14:00:07 <fifieldt> #startmeeting Ops Meetups Team 14:00:07 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Aug 2 14:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fifieldt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:08 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:11 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team' 14:00:12 <fifieldt> Hello all, and welcome to season seven of the Ops Meetups Team meeting :) 14:00:16 <fifieldt> NB: If you're new, or just idling in the channel, be sure to have read: 14:00:17 <fifieldt> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team 14:00:17 <fifieldt> for background. 14:00:24 <fifieldt> Check out our agenda items at: 14:00:24 <fifieldt> # link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 14:00:31 <fifieldt> As always: please write your name down on the agenda etherpad as a way of introduction, since we're a new crew. 14:00:31 <fifieldt> Secondly, if there's something else burning to put on the agenda, please add it to that same etherpad. 14:00:36 <fifieldt> #topic Review of action items from the previous meeting 14:00:36 <fifieldt> First up, a quick run-through of our action items from the previous meeting. 14:00:50 <fifieldt> .. if I can find the right tab 14:01:03 <fifieldt> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-07-26-13.59.html 14:01:07 <fifieldt> 1/ VW to pull group names off the wiki and arrange an ops 101 by inviting them to join a Q&A style session in Barcelona 14:01:25 <fifieldt> VW, guessing ongoing? I have some news to announce ~soon about the schedule for barcelona anyway 14:01:44 <fifieldt> at least edgar has the emails of the group organisers on the wiki now 14:01:54 <fifieldt> 2/ mrhillsman to write up some proposed steps on how to set up audio 14:01:59 <fifieldt> I think this was done, right? 14:02:02 <mrhillsman> yes 14:02:03 <fifieldt> 3/ mihalis68 to ask Kathryn about hotel room blocks 14:02:03 <VW> yes - I think enough time has past, so I'll ping the UC folks and see if the wiki is updated/final 14:02:10 <fifieldt> answer is: Ask for the bloomberg rate at Fitzpatrick Hotel Lexington Avenue 14:02:16 <fifieldt> 4/ fifieldt to email mihalis68 a sample agenda brainstorming broadcast - DONE 14:02:21 <fifieldt> 5/ mihalis68 to send agenda brainstorming broadcast - DONE 14:02:25 <fifieldt> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2016-July/010951.html 14:02:39 <fifieldt> thanks to mihalis68, VW and mrhillsman 14:02:47 <fifieldt> on to our real agenda 14:02:50 <fifieldt> #topic August Meetup 14:02:51 <mrhillsman> lol 14:02:57 <mihalis68> my full answer was we can't assist with hotel blocks and then that note about the standing discount for BB at Fitz, just to be clear 14:02:58 <mrhillsman> "real" agenda...as if 14:03:04 <fifieldt> So, mihalis68, any updates? 14:03:06 <mihalis68> again sorry 14:03:27 <fifieldt> thanks for sending out the agenda brainstorming! 14:03:34 <fifieldt> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-meetup 14:03:38 <mihalis68> I started putting what appeared to be the most well supported topics onto the timetable 14:03:42 <fifieldt> encourage everyone you can to get there 14:03:57 <fifieldt> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=1046944156 14:03:59 <fifieldt> there's the grid 14:04:32 <fifieldt> Other updates 14:04:39 <mihalis68> one question I spotted just now, there is a thought that containerizing the control plane subsumes Kubernetes 14:04:47 <fifieldt> yeah 14:04:49 <fifieldt> thoughts on that? 14:05:00 <mihalis68> which is apropos as they are both on the itinerary. For me, I think they can both stand 14:05:17 <VW> I would agree 14:05:24 <mihalis68> My own approach to containerization would be a lot more modest than jumping into Kubernetes first 14:05:36 <mrhillsman> should kubernetes be done first however? 