14:11:43 #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team 14:11:44 Meeting started Tue Jul 18 14:11:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:11:45 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:11:47 The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' 14:12:01 Anyway, let's do this. Let's start the meeting for the record. I can provide an update and we should have as action items to chase people. Let's do our last push to make this community great again! 14:12:02 :-) 14:12:08 #topic very poor attendance of weekly IRC meet is causing this team to evaporate 14:12:38 emagana can I give you an action to communicate with the mexico organizers and work out how to meet with them effectively? 14:12:46 a different time slot and/or technology? 14:12:57 slack, email, even voice call could be considered 14:13:07 (the meeting is underway) 14:14:04 Yes, go ahead. 14:14:22 I will come back via ML with a proposal to have them in the meeting. 14:14:32 #action emagana to to communicate with the mexico organizers and work out how to meet with them effectively? (time and tech choice, slack email etc) 14:14:44 I want to know who initially propose Mexico as host for the Ops Meet-up? Do we have an operator there? 14:15:31 As I recall it was some intel employees down there? Isaac? 14:15:43 after the Oregon proposal was withdrawn 14:17:07 we need some company behind it 14:17:13 a good operator/sponsor 14:17:26 yes, but you have to have things for people to sponsor 14:17:35 The folks over there helpin with the logistic are doing great work but I feel we need a good sponsor 14:17:44 you can't just say "please sponsor" it has to be things like : food, $1000 14:18:03 This has been my consistent concern - there is no hosting organization involved with openstack 14:18:25 it has been a "virtual host" because the venue is free and volunteers want it to happen 14:18:36 however for it to succeed someone has to take ownership and MAKE it happen 14:18:54 I've been unable to help as much as I would like this time - combination of personal and work issues recently 14:19:15 same here 14:19:20 there has been some talk about SuSE I believe. They have an office there, right? 14:19:33 I am doing my best to attend this meeting at 7am plus my working activities, right now I am multi-tasking 14:19:35 I think emcormick had some contacts 14:20:06 I have complete sympathy - I just wish people would speak up and say "this meeting would be better later" or "can we change the day" 14:20:20 Yes and I ahve seen them in the slack but no at all of push from there 14:20:56 you realize that slack is a bit of an impediment to everyone else right? I am not invited so I imagine most of the regulars here are also not able to join there 14:21:01 at least this is completely open 14:21:05 no offense intended 14:21:29 I mean there's a slack, I hear, and perhaps chat there, but nothing here 14:21:32 that's not a team :| 14:22:02 understood, furthermore we keep the conversation in Spanish 14:22:19 but I rather ask them to join this IRC meeting than going to slack 14:22:31 I will follow up with them. 14:22:36 ok perfect 14:22:38 no offense taken 14:22:40 * 14:22:41 I think we can still rescue this 14:22:42 :-) 14:22:44 :) 14:23:00 I try to speak more bluntly there than I really want to, to make sure of conveying my point 14:23:13 that's fine.. at least with me 14:23:29 anyway, more status about Mexico Meet-up: 14:23:40 if you do interest them in IRC, please offer flexibility on time and day of week. I can at least try to bridge the gap (attend two meetings even) 14:24:08 The sponsorship flyer is "almost" ready. #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1-3O1KwY8xNpYkHQYBlUvMZgvVk8wkPsKbttZ8mCB5zs/edit?usp=sharing 14:24:50 can we target some sponsors? Do we have a list of companies/people to target? 14:25:15 I can write to the mailing list asking for people to sponsor 14:25:19 I was planing to chase: Suse, Canonical, Intel and Kio Networks 14:26:04 Bloomberg may be able to pick up a small one 14:26:36 oh hey guys 14:26:38 I think the mailing list should reach some people in possible sponsoring companies 14:26:44 hello 14:26:48 was wondering if this was happening ;) 14:26:54 quick summary, this meeting has been almost dead for weeks 14:26:54 hi sorry I'm late 14:26:57 no worries 14:27:15 the problem: mexico volunteers discuss the event in spanish on slack and do not attend this meeting 14:27:29 but without the hosts energizing this meeting, it's dying 14:27:29 yes I see that this meeting isn't working well 14:27:44 I have asked emagana to see if a different day and time slot might work 14:28:15 I am willing to attend an additional IRC weekly or whatever to get this back up to speed 14:28:20 I am attending Mexico, by the way 14:28:31 I saw the etherpad for MEX and saw all the agenda was refreshed 14:28:43 mind you, the prospectus (link above) looks good and may help get things moving 14:28:57 the worry is that it is getting late to make travel arrangements ( I plan to make mine today for example) 14:29:02 it got put back? I had a panic attack yesterday 14:29:10 last time I did not see a lot of activity in the etherpad i will check 14:29:19 did it disappear? 14:29:30 all the session suggestions were gone 14:29:35 haven't looked at it this morning yet 14:29:49 I saw it today and saw only one line 14:29:51 what???? suggestions are gone? 14:29:57 let me check 14:30:00 no they're gone still 14:30:10 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup 14:30:21 WTH!!!! 14:30:26 need to get people to put in again. Good lord 14:30:35 don't suppose infra backs those up do they? 14:30:51 if you go back the timeline you can get them back 14:31:17 who can repair it> 14:31:22 but wasn't sure it was deleted for purpose or not 14:31:22 ? 