14:00:24 <mihalis68_> #startmeeting ops-meetup-team
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14:00:26 <mihalis68_> hello
14:00:29 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'
14:00:36 <mihalis68_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team
14:00:46 <mihalis68_> ping shintaro
14:01:02 <mihalis68_> #topic actions
14:01:16 <mihalis68_> I fully expect this meeting to be very lightly attended
14:01:39 <mihalis68_> so I'm going to just plough through as a lot of the work needed now is etherpads, agenda slots, moderators etc
14:01:51 <spotz> Can't believe the meetup is in 2 weeks!
14:01:56 <mihalis68_> I made a start on the etherpads - we have three posted and tweeted
14:02:08 <emccormick> I am here. Idle uncouple minutes. Will catch up
14:02:17 <mihalis68_> yes 2 weeks is a little scary, although we have been in much worse shape at this stage in previous rounds
14:02:40 <mihalis68_> another action I had which I forgot was to contact thingee about it
14:02:50 <mihalis68_> I just did that but I have to say it's a little late now
14:02:57 <mihalis68_> however there are some redhat people coming
14:03:06 <mihalis68_> attendance is right on 40 people currently
14:03:34 <spotz> wow that's a nice number, helps for NYC to be a large city
14:03:44 <mihalis68_> I also had an action to ask attendees about sponsoring the social
14:03:50 <mihalis68_> I emailed everyone but no response so far
14:03:57 <mihalis68_> I will do that one more time
14:04:15 <mihalis68_> #action mihalis68_ to repeat the call for a sponsor for the social
14:05:08 <mihalis68_> shintaro had an action to contact horace li about space for the ops to meet in shanghai
14:05:16 <mihalis68_> I don't see him here today but he's coming in september!
14:05:25 <mihalis68_> any other progress to report?
14:05:31 <spotz> mihalis68_: Maybe reach out too Rain see if RDO can sponsor?
14:06:06 <spotz> mihalis68_: I had contact Erin a while ago, when I saw her at the b-day thing I know ops wanted space
14:06:06 <emccormick> How are we on session count vs. Time slots?
14:06:33 <emccormick> Do we need to throw some other proposals up just to vote on at the event to fill holes?
14:06:41 <mihalis68_> we can have a near infinite number of sessions, given we have 3 nice rooms
14:07:09 <mihalis68_> I don't think we'll fill all 3 rooms solidly for two days
14:07:10 <mihalis68_> but that's ok
14:07:12 <emccormick> Well just so long as we have enough to fill a single track
14:07:16 <mihalis68_> oh yeah
14:08:08 <mihalis68_> I plan to convert the remaining topics that are popular (multiple +1s) to etherpads and start asking for moderators this week as well as start throwing them into an order to see how it looks
14:08:44 <emccormick> K cool
14:08:54 <mihalis68_> I don't know Rain, so I'd be a little reluctant to reach out "hey you don't know me, can you get money for..."
14:09:00 <mihalis68_> we do have julia and _med registered
14:09:03 <emccormick> I have an action item to actually book a hotel ;)
14:09:09 <mihalis68_> so redhat "knows" about this event officially
14:09:26 <mihalis68_> #topic NYC meetup
14:09:27 <emccormick> With these close ones I seem to do them like you. Everything last minute
14:09:40 <spotz> mihalis68_: I know she's at a conference this week:(
14:09:41 <mihalis68_> what else do we need to do before the day?
14:10:11 <emccormick> I think that pretty much covered it
14:10:48 <mihalis68_> is anyone planning on helping with the etherpads?
14:10:55 <emccormick> Are we going to meet up Sunday evening?
14:10:56 <mihalis68_> *pregnant glance at erik*
14:11:07 <spotz> hehe
14:11:13 <emccormick> I will grab a couple when we are dine here
14:11:16 <spotz> I'll cheer you all on from here
14:11:34 <emccormick> Will put initials by the ones I'm working on
14:11:39 <mihalis68_> I'll be in town I expect, but note that the event is the Tuesday and Wednesday
14:11:50 <emccormick> Sorry habit
14:11:55 <emccormick> Monday
14:12:14 <emccormick> I'll be coming from PA by train I think
14:12:33 <mihalis68_> is it bad of me to be looking at Labor Day as the perfect "finish the agenda" time?
14:12:36 <emccormick> Ye Olde Keystone service
14:13:04 <mihalis68_> train? or web service?
14:13:09 <emccormick> Whatever works for you. I'll be outside chasing my kids and sweating
14:13:19 <emccormick> Choo choo
14:13:25 <mihalis68_> I'm confused now...  you're coming on sunday?
14:13:26 <emccormick> Not identity
14:13:29 <emccormick> Hehe
14:13:31 <mihalis68_> heh bad joke
14:13:35 <emccormick> Monday
14:13:52 <mihalis68_> I'll certainly be up for a gentle gathering the night before, yes
14:13:58 <emccormick> Well it's the appropriate way to come to an Openstack event
14:14:03 <emccormick> On the Keystone
14:14:18 <mihalis68_> On the Train, drinking a Stein
14:14:24 <spotz> oh boy
14:14:27 * jproulx groans
14:14:31 <mihalis68_> yeah sorry, moving on
14:14:42 <mihalis68_> we've got our work cut out
14:14:46 <mihalis68_> but still have the time
14:14:51 <mihalis68_> #topic shanghai
14:15:18 <mihalis68_> Erik shared a link for a way to get the business visa for a trip to china last time I was on here (can dig it out if anyone wants)
14:15:38 <mihalis68_> unfortunately there's still no news on whether there will be an ops meetup during the summit
14:15:47 <mihalis68_> or at least, we still don't have space for that
14:16:05 <spotz> I know space is tight, haven't heard back from Erin if we goot any yet
14:16:36 <mihalis68_> I will email shintaro to chase the idea of getting some directly via the local foundation rep horace
14:16:53 <emccormick> Want to email shintaro and see if he talked to Horace?
