15:01:11 <mrhillsman> #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team 15:01:12 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Feb 28 15:01:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:13 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:17 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' 15:01:34 <mrhillsman> #topic RollCall! 15:01:57 <mrhillsman> anyone here for the ops meetup meeting? 15:02:31 <raddaoui> hi I am here :) 15:03:02 <mrhillsman> today's agenda - #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 15:03:06 <izaakk> o/ 15:03:29 <mrhillsman> will give everyone a few more minutes :) 15:04:26 <mihalis68> I'm here but my day already involves the words "backups" "restore" and "disclose" 15:04:55 <VW> hey mrhillsman - have a conflicting meeting with my whole team today at 9:15. Sorry that I won't be much help this week 15:05:05 <VW> let me know if I need to work on anything 15:05:30 <mrhillsman> thx 15:05:46 <mrhillsman> mihalis68 and VW for the update 15:06:08 <mrhillsman> #topic Review Last Week's Action Items 15:06:18 <mrhillsman> so everything from last week was completed 15:06:53 <mrhillsman> zioproto did you get any response/feedback from the ML/usergroups 15:07:44 <zioproto> hello 15:07:47 <zioproto> thanks for pinging me 15:07:51 <mrhillsman> welcome 15:07:51 <zioproto> no I did not get any response 15:07:57 <mrhillsman> ok cool 15:08:13 <emccormick> o/ sorry for the lateness 15:08:15 <zioproto> the mailing list is pretty silent 15:08:43 <mrhillsman> no worries, thanks for reaching out to them 15:09:00 <mrhillsman> hopefully though silent they signed up via eventbrite 15:09:13 <mrhillsman> moving on to the next one 15:09:16 <mrhillsman> #topic Milan 15:09:21 <raddaoui> I got back 4 responses from the french openstack mailing that they are coming. I can try same with the german 15:09:23 <mrhillsman> we have 82 folks now :) 15:09:32 <mrhillsman> nice raddaoui 15:09:40 <mihalis68> Just FYI Tom is on vacation else might have given us an Eventbrite count 15:09:41 <mrhillsman> you did mention that, totally forgot 15:09:55 <mrhillsman> please proceed with reaching out to german groups/ML 15:09:56 <mihalis68> Oh nice! 15:10:02 <raddaoui> sure 15:10:09 <mrhillsman> yeah, he sent via his notice he was on vacay 15:11:04 <mrhillsman> it would probably be good to go ahead and do another email this week 15:11:07 <mrhillsman> we are like right there 15:11:19 <mrhillsman> 11 more since the last meeting 15:11:35 <mrhillsman> we are just 18 away from full house 15:12:03 <mrhillsman> #action mrhillsman send another email to ML to encourage sign up 15:12:13 <mrhillsman> for the schedule 15:12:24 <mrhillsman> all the etherpads i knew to create have been created 15:12:29 <mrhillsman> and the moderators reached out to 15:12:44 <mrhillsman> if we can please review to make sure i did not miss anything that would be great 15:12:52 <mrhillsman> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup 15:12:56 <mrhillsman> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup 15:13:24 <mrhillsman> additionally if we can encourage folks to start adding stuff to them that would be good too 15:13:31 <mrhillsman> and some folks have already grabbed sessions 15:13:47 <mrhillsman> each one listed on the spreadsheet have confirmed they will do the session(s) assigned 15:13:58 <mrhillsman> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=2006054635 15:14:08 <mrhillsman> but we still have some gaps 15:14:13 <mrhillsman> which i assume folks will fill 15:14:36 <mrhillsman> but one thing discussed with the UC and PWG folks is having some actionable items to take away from the sessions 15:14:46 <izaakk> mrhillsman: what kind of gaps? 15:14:51 <mrhillsman> otherwise we are just having expensive conversations :) 15:15:03 <emccormick> wasn't there someone from the Cinder team coming that could cover that Cinder session? 