <darrenc> which is great 21:44:59 <DevonBoatwright> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457768 21:44:59 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1457768 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 21:45:04 <DevonBoatwright> Yes, that's awesome! 21:45:15 <DevonBoatwright> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1499114 21:45:15 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Fix released] 21:45:50 * rcaballeromx is looking at those... 21:46:26 <darrenc> Here's one I'm working on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1359722 21:46:26 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1359722 in openstack-manuals "Show complete workflow when provisioning an instance" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Darren Chan (dazzachan) 21:47:22 <darrenc> but I'll need someone who understands the topic in more detail to help 21:47:56 <darrenc> I've a pinged a few ppl 21:48:09 <DevonBoatwright> ok. Yes, these all look more technical 21:48:55 <DevonBoatwright> I haven't had much success in finding or recruiting people to help. Sorry. 21:49:30 <rcaballeromx> Bug 1499114 looks like something I can do. 21:49:30 <openstack> bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499114 21:49:48 <DevonBoatwright> Oh nice! That would be great 21:50:11 <DevonBoatwright> Should we move on or any questions about the bugs? 21:50:21 <darrenc> hmm, why does it say "Fixed released"? 21:52:13 <darrenc> It's not fixed 21:52:25 <DevonBoatwright> Interesting. Can it be changed back? 21:52:48 <DevonBoatwright> It doesn't let me edit the status of it 21:52:50 <darrenc> yep, done 21:53:10 <DevonBoatwright> Cool. Shall we move on? 21:53:26 <DevonBoatwright> #topic Ops Guide 21:53:38 <darrenc> one thiong 21:53:42 <darrenc> thing* 21:53:47 <DevonBoatwright> Oh.. whoops. 21:54:06 <DevonBoatwright> #topic Previous meeting action items 21:54:35 <darrenc> rcaballeromx: you can get in touch with edgar magana if you need help 21:54:57 <darrenc> with that bug 21:55:00 <rcaballeromx> Will do. 21:55:05 <darrenc> thanks :) 21:55:06 <rcaballeromx> I am assigning it to me. 21:55:18 <DevonBoatwright> darren.. do I do the action item tag at the end of the meeting or can I do it now? 21:55:23 <darrenc> cool, thanks 21:55:35 <darrenc> you can do it now 21:55:37 <darrenc> :) 21:55:59 <DevonBoatwright> #action rcaballeromx to pick up bug 1499114 21:55:59 <openstack> bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499114 - Assigned to Rodrigo Caballero (rodrigo-caballero-abraham) 21:56:48 <DevonBoatwright> okie. Done. Should I change topic now? 21:57:23 <darrenc> sure 21:57:29 <DevonBoatwright> #topic Ops Guide 21:57:53 <DevonBoatwright> So there is a bullet here about providing more Enterprise ops documentation 21:59:01 <DevonBoatwright> Darren, maybe you can chat more about that? 21:59:20 <rcaballeromx> What exactly does that entail? 21:59:47 <darrenc> yeah, shilla mentioned she was going to do that 22:00:28 <darrenc> rcaballeromx: shilla has been providing enterpise ops documentation in a google doc 22:00:43 <DevonBoatwright> ok. She is at a Mirantis conference right now so couldn't be at the meeting. 22:00:51 <rcaballeromx> Ok. 22:01:00 <darrenc> I've been extracting contact and migrating it to the ops guide 22:01:12 <darrenc> content* 22:02:20 <darrenc> troubleshooting content seems to generate a lot of input from operators 22:02:59 <darrenc> DevonBoatwright: can you put that as an action item for shilla? 