21:30:38 #startmeeting ops_guide 21:30:40 Meeting started Thu Aug 11 21:30:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is DevonBoatwright. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:30:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:30:43 The meeting name has been set to 'ops_guide' 21:31:07 Hello everyone! 21:31:14 hello! 21:31:22 Is there anyone here now? I accidentally started the meeting an hour early a bit ago 21:31:29 Oh hi darren! 21:32:12 Anyone else here? 21:32:19 It doesn't look like it 21:33:28 Hmm. 21:33:35 Want to still go ahead with the meeting? 21:33:57 we could wait a few minutes 21:34:08 Yea.. okie 21:34:40 * darrenc quickly updates the agenda 21:36:17 LOL! I noticed that from before! 21:39:03 OK.. so... 21:39:14 Maybe we should just get started? 21:39:25 on our one sided conversation? heehee 21:39:29 Did anyone else join? 21:39:30 Is it worthwhile? 21:39:34 I am here. 21:39:39 Oh hello! 21:39:44 Hi. 21:40:23 darren, I am still showing agenda for July. Is it updated? 21:41:04 Maybe I am out of line, but what is the purpose of this meeting? 21:41:18 refresh your page now 21:41:22 hi rcaballeromx 21:41:29 Hi darrenc 21:42:37 essentially discuss the progress of the Ops Guide and Arch Guide in relation to the newton deliverables 21:43:10 Ok, got it, thanks. 21:43:14 #topic Previous meeting action items 21:43:45 there's the bug spotlight. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457767 21:43:45 Launchpad bug 1457767 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to KATO Tomoyuki (kato-tomoyuki) 21:44:13 Oh that;s cool.. I've seen it pop up who the bug is assigned to 21:44:37 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457770 21:44:38 Launchpad bug 1457770 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 21:44:38 yep, so we've had some volunteers to help out with the bugs 21:44:51 which is great 21:44:59 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457768 21:44:59 Launchpad bug 1457768 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 21:45:04 Yes, that's awesome! 21:45:15 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1499114 21:45:15 Launchpad bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Fix released] 21:45:50 * rcaballeromx is looking at those... 21:46:26 Here's one I'm working on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1359722 21:46:26 Launchpad bug 1359722 in openstack-manuals "Show complete workflow when provisioning an instance" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Darren Chan (dazzachan) 21:47:22 but I'll need someone who understands the topic in more detail to help 21:47:56 I've a pinged a few ppl 21:48:09 ok. Yes, these all look more technical 21:48:55 I haven't had much success in finding or recruiting people to help. Sorry. 21:49:30 Bug 1499114 looks like something I can do. 21:49:30 bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499114 21:49:48 Oh nice! That would be great 21:50:11 Should we move on or any questions about the bugs? 21:50:21 hmm, why does it say "Fixed released"? 21:52:13 It's not fixed 21:52:25 Interesting. Can it be changed back? 21:52:48 It doesn't let me edit the status of it 21:52:50 yep, done 21:53:10 Cool. Shall we move on? 21:53:26 #topic Ops Guide 21:53:38 one thiong 21:53:42 thing* 21:53:47 Oh.. whoops. 21:54:06 #topic Previous meeting action items 21:54:35 rcaballeromx: you can get in touch with edgar magana if you need help 21:54:57 with that bug 21:55:00 Will do. 21:55:05 thanks :) 21:55:06 I am assigning it to me. 21:55:18 darren.. do I do the action item tag at the end of the meeting or can I do it now? 21:55:23 cool, thanks 21:55:35 you can do it now 21:55:37 :) 21:55:59 #action rcaballeromx to pick up bug 1499114 21:55:59 bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499114 - Assigned to Rodrigo Caballero (rodrigo-caballero-abraham) 21:56:48 okie. Done. Should I change topic now? 21:57:23 sure 21:57:29 #topic Ops Guide 21:57:53 So there is a bullet here about providing more Enterprise ops documentation 21:59:01 Darren, maybe you can chat more about that? 21:59:20 What exactly does that entail? 