15:15:06 <mrhillsman> gaps for moderators 15:15:15 <mrhillsman> that would be great 15:15:19 <mrhillsman> i did not know 15:15:35 <emccormick> They were the one that suggested the session. I forget who it was though. 15:15:41 <emccormick> looking... 15:15:45 <mrhillsman> thx 15:16:20 <mrhillsman> i only added folks who confirmed via email 15:16:26 <mrhillsman> i may have missed one or two :) 15:16:40 <emccormick> smcginnis 15:16:45 <mrhillsman> ah ok 15:17:02 <mrhillsman> i can hit sean up 15:17:07 <mrhillsman> just to confirm 15:17:11 <mrhillsman> thank you sir 15:17:18 <emccormick> np :) 15:17:39 <mrhillsman> i'll check for any nova folks who will attend and in general for the others 15:17:46 <mrhillsman> just a few so i do not think we will have an issue 15:18:19 <mrhillsman> on a side note, back to the having some actionable items, i'm going to also work to grab stuff from previous midcycles 15:18:29 <mrhillsman> and anything extra i can find to assist with filling out the etherpads 15:18:43 <mrhillsman> any help along those lines (primarily from moderators) would be great :) 15:18:51 <mrhillsman> anything else for Milan? 15:19:17 <mrhillsman> mariano does not look to be here but i think things are going as needed for sponsorships 15:19:40 <mrhillsman> i am waiting to hear back from rackspace on the evening event but not sure how that will turn out at this point being so close 15:20:13 <mrhillsman> moving on :) 15:20:22 <mrhillsman> #topic Mid-Year Mid-cycle 15:20:43 <mrhillsman> izaakk can you provide an update on this one 15:21:08 <izaakk> So, I sent out emails last week. Guadalajara hasn't confirmed any details yet 15:21:12 <mrhillsman> i know you made contact with a great organization in Mexico City 15:21:16 <izaakk> Mexico city 15:21:19 <izaakk> is more likely to happen 15:21:28 <izaakk> they will send me a list of possible venues this week 15:21:34 <mrhillsman> awesome 15:21:58 <izaakk> I'll follow up and take Guadalajara as a backup 15:22:07 <mrhillsman> perfect 15:22:20 <izaakk> Will share as soon as I hear back from them 15:22:28 <mrhillsman> #action izaakk to follow up with Mexico City for Mid-year and Guadalajara as backup 15:22:36 <mrhillsman> ty sir 15:22:45 <izaakk> anytime :) 15:22:47 <mrhillsman> on to the next one :) 15:22:56 <mrhillsman> unless someone has questions? 15:23:22 <mrhillsman> #topic Boston Forum 15:23:34 <mrhillsman> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-UC-brainstorming 15:23:47 <mrhillsman> an email went out from the UC requesting that operators participate heavily in this 15:24:41 <mrhillsman> we will probably have to do a lot more encouraging/prodding so to everyone here who can send an email to just one and encourage them to email another we can get this going i think quickly 15:25:35 <mrhillsman> any questions/concerns around the forum? 15:26:07 <emccormick> my brain hurts from this too much to think about that yet :D 15:26:09 <mrhillsman> if i am moving to fast let me know :) 15:26:11 <mrhillsman> haha 15:26:40 <mrhillsman> ok cool moving along 15:26:52 <mrhillsman> #topic Reginal event discussions 15:26:58 <mrhillsman> #topic Regional event discussions 15:27:38 <mrhillsman> we had an interesting discussion started here 15:27:41 <mihalis68> I suppose late October would be too late for the mid-cycle if in Mexico City (I'm an F1 fan and there's a race there!) 15:27:42 <mrhillsman> anything to follow up on? 15:27:50 <mrhillsman> hehe 15:28:12 <mrhillsman> yeah, probably too late mihalis68 :( 15:28:15 <emccormick> Yeah considering SYD is the first week of November ;) 15:28:18 <mihalis68> heh yeah I know :) 15:28:39 <mrhillsman> i think we can table this until maybe after Milan 15:28:47 <mrhillsman> thoughts? 