22:03:41 <DevonBoatwright> Sure thing.. action to provide more enterprise ops documentation in google doc? 22:03:58 <darrenc> yep, thanks 22:04:19 <DevonBoatwright> #action Shilla to provide more enterprise ops documentation in google docs 22:04:40 <DevonBoatwright> #topic Arch Guide 22:05:02 <DevonBoatwright> So there is a work items wiki page here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Architecture_Design_Guide_restructure_work_items 22:05:50 <darrenc> So the arch guide working group has been meeting up weekly 22:06:27 <rcaballeromx> Are any of the chapters already done? 22:06:38 <darrenc> the plan is to pair up sme/writer and focus on a few areas in the Arch Guide 22:07:21 <darrenc> ...in short sprints. Dates TBD 22:07:47 <darrenc> rcaballeromx: not yet 22:08:05 <rcaballeromx> Ok, so that content does not exist yet, correct? 22:08:26 <rcaballeromx> Sorry for the questions, but I just want to make sure I follow properly. 22:08:28 <darrenc> Yes there is some content 22:09:09 <darrenc> np 22:09:46 <darrenc> There is an Arch Guide that's published, but we are restructuring and rewriting the guide 22:10:10 <rcaballeromx> I get that. 22:10:22 <darrenc> We attempted to do this in Mitaka, but didn't quite get there 22:10:48 <darrenc> and then some cloud architects have come onboard to help 22:11:02 <darrenc> and proposed a new spec for Newton 22:11:19 <darrenc> So we are working on the guide based on the spec 22:11:27 <darrenc> let me find the link 22:11:40 <rcaballeromx> I would consider Chapter 2 Use Cases to be the most crucial. 22:12:18 <rcaballeromx> However, no one seems to be on it, or am I reading the wiki wrong? 22:13:11 <darrenc> yeah, there is some content in there 22:13:32 <rcaballeromx> Ok. 22:13:42 <darrenc> I've been migrating mitaka changes in the relevant section 22:13:48 <darrenc> sections* 22:13:59 <rcaballeromx> darrenc: Feel free to assign me some stuff where you think I can help. 22:14:07 <darrenc> that would be great! 22:14:34 <darrenc> You're welcome to join the Arch Guide meeting as well 22:14:43 <darrenc> thanks! 22:14:48 <rcaballeromx> No problem. 22:14:55 <rcaballeromx> Do you have a link to that meeting? 22:16:06 <darrenc> yeah, it's on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide 22:16:24 <darrenc> we meet on VIdyo 22:16:46 <rcaballeromx> Ok. 22:16:52 <rcaballeromx> I will join next time. 22:17:06 <darrenc> cool, thanks rcaballeromx 22:17:36 <DevonBoatwright> #topic Open Discussion 22:17:47 <rcaballeromx> You are welcome, darrenc 22:18:19 <DevonBoatwright> Ops midcycle- Do we need an ops guide session? 22:19:23 <darrenc> Do you know if anyone on this team is going to the midcycle? 22:19:35 <darrenc> Is shilla going? 22:20:00 * rcaballeromx is not going. 22:20:17 <DevonBoatwright> Where is it? 22:20:19 * darrenc is not going 22:20:22 <darrenc> NY 22:21:00 <darrenc> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups 22:21:25 <DevonBoatwright> No.. I don't think Shilla is going. We're going to OpenStack East 22:21:31 <DevonBoatwright> this is right after, correct? 22:21:41 <darrenc> We can add it as a suggestion to the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-meetup 22:22:04 <darrenc> but there's not much point if no one on this team is going 22:22:24 <DevonBoatwright> I don't think anyone else I know of on the team is going 22:22:57 <darrenc> yeah, 25-26 August 22:23:10 <darrenc> ah ok 22:24:54 <darrenc> Well I'll add to the etherpad anyway 22:25:27 <darrenc> and if there's a session, I can chat to a few ppl who are going 22:26:31 <darrenc> oh, someone has proposed some docs discussion on the etherpad 22:27:50 <darrenc> line 80 22:28:21 <darrenc> anyway, that's it from me 22:28:39 <DevonBoatwright> just noticed that.. was reading the etherpad 22:29:22 <DevonBoatwright> Ok.. Well, thanks for joining the meeting darrenc and rcaballeromx! 22:29:34 <darrenc> thanks DevonBoatwright 22:29:36 <DevonBoatwright> If no one else has anything, I will end meeting. We have one minute left anyway 22:29:40 <rcaballeromx> Thanks. 22:29:42 <DevonBoatwright> See you all next meeting! 22:29:46 <DevonBoatwright> #endmeeting