14:05:49 <mrhillsman> in terms of the talks 14:06:02 <mihalis68> it is day 2 currently 14:06:05 <mrhillsman> being that if we are expecting it to be part of the containerizing conversation 14:06:21 <mihalis68> I think containerization is broader than kubernetes 14:06:29 <mrhillsman> definitely 14:06:32 <mihalis68> for example Canonical's approach is LXD+ZFS 14:06:36 <mihalis68> no kubernetes 14:06:52 <mihalis68> I put it first because it is on our minds and got the most +1s 14:07:27 <mrhillsman> i gotcha 14:07:48 <fifieldt> ok, seems reasonable 14:07:56 <fifieldt> maybe let's see how the brainstorming etherpad proceeds 14:07:58 <mihalis68> I guess what I would like to hear is just is the itinerary going in the right direction? 14:08:01 <mrhillsman> i was saying in reference to the question you spotted 14:08:36 <fifieldt> so, it normally takes up to 2 weeks to get people to give their feedbnack on the etherpad 14:08:41 <mihalis68> kubernetes is ... gnarly. In texas we were told about openstack on K and vice versa 14:09:09 <mrhillsman> i like the schedule thus far 14:09:25 <mihalis68> I just felt it could have second day first session as it might well be a pretty lively debate and need not be merely one section of containerization 14:09:26 <mrhillsman> and the fact you put forth the effort to start framing it 14:09:30 <fifieldt> +1 14:09:38 <fifieldt> ok, so that's ongoing 14:09:42 <mrhillsman> ^ 14:09:45 <fifieldt> another update is 14:09:50 <fifieldt> we have 86 registered so far 14:09:53 <mihalis68> ok so I'll just move to filling more of the big spaces out this week and I will ping the ad-hoc mailing when there is something to see 14:09:57 <mihalis68> 86! Very nice 14:09:58 <fifieldt> I'm going to get a dump of the registration list and take a look 14:10:03 <fifieldt> maybe poke some people who didn't register 14:10:08 <fifieldt> and make sure there aren't any evil people on there 14:10:13 <mrhillsman> hehe 14:10:20 <mihalis68> ad-hoc mailing list is me emailing the people who seem to be on this chat and willing to get email about progress on the itinerary in detail 14:10:35 <fifieldt> After the agenda brainstorming, then we move to allocating moderators 14:10:40 <fifieldt> which we need at least a couple weeks for 14:10:43 <mihalis68> evil? I wasn't told that would be a problem *MWHAHAHA* 14:10:49 <fifieldt> :D:D 14:10:53 <mihalis68> yes the timetable is tight now 14:10:56 <mrhillsman> ^ 14:11:15 <fifieldt> so, anything else on NYC? 14:11:18 <mihalis68> not to get too off topic, but I have wheels now so personal life all reverting to normal. Can find more time again 14:11:27 <fifieldt> phew, glad to hear 14:11:29 <mrhillsman> great to hear 14:11:53 <mihalis68> I will take an action to follow up things with Kathryn to do with signs, banners. I expect nothing so far, hbut then again I feel operators don't really care? Is that fair? 14:12:07 <fifieldt> I feel that it's important for the sponsorship 14:12:15 <fifieldt> to have something with the company logo 14:12:18 <fifieldt> that looks a bit nice :) 14:12:28 <fifieldt> so people respect the enormous effort of the underwriter 14:12:48 <fifieldt> in terms of printing, agenda handouts go down well too 14:12:49 <mihalis68> Yes I think at a minimum we'll make the itinerary handouts (as designed by our graphic designers, once we finalize) and a big poster thing. That could be done quickly 14:13:09 <fifieldt> VW, s3an2, serverascode, kbringard - any other musings on NYC? 14:13:17 <mihalis68> kathryn recommended I try to get the itinerary in by ... well now actually 14:13:43 <mihalis68> one request from me: anyone not getting gmail last week from me about the itinerary who wants to