15:29:10 <mihalis68> As I recall I said I would pull together a Wiki page on openstack.org to connect the mid-cycles and the other events in one place 15:29:11 <emccormick> I think that's fine. At some point we need to circle back to working up our process on a wiki 15:29:12 <izaakk> For the regional thing, I guess we can figure something out to scout the region and what are their interests/needs? 15:29:21 <mihalis68> I think that dropped off the actions list but I'm still up for it 15:29:25 <emccormick> I think that's step 1 for any fostering of regional events 15:29:35 <mihalis68> action me again? 15:29:42 <mrhillsman> #action mihalis68 pull together a Wiki page on openstack.org to connect the mid-cycles and the other events in one place 15:29:52 <mrhillsman> #chair mihalis68 15:29:52 <openstack> Current chairs: mihalis68 mrhillsman 15:29:58 <mrhillsman> ohh it does work :) 15:30:32 <mrhillsman> ok cool 15:30:37 <mihalis68> nice! 15:30:54 <mihalis68> I have rights on that wiki so it's easy enough and it's a very nice looking wikki 15:30:57 <mrhillsman> agreed izaakk and we should probably have that on the wiki 15:31:14 <mrhillsman> good stuff mihalis68 looking forward to it 15:31:27 <mihalis68> initially we were going to list known things so mid-cycles and the APAC events in China and Japan discussed previously 15:32:06 <mrhillsman> #action mrhillsman start a google doc to capture ideas regarding regional events and ops support 15:32:36 <mrhillsman> i'll grab the thoughts from last week as well that shintaro shared and we can consolidate/aggregate in prep for the wiki page 15:32:56 <mrhillsman> maybe have like a best practices or how-to section 15:33:10 <mrhillsman> he had some good thoughts on what worked for them in JP 15:33:24 <mrhillsman> anything else on this one? 15:33:57 <mrhillsman> #topic Themed Mid-cycle 15:34:24 <mrhillsman> again, i think something we should probably create a shared doc for and capture thoughts ideas 15:34:37 <izaakk> +1 15:34:40 <mrhillsman> i think we were generally in agreement on the idea being workable though not specific on the implementation 15:34:58 <emccormick> indeed 15:35:00 <mrhillsman> cool 15:35:18 <mrhillsman> #action mrhillsman create shared doc to capture thoughts regarding themed mid-cycle 15:35:33 <mrhillsman> #topic Open Discussion 15:35:40 <mrhillsman> we are at the end of the agenda 15:35:58 <mrhillsman> anything anyone would like to circle back around to or new to bring up? 15:36:20 <mihalis68> I'm gonna guess you didn't find out anything notable about tooling possibilities for this team? 15:36:31 <mihalis68> I didn't and I keep meaning to 15:36:42 <mrhillsman> i did not pursue the conversation unfortunately 15:36:51 <mrhillsman> i will do so when tom is back, cool? 15:36:56 <mihalis68> that's ok, neither did anyone else 15:36:58 <mrhillsman> apologies mihalis68 15:37:01 <mrhillsman> hehe 15:37:14 <johnthetubaguy> where is the best place to advertise some nova specs from the PTG that would be worth a look? is the mailing list best for that? 15:37:15 <mrhillsman> but we talked about this and i did volunteer to lead it 15:37:38 <mrhillsman> how soon do you need them looked at johnthetubaguy 15:37:51 <mihalis68> I'm gonna go offtopic and boast here. No progress on operators tooling, however Bloomberg is now all OpenStack Liberty!! 15:38:00 <johnthetubaguy> ideally fairly soon, to get input before the get approved 15:38:07 <mrhillsman> yeah, ML best 15:38:26 <mrhillsman> i'll send a reminder every couple days too :) 15:38:36 <mrhillsman> i'm ok with playing the annoying guy 15:38:38 <johnthetubaguy> mrhillsman: you thinking about the ops meetup thing in milan as the alternative I guess? 