14:17:01 <emccormick> Nod
14:17:17 <mihalis68_> #action mihalis68_ followup with Shintaro about whether horace li could find us a room in shanghai
14:18:50 <mihalis68_> I suppose we should propose some forum sessions irrespective of an ops meetup
14:19:23 <emccormick> I don't think the system has opened yet
14:19:32 <mihalis68_> how did the forum sessions in denver go? I didn't make that summit unfortunately
14:19:34 <emccormick> So that should be a meetup session
14:19:41 <emccormick> Forum planning
14:19:54 <mihalis68_> I just recall that for some reason they expect us to close forum submissions when we're still wrapped up in the prior ops meetup
14:19:59 <emccormick> They went very well but were few
14:20:36 <mihalis68_> #action mihalis68_ to add a NYC meetup session for Forum Planning (for Shanghai)
14:20:41 <emccormick> It was all me proposing though
14:20:53 <emccormick> Time ran out for it
14:21:09 <emccormick> This time I think submissions won't end til after the meetup
14:21:18 <mihalis68_> ok that's a bit more sane
14:21:35 <emccormick> If they do I will do as last time and put in a couple placeholders
14:21:52 <mihalis68_> good man
14:22:46 <mihalis68_> I think we may need to look at the structure of team at some point. It appears to have become you, me some help from spotz and smcginnis
14:22:59 <mihalis68_> it's a bit thing
14:23:01 <mihalis68_> thin
14:23:14 <spotz> well happy to help
14:23:15 <mihalis68_> shintaro too
14:23:24 <mihalis68_> no current european help
14:23:39 <mihalis68_> and smcginnis is in a new, different job
14:23:43 <emccormick> And we appreciate you spotz :)
14:23:59 <mihalis68_> although I did notice Dell joined up with AT&T to work on Airship (announced today)
14:24:29 <emccormick> Neat
14:24:40 <mihalis68_> anything else regarding Shanghai?
14:25:07 <emccormick> Nope
14:25:14 <mihalis68_> #topic 2020 meetups
14:25:48 <emccormick> Still on me to send emails asking for Europeans
14:26:00 <mihalis68_> well remembered
14:26:01 <emccormick> Will finishbmy half written email
14:26:17 <mihalis68_> #action emccormick to action the heck out of his actions
14:26:27 <mihalis68_> #topic any other business
14:27:22 <emccormick> Do you want to do a team session in NYC?
14:27:33 <emccormick> Maybe do a little recruiting
14:27:51 <mihalis68_> isn't that "1st evening sesson, both days"? :0
14:28:08 <emccormick> Hehe
14:28:16 <emccormick> I suppose so
14:28:16 <mihalis68_> but seriously it's a good ide
14:28:17 <mihalis68_> but seriously it's a good idea
14:28:56 <mihalis68_> we've got this partial second track of discussing the possibilty of extending these events to officially cover ceph, or splitting off a similar stream all about ceph
14:29:11 <mihalis68_> depending on what people think about that we might have some new recruits
14:29:55 <emccormick> Could help boost attendance for both
14:30:23 <mihalis68_> #action mihalis68_ to add a NYC meetup session on the ops meetup team itself
14:30:36 <emccormick> Will be interesting to see. I have some Ceph bitching to do at any rate
14:30:42 <mihalis68_> given we are just 3, I think that may be it for today
14:30:44 <mihalis68_> final call
14:31:09 <mihalis68_> sorry I missed last week, btw
14:31:24 <mihalis68_> I had thought I might make it, but we were on the road back from Niagara Falls - impromptu road trip!
14:31:39 <emccormick> spots how's yer head? I saw you were back in the saddle again literally and figuratively.
14:31:59 <mihalis68_> ah yes good point. Sorry to hear about that!
14:32:04 <emccormick> Spotz too
14:32:12 <emccormick> much damn phone
14:32:32 <mihalis68_> oh... one more point of order...
14:32:45 <spotz> I'm back riding the older pony, hope to sit on the younger one tomorrow:)
14:32:49 <mihalis68_> in Berlin we ended up not really having a fixed itinerary. Instead we had a list of topics in order
14:33:01 <mihalis68_> and then we chewed through it and took breaks depending on the mood of the room
14:33:04 <emccormick> Glad to hear it
14:33:08 <mihalis68_> me too
14:33:18 <mihalis68_> how do we feel about doing it that way again?
14:33:34 <mihalis68_> it's more like how PTG works
14:33:49 <emccormick> I am all for the free flowing schedule
14:34:21 <mihalis68_> ok cool.
14:34:22 <mihalis68_> me too
14:34:29 <mihalis68_> that removes on source of stress
14:34:41 <mihalis68_> previously getting a fixed agenda locked in literally ruined many nights sleep
14:34:57 <emccormick> That's how these started, so back to our roota
14:35:20 <emccormick> With < 50 people it works better
14:35:32 <mihalis68_> ok cool ... and agreed
14:35:34 <emccormick> With 100+ not so much
14:35:37 <mihalis68_> althhough we might still get some more
14:35:59 <mihalis68_> second final call
14:36:02 <mihalis68_> :P
14:36:10 <emccormick> Close it out
14:37:20 <mihalis68_> #endmeeting