I can add and of course can remove anyone who doesn't want to 14:13:48 <fifieldt> mihalis68, I am in a US timezone next week - maybe we could aim to smash it out on the phone quickly then 14:13:57 <mihalis68> sure 14:13:59 <VW> I can't think of anything fifieldt 14:14:00 <serverascode> nothing right now, other than you mentioned issues with lunch 14:14:07 <fifieldt> right, Erin is on lunch 14:14:07 <serverascode> not sure if help from the foundation is taking care of that 14:14:10 <fifieldt> should know very soon 14:14:16 <fifieldt> thanks for the reminder serverascode 14:14:24 <fifieldt> #action fifield to followup with Erin about Lunch 14:14:27 <mihalis68> bloomberg is getting it catered, the concern I remember is how much eating space there is 14:14:30 <fifieldt> right 14:14:37 <mihalis68> we're providing breakfast and lunch 14:14:39 <mihalis68> not sure details 14:14:44 <fifieldt> also breakfast! that is awesome 14:14:45 <fifieldt> oh! 14:14:46 <fifieldt> one more! 14:14:49 <fifieldt> important thing! 14:14:52 <fifieldt> Evening event. 14:14:56 <emccormick> mihalis68: Add me if you don't mind. emccormickva@gmail.com 14:15:02 <fifieldt> So, how do we go about organising one of those ? 14:15:05 <mihalis68> ack 14:15:10 <fifieldt> and getting one or more organisations to pay for it? 14:15:40 <mihalis68> we (i.e. Kathryn) are all in after venue and breakfast+lunch so evenings are wide open 14:15:52 <fifieldt> yup, confirmed it needs to be non-bloomberg 14:16:10 <fifieldt> not asking anyone on this meeting to front up the cash 14:16:16 <fifieldt> but perhaps someone can send a blast email 14:16:22 <mihalis68> perhaps that could be mentioned on the [openstack-operators] mailing list? 14:16:25 <fifieldt> asking if any organisation is interested? 14:16:27 <fifieldt> yeah 14:16:32 <fifieldt> can anyone take that action? 14:16:39 <mrhillsman> i'll ask my org 14:16:46 <mihalis68> I'm ducking that one, feels ... not right 14:16:49 <mihalis68> (for me I mean) 14:16:50 <zioproto> Sorry I arrived late for the meeting 14:17:01 <mrhillsman> i can send an email 14:17:21 <fifieldt> mrhillsman, yeah, if you could email ops ML that'd be great :) 14:17:27 <mihalis68> I agree 14:17:32 <mrhillsman> would we be asking the org to handle the entire process? 14:18:03 <fifieldt> mrhillsman, it could just be cash, and we could find someone else to assess venues if that worked 14:18:06 <fifieldt> depends on org requirements 14:18:07 <mihalis68> an evening event can be quite simple in a place like manhattan. 14:18:20 <fifieldt> mihalis68's favourite bar, maybe :) 14:18:24 <mrhillsman> ^ 14:18:39 <fifieldt> #action mrhillsman to email ops ML asking if anyone is around to organise/sponsor an evening event 14:18:44 <fifieldt> I'd recommend after Day 1 14:18:48 <fifieldt> since people go home on day 2 :) 14:18:57 <mrhillsman> +1 14:18:57 <fifieldt> ok, that's all I've got for NYC 14:19:04 <s3an2> I agree after day1 14:19:08 <fifieldt> thanks mrhillsman, mihalis68, zioproto :) 14:19:10 <mihalis68> +1 14:19:17 <fifieldt> next up, I have some news! 14:19:21 <fifieldt> #topic Barcelona 14:19:25 <s3an2> :D 14:19:32 <fifieldt> I had the chance to chat today with colleagues about summit scheduling 14:19:33 <mihalis68> I'll look and see what bars are near Civic Hall, but I may not know that neighborhood particularly 14:19:35 <mrhillsman> excited now 14:19:38 <emccormick> Ooooo 14:19:41 <fifieldt> #topic https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=803513477 14:19:48 <fifieldt> inside our magic spreadsheet of doom 14:19:53 <fifieldt> is the barcelona tab 14:20:06 <fifieldt> in green and purple are the rooms we will probably get 14:20:28 <fifieldt> Tuesday is the day 14:20:41 <fifieldt> and we need to cram in as much as possible as early as possible 14:20:56 <fifieldt> so we have as little as possible conflicting with x-proj sessions 14:21:11 <fifieldt> (NB: time slots may be +/- 15 minutes - need to update) 14:21:16 <fifieldt> but in general 14:21:20 <fifieldt> same size as Austin 14:21:27 <fifieldt> with the need to have a bit more going on at the same time 14:21:41 <fifieldt> also: important point: 14:21:43 <mihalis68> same size is great. 