14:31:38 if you know how, put it back :) 14:31:51 definitely was not supposed to be deleted 14:31:54 #action mihalis68 to try to repair ops meet up etherpad 14:32:24 ok now we have a few more people : i have asked emagana to reconnect the mexico organizers with this meeting or let's change this meeting 14:32:28 he's agreed 14:32:38 how is registration going? I can't see how many tickets are left anymore 14:32:47 if you have a burning need for a different day, timeslot or tech (email? slack?) please speak up 14:32:55 emagana said only 10 so far 14:32:55 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup/timeslider#1704 14:33:03 done repairing 14:33:24 ah ok, thanks 14:33:24 Thanks a lot shintaro 14:33:37 Yes, last time I check we were only 10 registered 14:33:39 talking of repairing, our weekly agenda ether pad thought we have been meeting in 2016 14:34:10 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 14:34:19 I am scribbling an agenda whilst we chat 14:34:36 yikes 14:35:10 anyone here going but not yet bought a ticket? 14:35:27 my team is working on internal approval so will buy the ticket soon 14:35:28 I"m going and have my ticket 14:35:39 good to know 14:35:42 i registered last night 14:35:54 3 from my team 14:35:58 emagana when did you last look? 14:36:03 for the prospectus, from experience you need to provide the details of the exact vendor to pay 14:36:05 a week ago 14:36:23 oh I think I only registered within past week, we may be up to 12 or more 14:36:56 Yes, we can provide more details but first we need the initial catch :-) once we have people interested we will provide more details. 14:37:10 I will ask to sponsor on of the smaller ones today 14:37:22 and then they will say "maybe, who would we pay?" :) 14:37:42 please add your name if you are attending today's meeting : 14:37:45 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 14:37:46 that part I do not know. 14:37:54 how was done last time? 14:37:59 in Milan for instance? 14:38:17 Mario was able to tell us the food vendor, we paid them directly - credit card over the phone I think 14:38:33 (Bloomberg sponsored phone in milan even though I couldn't' go!) 14:39:24 food, we sponsored FOOD 14:39:45 oh 3 from NTT, Shintaro? That's great! 14:40:05 yes. getting final approval 14:41:06 yay 14:41:19 I'll see if I can bring someone else form my team since attendance is low and I have new people 14:41:28 nice mihalis68 14:41:31 great! 14:41:32 #action all of us to get the word out about this event 14:41:44 I have not received approval for my own trip 14:41:58 I am considering to take PTO and be my own sponsor 14:44:14 wow, that's commitment! :) 14:44:36 15 minutes left of this meeting 14:44:42 nothing more from my side. 14:45:27 I suggest when you finish discussing how to connect mexico team with us, you could email. Certainly I would like to move faster than weekly irc meeting at this critical phase. You have my email in your inbox 14:46:41 mihalis68: send me an email with the list of people that we need to cc in the email 14:47:03 well I can only really speak for myself and, I guess, Tom? 14:47:13 people who want the email? o/ 14:47:22 ok.. I will send it to the operators mailing list and I will cc Tom 14:47:28 I don't even know if Tom is able to attend 14:47:33 mostly the Mexico team 14:47:34 yes operators mailing list 14:48:35 which hotel are people who are fully booked staying at? 14:48:40 I might try to book same place 14:48:57 especially if I go solo (which is still likely) 14:50:08 can help with both travel in an unfamiliar city and with having someone nearby for end of evening chat perhaps 14:50:12 I thought there were suggested hotels on etherpad. 14:50:30 sure 14:50:38 just wondering if anyone wanted to mention a specific one 14:50:53 i'm checking 14:51:15 Hotel Galeria Plaza Reforma 14:51:22 Marquis Reforma seems to be very close to the location of the event 14:51:28 thanks, I will look at those ones 14:51:33 http://www.marquisreforma.com/default-es.html 14:51:44 I was too far away from the Barcelona summit location and it was a big pain 14:51:52 thanks both of you 14:52:38 we have 10 minutes left. I presume APAC meet up is relatively in much better shape given how much time there is before that one - no need to discuss today when mexico is at risk? 14:52:44 hi VW 14:52:59 coming to mexico? 14:53:55 I think that grand fiesta seemed very close also 14:54:05 there's easy and super cheap uber there though ;) 14:54:27 is there uber in MC? 14:54:28 (sorry, in 2 meetings at once) 14:54:31 yes 14:54:33 no worries 14:54:48 uber there is great 14:54:49 seems like we've covered all topics we are going to manage today 14:54:50 any more? 14:54:52 no language barrier 14:55:23 I don't have anything extra. Who is doing the list barrage? 14:55:41 We are thinking of NH Collection Mexico City Reforma Hotel 14:55:57 I will ping the list promoting the event 14:56:03 cool! 14:56:05 since I am going 14:56:16 I'll also tweet about it 14:56:19 tack on to do session suggestions too 14:56:24 those of you connected to me on twitter might retweet that 14:56:26 it's wicked light right now 14:56:39 first priority is attracting more people 14:56:51 people who are going will then be more motivated to work on the agenda and perhaps moderate 14:56:56 *nod* 14:57:01 agree 14:57:41 #action mihalis68 to promote the upcoming event in mexico on the mailing list and social media 14:58:08 I have one topic to suggest, which is docs for older openstack versions 14:58:15 because we are on Liberty 14:58:26 I'll ut it on the ether pad and see if anyone +1s 14:58:29 *put 14:58:52 ok. Last call 14:59:15 API docs is also hard to figure out which version supports which API versions 14:59:27 completely agree 14:59:50 +1 15:00:02 #endmeeting