21:59:47 yeah, shilla mentioned she was going to do that 22:00:28 rcaballeromx: shilla has been providing enterpise ops documentation in a google doc 22:00:43 ok. She is at a Mirantis conference right now so couldn't be at the meeting. 22:00:51 Ok. 22:01:00 I've been extracting contact and migrating it to the ops guide 22:01:12 content* 22:02:20 troubleshooting content seems to generate a lot of input from operators 22:02:59 DevonBoatwright: can you put that as an action item for shilla? 22:03:41 Sure thing.. action to provide more enterprise ops documentation in google doc? 22:03:58 yep, thanks 22:04:19 #action Shilla to provide more enterprise ops documentation in google docs 22:04:40 #topic Arch Guide 22:05:02 So there is a work items wiki page here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Architecture_Design_Guide_restructure_work_items 22:05:50 So the arch guide working group has been meeting up weekly 22:06:27 Are any of the chapters already done? 22:06:38 the plan is to pair up sme/writer and focus on a few areas in the Arch Guide 22:07:21 ...in short sprints. Dates TBD 22:07:47 rcaballeromx: not yet 22:08:05 Ok, so that content does not exist yet, correct? 22:08:26 Sorry for the questions, but I just want to make sure I follow properly. 22:08:28 Yes there is some content 22:09:09 np 22:09:46 There is an Arch Guide that's published, but we are restructuring and rewriting the guide 22:10:10 I get that. 22:10:22 We attempted to do this in Mitaka, but didn't quite get there 22:10:48 and then some cloud architects have come onboard to help 22:11:02 and proposed a new spec for Newton 22:11:19 So we are working on the guide based on the spec 22:11:27 let me find the link 22:11:40 I would consider Chapter 2 Use Cases to be the most crucial. 22:12:18 However, no one seems to be on it, or am I reading the wiki wrong? 22:13:11 yeah, there is some content in there 22:13:32 Ok. 22:13:42 I've been migrating mitaka changes in the relevant section 22:13:48 sections* 22:13:59 darrenc: Feel free to assign me some stuff where you think I can help. 22:14:07 that would be great! 22:14:34 You're welcome to join the Arch Guide meeting as well 22:14:43 thanks! 22:14:48 No problem. 22:14:55 Do you have a link to that meeting? 22:16:06 yeah, it's on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide 22:16:24 we meet on VIdyo 22:16:46 Ok. 22:16:52 I will join next time. 22:17:06 cool, thanks rcaballeromx 22:17:36 #topic Open Discussion 22:17:47 You are welcome, darrenc 22:18:19 Ops midcycle- Do we need an ops guide session? 22:19:23 Do you know if anyone on this team is going to the midcycle? 22:19:35 Is shilla going? 22:20:00 * rcaballeromx is not going. 22:20:17 Where is it? 22:20:19 * darrenc is not going 22:20:22 NY 22:21:00 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups 22:21:25 No.. I don't think Shilla is going. We're going to OpenStack East 22:21:31 this is right after, correct? 22:21:41 We can add it as a suggestion to the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-meetup 22:22:04 but there's not much point if no one on this team is going 22:22:24 I don't think anyone else I know of on the team is going 22:22:57 yeah, 25-26 August 22:23:10 ah ok 22:24:54 Well I'll add to the etherpad anyway 22:25:27 and if there's a session, I can chat to a few ppl who are going 22:26:31 oh, someone has proposed some docs discussion on the etherpad 22:27:50 line 80 22:28:21 anyway, that's it from me 22:28:39 just noticed that.. was reading the etherpad 22:29:22 Ok.. Well, thanks for joining the meeting darrenc and rcaballeromx! 22:29:34 thanks DevonBoatwright 22:29:36 If no one else has anything, I will end meeting. We have one minute left anyway 22:29:40 Thanks. 22:29:42 See you all next meeting! 22:29:46 #endmeeting