15:04:00 #startmeeting ops-meetup-team 15:04:01 Meeting started Tue Dec 11 15:04:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:04:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:04:03 hello 15:04:05 The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' 15:04:07 who's around? 15:04:24 Rounder by the year. 15:04:47 ha ha 15:04:58 I didn't prepare the agenda beforehand, just throwing something together now 15:05:04 o/ 15:05:22 o/ 15:05:23 sorry, was idling in the wrong channel ;) 15:05:41 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 15:05:44 #topic actions 15:06:01 o/ 15:06:09 Great turnout today. 15:06:25 Hey Simon! 15:06:54 I was supposed to email Frank Kloeker about the status of their offer, but I dont think I did. It turns out they are the only hosts offereing, so we mainly have to agree which dates work best and then get the community to agree it 15:06:58 hi Simon! 15:07:24 Dates were end of Feb or second week of March? 15:08:06 Oh, nope, I'm way off. :) 15:08:13 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-1st-2019-berlin 15:08:13 Think it was last week of feb and first week of march 15:08:15 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-1st-2019-berlin 15:08:55 I see it looks like that etherpad was updated to state two rooms have actually been reserved. 15:09:00 huh. That changed 15:09:13 Yeah, looks like the second date line changed too. 15:09:24 i wonder if they adjusted the dates a bit. Now it's 6th and 7th or 7th and 8th of March 15:09:32 So the week of March 6th. 15:09:35 yeah 15:10:07 I was also due to follow-up on Bloomberg hosting the second 2019 meeting. I'm still in discussion about, but no update to share 15:10:13 any other actions to report on? 15:10:23 So Wednesday - Thursday or Thursday - Friday 15:10:55 I think I would prefer the latter since I could make use of my travel time by having the saturday in berlin. I have a friend there 15:11:49 Would be nice to have a couple days in Berlin. 15:12:24 oddly I think that actually improves the flight availability a bit for me. 15:12:32 so we do favor the Thur/Fri pair? 15:12:32 Doing it Thursday / Friday. 15:12:47 Either works for me. 15:12:55 any other comments? 15:13:04 Also less missed work by travelling home on the weekend. Make bosses happy 15:13:10 Might be nice to have it mid week if folks don't want to use the weekend for travel days, but either way. 15:13:15 we're only a small band but we can still say the early consensus is thur/fridy 15:13:19 That's a good point emccormick 15:13:23 Fine with me! 15:13:26 ++ 15:13:54 Late but here! 15:13:57 I do one leg of travel at the weekend where possible. it's not so much keeping my boss happy as minimising the away time 15:14:01 spotz! 15:14:01 hi spotz! 15:14:18 other actions we had from before 15:14:20 #agreed those attending favor the Thur/Friday pair of dates 15:14:22 mrhillsman to suggest to superuser editor and jeremy stanley an article about the mailing list merge 15:14:28 #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-unifies-mailing-lists/ 15:14:35 heh 15:14:49 that posted a couple of days ago I think 15:14:55 super! 15:15:11 smcginnis will look into moving the arch guide to enable others to update it going forwards 15:15:22 Guessing that is pending given your travels 15:15:25 he can give us an update on all that in next topic, if htats ok? 15:15:35 it's in flight AFAIK 15:15:40 You're going to speak fluent German by next summer 15:15:53 any other updates from those attending on past actions? 15:15:56 fine with me :) 15:16:14 #topic ops docs 15:16:29 smcginnis how's this going? I think you've been pretty busy! 15:16:40 #link https://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/ 15:16:42 Done@ 15:16:46 ("this" being the move of doc 3 into the sig) 15:16:53 hash applause 15:17:06 It has been officially registered as sig-owned and the source has been moved to its own repo. 15:17:08 sweet 15:17:09 Nice 15:17:20 I had an action to set up a meeting for the ops docs sig. Not done yet, sorry 15:17:31 #link http://github.com/openstack/arch-design 15:17:46 Several updates in there so far too for translations and other updates. 15:18:10 nice work. 15:18:25 emccormick volunteered last week for some work on the operations guide IIRC 15:18:33 Does anyone have a preferred tool for editing RST so you can see what it looks like without doing a build? 15:18:39 I can't wait to rej^wreview it 15:18:54 I did. I'm going to work on stripping off that deployment section in favor of a lighter thing with references to other docs 15:18:55 I've seen a couple decent online editors. 15:19:15 I expect to work on that over the holidays while bored in BFE Pennsylvania at my in-laws 15:19:54 excellent. I'm looking forward to it. on a personal note I'm going to mildly subvert a chromebook to have a linux co-install and get the build environment for OS docs up in there 15:19:55 I have some old emacs habits that have led me to install an RST module into it, but I haven't tried it out yet 15:19:59 nasty I know 15:20:18 oh I'm an Emacs user and I'm not ashamed 15:20:23 All you really need is git and git-review 15:20:30 no need for devstack and all that goo 15:20:37 and my trust -2 button mwhahaha 15:21:03 ok ops docs is picking up speed and I need to catch up 15:21:18 I have to buy sean and erik beers for that. Maybe in Berlin (again!) 