15:38:45 <mrhillsman> yeah 15:38:54 <mrhillsman> i did not know how soon you wanted eyes on them 15:38:59 <emccormick> Congrats mihalis68! Welcome back to the other side of EOL? :D 15:39:03 <mrhillsman> hehe 15:39:10 <mihalis68> we will go mitaka more quickly 15:39:10 <mrhillsman> indeed congrats mihalis68 15:39:21 <mihalis68> engineering is done adapting that for us for the most part 15:39:35 <mihalis68> we want to be on the most recent release that's got some mileage and proving out 15:39:41 <mihalis68> like it wouldn't be ocata just yet 15:39:55 <johnthetubaguy> mrhillsman: do you know if we have a Nova person going to milan to discuss them with you all? 15:40:09 <mrhillsman> i do not but took action during this meeting to find out 15:40:16 <mrhillsman> i could sure use your help to find out :) 15:40:24 <mrhillsman> and would love for them to lead the related session 15:40:49 <johnthetubaguy> the problem was in the PTG feedback session, like three people put their hands up saying they had budget approval / were going to milan 15:41:02 <johnthetubaguy> yeah, I don't know of any cores going there sadly 15:41:30 <johnthetubaguy> I could probably vidyo conference in to answer questions, if thats possible, given its in my timezone (almost) 15:41:36 <johnthetubaguy> anyways, can take that offline 15:41:42 <emccormick> I'm always -1 on releases, but thanks to the short Ocata release I'm -2 for the first time in a while. Kinda bummed about it actually ;) 15:41:48 <mrhillsman> yes, let's discuss friday johnthetubaguy ? 15:41:58 <mrhillsman> right before or shortly after meeting? 15:42:12 <mrhillsman> maybe give us a couple of days to find someone if possible 15:42:18 <johnthetubaguy> mrhillsman: can do, I will try get that ML post out soon ish, list of specs is on the way 15:42:25 <mrhillsman> awesome, ty sir 15:42:45 <emccormick> I wouldn't think it'd be a big deal to throw a single skype session up on the screen either 15:42:47 <mrhillsman> #action mrhillsman to follow up with johnthetubaguy regarding nova in milan 15:43:02 <mrhillsman> it would be awesome if we could emccormick 15:43:06 <johnthetubaguy> emccormick: yeah, 1:m is possible like that 15:43:07 <emccormick> remote moderating with someone local to act as your hands ;) 15:43:22 <mrhillsman> sounds like a plan to me :) 15:43:31 <mrhillsman> will check with mariano on the logistics 15:43:36 <johnthetubaguy> the many people remote to many people in the room totally doesn't work, but yeah 1:m has worked for us in Nova in the past 15:44:02 <emccormick> yeah one remote to many local shouldn't be a problem 15:44:12 <johnthetubaguy> honestly, just at the end of the phone line, with an OK mic would be fine 15:44:12 <mrhillsman> #action mrhillsman check with mariano on milan logistics for 1:m remote 15:44:12 <emccormick> no special equipment needed really 15:44:26 <johnthetubaguy> by phone line, I mean laptop, lol 15:44:29 <mrhillsman> hehe 15:44:32 <mrhillsman> i was about to say 15:44:51 <johnthetubaguy> anyways, we can explore options on that 15:45:00 <mrhillsman> indeed, thx for dropping in johnthetubaguy 15:45:08 <mrhillsman> anything else folks 15:45:29 <mrhillsman> i can give you back 15 minutes :) 15:45:37 <emccormick> btw on the many to many topic, I'm going to remotely attend the next ARIN meeting. I'm mainly curious how they pull it off 15:45:58 <mrhillsman> let us know 15:46:19 <mrhillsman> i think remote is a great option to have 15:46:20 <emccormick> I'd rather go to New Orleans, but I just can't justify it ;) 15:46:32 <mrhillsman> lol 15:46:51 <mrhillsman> going to end meeting if nothing else 15:46:59 <emccormick> +1 15:47:03 <mihalis68> +1 15:47:11 <mihalis68> thanks for chairing mrhillsman! 15:47:11 <mrhillsman> alright, thanks everyone! 15:47:15 <mrhillsman> most welcome :) 15:47:24 <mrhillsman> you was a chair too :) 15:47:26 <mrhillsman> #endmeeting