14:21:44 <fifieldt> Lightning talks 14:22:03 <fifieldt> I managed to get 2 slots reserved over in the conference track "Ops War Stories" 14:22:11 <fifieldt> specifically for the lightning talks normally at the ops summit 14:22:30 <fifieldt> advantages include: more audience, nicer rooms 14:22:32 <VW> ooh - nice 14:22:56 <zioproto> +1 for the Ops War Stories" at the summit 14:23:00 <mrhillsman> panel? 14:23:12 <fifieldt> mrhillsman, normally 5-10min lightning talks 14:23:14 <fifieldt> however 14:23:18 <fifieldt> if you like panels :) 14:23:18 <mihalis68> is this a call for war .... stories? 14:23:27 <fifieldt> I believe some submissions to the track include panels 14:23:34 <fifieldt> so, standby for news on that 14:23:42 <fifieldt> anyway, now we have approximate rooms for barcelona 14:23:53 <fifieldt> as soon as we feel it's appropriate, we can start agenda brainstorming for that :) 14:24:06 <emccormick> I think we might want to wait until the agenda for NYC is set 14:24:11 <mrhillsman> ^ 14:24:14 <emccormick> so as to not cause distraction from the task at hand 14:24:14 <fifieldt> that sounds sane emccormick 14:24:38 <fifieldt> also, I find that sometimes ops ML discussions happen in the lead up to the summit that make for good fishbowls 14:24:44 <emccormick> but put the call out right before NYC and then people can argue things at the meetup 14:25:07 <mihalis68> put barcelona agenda on nyc agenda? :) 14:25:12 <emccormick> yep 14:25:17 <zioproto> what means 'to make for good fishbowls' ? 14:25:30 <emccormick> well it doesn't have to be a session, but it certainly could be ;) 14:26:00 <mihalis68> I'll add it to the ether pad brainstorm and if it gets +1ed so be it 14:26:08 <fifieldt> zioproto, Ops ML conversation becomes a conversation in a room at the summit 14:26:22 <shamail> fifieldt: +1 14:26:36 <zioproto> ok now I get it 14:26:36 <fifieldt> so, we do need to think about how to manage that brainstorming 14:26:43 <fifieldt> whether it's a long-lived etherpad 14:26:48 <VW> zioproto: and example from the past was packaging 14:26:49 <fifieldt> or a short, highly-advertised thing 14:27:01 <VW> lots of ML chatter let do a few sessions in Ops meetups at summits 14:27:28 <fifieldt> so, we normally do get a few good session ideas at the "feedback session" at the midcycle 14:27:37 <fifieldt> we feed those into a later brainstorming etherpad 14:27:53 <fifieldt> anyway, I feel like I'm not making much sense anymore :) 14:28:00 <fifieldt> someone else talk about barcelona :) 14:28:19 <mrhillsman> lol 14:28:21 <zioproto> It would be great to have James Page or somebody from Canonical to speak about the Ubuntu packaging on NYC. Is anyone in touch with him ? 14:28:25 <mihalis68> I guess several of us can only comprehend NYC right now 14:28:27 <mrhillsman> i did get a little lost 14:28:32 <mrhillsman> :P 14:28:42 <s3an2> zioproto, +1 14:28:50 <emccormick> Barcelona: Will there be wine at lunch? :D 14:28:52 <mihalis68> but we are meeting weekly with extra email conversation around NYC, it should start to gel soon 14:29:09 <mihalis68> and I have to read up about barcelona more before I have any mental framework 14:29:12 <emccormick> anyway, did we manage to get feedback in on the unstructured room configuration? 