15:21:25 #topic 2019 meetups 15:21:26 :) 15:21:49 someone remind me, are we trying to agree the Berlin proposal by one week from today? 15:22:11 I think so, right? 15:22:21 Let's go for it 15:22:31 Make it so. ;) 15:22:32 I believe that's what we decided to give ample time for people to butter up their significant others over the holidays :D 15:22:41 seems reasonable 15:22:50 and ample time for DT to plan 15:22:58 #action mihalis68 to mail the community suggesting the Thur/Fri slot be approved for meetup #1 2019 15:23:11 especially being dt has already reserved and they own the building ;) 15:23:28 we've tried using polls to get guidance rom the "ops community" but honestly I don't think it worked 15:23:34 and mention proposals for meetup 1 close Tuesday morning 15:23:35 we got like 17 responses 15:24:08 mihalis68_: 17 isn't a bad response:( 15:24:14 so I say we follow the sentiment expressed here, favoring the Thursday/Friday and suggesting that the DT proposal is otherwise a fine one and should be declared officially accepted next week 15:24:43 sounds good 15:24:57 any objections? 15:24:58 +1 15:25:19 mrhillsman? 15:25:20 +1 15:25:35 vw? 15:25:45 (not that I've seen him today here but I can hope) 15:25:57 mrhillsman is here with me and is good with the plan. 15:26:12 ok then I've already actioned myself to mail the list 15:26:36 btw I finally read the rules about the combined mailing list and I love how our [subject] is now just {ops}. Seems so easy... 15:26:46 [topic] I guess 15:27:05 so easy...for people to filter out hehe 15:27:21 Yep! 15:27:23 I already mentioned the second global meetup (in progress at my employer) 15:27:34 the only other meetup item is the potential openstack day at CERN 15:28:11 We had a drop-in last week by someone who runs a Toronto meetup that had interest in holding an event at some point 15:28:24 nothing more than an interest, but perhaps they'll need some help one day 15:28:43 yes, true. I've also got very early tentive discussions about reviving something in NYC, but too early to say much about it 15:29:36 should we ask Belmiro if they are going to formally offer something? I'm not sure we're needed to sanction or organise it, but perhaps we can offer to help 15:29:49 yes i am, sorry 15:30:06 Any assistance we could provide, I think that would be good. 15:30:17 Even just amplifying things. 15:30:37 Maybe just let him know we're here to assist if and when they decide to formalize something 15:30:43 Simon I wonder would you care to pick up the subject with Belmiro? 15:30:44 ++ 15:30:59 You're at least in a similar time zone 15:31:08 simon-AS559 I mean 15:31:11 i’m still down to wrangle moderators 15:31:26 I can contact Belmiro. 15:31:48 That would be a counter-proposal to the meeting in Berlin in March? 15:31:51 ok great. the message is we'd like to help, and also setting a date and making a commitment enables real planning 15:32:11 No they don't compete at all. CERN is pondering a one-off single day "openstack dat" 15:32:15 openstack day 15:32:18 OK, right. 15:32:22 Happy to offer our assistance. 15:32:49 and their timing is fairly close to the summit, so it would not fit the ops meetups guidelines too well as a replacement for berlin anyway 15:32:56 Late May was their target I think 15:33:13 mrhillsman moderators and technical agenda planning should start as soon as we lock in berlin 15:33:17 was like 3 weeks post-summit 15:33:34 I'm excited to get to that point soon and ensure a higher chance of a high quality event 15:34:40 #action simon-AS559 to contact Belmiro Moreira (CERN) to find out if they are ready to set a date and commit to an openstack day at CERN 15:34:48 with the offer of help from the meetups team 15:36:02 any more comments on upcoming meetups? 15:36:14 Nope 15:36:19 I just took a "temperature reading" with my boss. Me attending Denver is a given 15:36:19 none here 15:36:26 China, for me, is a bit of a stretch 15:36:37 I think it will be a stretch for many. 15:36:55 I'd skip all the rest if it gave me a shot at that one ;) 15:37:07 for me it's not budget or time so much as there has been some difficulty between parts of my employer and china in the past 15:37:15 * smcginnis has to step away for a while 15:37:29 ^ 15:37:31 plenty of time to discuss that later. I may have to rely on erik for that one 15:37:42 ttyl boys 15:37:42 peoples time is valuable, so 15:37:45 #topic any other business 15:37:49 I think a lot of stackers might pass on China from the US 15:38:10 Hong Kong would have been a lot easier I think 15:38:12 I'd actually love to go, my daughter has ok Mandarin 15:38:19 especially given certain...political situations 15:38:38 do we even know what city yet? 15:38:39 I feel like things like openstack should strive to balance out the political shenanigans. Anyway 15:38:43 China is a big place 15:38:55 like space? (apologies to douglas adams) 15:39:04 hehe 15:39:17 ok final call. Think we got through everything we needed to 15:39:20 All future events in Switzerland 15:39:29 +1 15:39:51 #endmeeting