14:25:16 <mihalis68> #startmeeting ops-meetup-team
14:25:17 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jun  5 14:25:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:25:20 <emccormick> Cadzow sowrry
14:25:21 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'
14:25:29 <mihalis68> we're effectively doing this without doing it, so...
14:25:30 <emccormick> dcadzow@redhat.com
14:25:48 <mihalis68> no prepared agenda today
14:26:00 <mihalis68> things discussed so far : meeting cadence and restarting the docs process
14:26:12 <mihalis68> for the docs process, mihalis68 will refocus the email thread
14:26:27 <mihalis68> #action mihalis68 to try and wake the docs thread up and refocus
14:27:03 <mihalis68> #info jproulx had volunteered to look into a new repo for the docs coming out of core docs
14:27:09 <mihalis68> (ha guide, arch guide, operators guide)
14:27:32 <mihalis68> I'm up for working on those docs (all of them)
14:28:02 <mihalis68> #info a gentleman from redhat (Derek Kadzow) had mentioned his team could also contribute
14:28:21 <mihalis68> #info Adam Speirs had also said he could rewrite the HA doc if he could expect success in landing the changes
14:28:39 <mihalis68> #topic meeting cadence
14:28:54 <mihalis68> I think there was some support for reverting the meetings to bi-weekly until we get near an event
14:28:59 <mihalis68> all: thoughts?
14:29:26 <VW> I think that makes a lot of sense to me
14:29:27 <emccormick> yes let's go to every 2 weeks
14:29:40 <emccormick> we can discusss reverting in August
14:29:51 <mihalis68> so next week? Or two weeks from now?
14:30:08 <mihalis68> would it help if we actually did meeting invites for the core team? I am offering to do so
14:30:22 <emccormick> Yes apparently we need reminders
14:30:25 <VW> that would be great
14:30:28 <emccormick> especially if we're going to 2 weeks
14:30:33 <VW> but my email for Openstack stuff is going to change
14:31:01 <VW> so, hold off on adding me to any till next week when the new one is up and working :)
14:31:11 <mihalis68> ok, so as "person who often chairs" (the most formal description that I think fits) I'll undertake to keep the core team (as per the wiki) supplied with calendar entries for these meetings.
14:31:22 <mihalis68> it helps to fight for your time for this activity vs. your day jobs
14:32:10 <mihalis68> ok so for now myself erik melvin shintaro
14:32:20 <mihalis68> I would add Sean, but he's not on the team page
14:32:32 <emccormick> Maybe he should be ;)
14:32:32 <mihalis68> he has a lot of official openstack responsibility already obviously
14:32:39 <mihalis68> I'll ask him! :)
14:32:51 <VW> yeah - he's such an great contributor to this
14:32:56 <mihalis68> #action mihalis68 to see if sean will accept being on the official core ops meetups team roster
14:33:04 <VW> and I'll get you the @salesforce email as soon as I have it
14:33:23 <mihalis68> I agree. feels like he's on the team, but pushing responsibility on others is not right in this context
14:33:30 <mihalis68> VW great.
14:33:54 <emccormick> Should we talk Denver for a moment?
14:33:59 <mihalis68> So we're trying to do a formal meeting next week then, but after that every other week?
14:34:24 <emccormick> I think 2 weeks from today is sufficient
14:34:55 <mihalis68> Ok, 1 vote for bi-weekly from today and no other votes. Motion carried :)
14:35:03 <mihalis68> #topic Denver PTG/Ops Meetups
14:35:37 <emccormick> So I'm wondering if it's possible to get a headcount of ops-ish registrants
14:35:40 <mihalis68> I don't even know if I'll be going yet
14:35:58 <emccormick> to see where we're at. We used to be able to see but obviously we won't control the Eventbrite this time.
14:36:01 <mihalis68> We could perhaps do a SurveyMonkey survey asking for "interest"
14:36:04 <VW> Lauren and Jimmy were going to pull a list of opish registrants
14:36:07 <VW> I'll ping them
14:36:19 <VW> jamesmcarthur: ^ :D
14:36:51 <emccormick> we should probably send an [ADHD] email to the ops list with a nudge for people
14:36:56 <mihalis68> interest in attending 2 days, 5 days etc would be good
14:36:58 <emccormick> if not now, then soon
14:37:27 <emccormick> that seems fine. We used something for a poll before for locations
14:37:31 <jamesmcarthur> VW: I'll take another look at registrants
14:37:35 <emccormick> I forget now what the thing was
14:38:18 <emccormick> Hi Jimmy
14:38:39 <emccormick> I wasn't able to register early bird sadly, but I am still planning on going
14:39:10 <emccormick> He who approves things ignored me for a month :P
14:39:43 <emccormick> Anyone remember what the poll thing we used was?
14:40:11 <emccormick> Oh there it is. Doodle
14:40:12 <mihalis68> surveymonkey?
14:40:19 <mihalis68> oh that's the one, ignore me
14:40:42 <emccormick> Anyone have an account?
14:41:07 <mihalis68> IIRC melvin did one location poll for an ops meetup
14:41:33 <mihalis68> I think it's free though (from a v.quick look just now)
14:42:30 <mihalis68> what questions are we looking to ask the community?
14:43:02 <emccormick> just interest guaging
14:43:05 <emccormick> gauging
14:43:09 <mihalis68> something like [] not interested [] interested in 2 days (ops) []interested in 5 days (full ptg)?
14:43:24 <emccormick> exactly
14:43:35 <mihalis68> ok I'll do it
14:43:51 <emccormick> We can encourage folks to express interest so we don't have to wait for registration to find out
14:43:54 <mihalis68> #action mihalis68 to poll operators community on interest in Denver PTG
14:44:29 <emccormick> We should probably also spam it out beyond the ops list since, for some reason, there are lots of Ops not on the Ops list
14:44:58 <mihalis68> yep. I guess it would be ok to fwd to openstack dev?
14:45:07 <emccormick> Maybe just a quick refresher on what the deal is with the meetup this time around, a reminder that it comes with 2 free summit passes
14:45:32 <emccormick> could go to just openstack also
14:45:42 <mihalis68> I can check with Sean whether that use of openstack dev is within AUP
14:45:43 <emccormick> dev can probably be skipped as they'll have their own PTG spam
14:45:49 <jamesmcarthur> emccormick sorry about the slow approval process for your PTG pass :\
14:46:51 <emccormick> jamesmcarthur: NP. It was a wicked short early-bird. It was bound to happen ;).
14:47:18 <emccormick> Life at a startup. Any email mentioning money is summarily ignored for long periods of time.
14:47:51 <mihalis68> ok, so openstack-operators and some other openstack list? Sorry, not on any others (I can't really deal with my email inbox as it is)
14:48:22 <VW> Operators is probably the right place to start
14:48:23 <emccormick> The main openstack@ list
14:48:35 <VW> and/or that ^
14:48:48 <emccormick> There are a number of newer operators that go there and don't even know the ops list exists
14:48:58 <emccormick> I'd say both are reasonable
14:49:01 <mihalis68> ok
14:49:43 <emccormick> and I'll tweet it out once it's up. Not that my list of followers is large or anything, but why not
14:49:58 <mihalis68> ok, so this is the last meeting for two weeks. Is there any other business we should cover now?
14:49:58 <VW> I will tweet the same
14:50:22 <emccormick> Gotta get it all over or else they'll see a squirrel and forget to vote ;)
14:50:24 <mihalis68> #action vw emccormick to tweet the doodle poll once created
14:50:34 <mihalis68> #action mihalis68 to create the doodle poll
14:51:09 <emccormick> I have nothing else for now.
14:51:16 <mihalis68> oh I actioned myself twice, derp
14:51:21 <mihalis68> (for the poll)
14:51:27 <emccormick> derp derp
14:51:39 <mihalis68> last call for any other business
14:51:55 <mihalis68> #endmeeting