14:29:32 <zioproto> I always beg him via email to get support on the Ubuntu packaging. I hope it does not hate me already because I write always to him for support :D He is very competent, I would love to meet him again in NYC at the ops event. 14:30:16 <mihalis68> we have a support contract with Canonical. I will fwd a question as to is a Canonical person coming through that point of contact 14:30:21 <fifieldt> emccormick, I will verify that ASAP 14:30:38 <fifieldt> #action fifieldt to verify the room setup for Friday at barcelona isn't some weird square thing 14:30:41 <mihalis68> twisted sentence... bloomberg will ask canonical if they are sending someone to NYC meetup 14:30:50 <emccormick> Brilliant 14:31:16 <fifieldt> excellent 14:31:25 <zioproto> mihalis68: thanks. It would be great to have a Canonical tech person at the packaging working group. 14:31:39 <fifieldt> Is there anyone else we want to "invite" to NYC? 14:31:43 <zioproto> I guess we could need the same for Centos/Redhat 14:32:33 <fifieldt> oh, apparently one of my amazing colleagues may be joining us to ask about promoting NYC 14:32:34 <mihalis68> I have just done the email to my business sponsor who has the relationship with Canonical 14:32:45 <fifieldt> to make sure we hit the cap that mihalis68 has nightmares about :) 14:32:51 <fifieldt> it's aprice_! 14:32:52 <mihalis68> I asked for James Page 14:32:55 <VW> I'd prefer to keep the mid-cycle as vendor free as possible 14:33:02 <aprice_> hello everyone :) 14:33:05 <fifieldt> Everyone, please welcome Allison Price (aprice_) 14:33:10 <mihalis68> hello Allison! 14:33:12 <fifieldt> she organised quite a few of the past ops meetups 14:33:16 <emccormick> Hi Allison! 14:33:19 <shamail> hi aprice_!! 14:33:19 <fifieldt> and is also the editor in chief of superuser 14:33:21 <VW> Howdy, Allison 14:33:24 <mrhillsman> hey aprice_ ! 14:33:25 <mihalis68> VW we said that vendors could attend with "operator hat" on right? 14:33:27 <fifieldt> amoungst other things 14:33:37 <zioproto> VW: good point. I though of James as he is the main committer on the Ubuntu Cloud Archives package repo. Not as a Canonical representative. 14:33:45 <mrhillsman> mihalis68 yes iirc 14:33:54 <fifieldt> aprice_, I think you were going to ask something about the NYC event? 14:33:56 <mihalis68> I've seen james talk, he's not dry vendory 14:34:00 <mihalis68> not very 14:34:04 <fifieldt> +1 14:34:13 <mnaser> if this is not too far away from NYC, I'd like to drop by as well 14:34:28 <mnaser> (I know I kindof just jumped in here) 14:34:52 <mnaser> i'm @ vexxhost and we run a fairly large public cloud here with two az's 14:35:00 <fifieldt> mnaser, would be amazing to have you 14:35:10 <fifieldt> details at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-meetup 14:35:21 <aprice_> yes, in previous versions of the ops midcycle we have done a lot of promotion to the ops community and now that it’s run by this committee, I wanted to get input on promotion of the NYC ops midcycle :) 14:35:35 <mnaser> and i've worked on both writing openstack code side of things and running openstack, it's not too far out from here 14:35:40 <aprice_> of course taking into account total capacity and getting the right folks there 14:36:17 <fifieldt> #topic Ops meetup promotion 14:36:22 <mihalis68> I'd say Tom has managed to make this one quite crowd-sourced 14:36:25 <fifieldt> That's a great topic aprice_ 14:36:35 <mihalis68> not that I am familiar with previous committee structures 14:36:37 <emccormick> We're about 95 short of max capacity at this point so shouldn't be an issue to advertise it a bit more 14:36:43 <mihalis68> but as a crowd-sourced thing it's lacking in promotion 14:36:48 <mihalis68> IMHO 14:36:53 <mrhillsman> hehe 14:37:23 <fifieldt> aprice_, maybe it would help to talk about some of the things we've done in the past? 14:37:27 <fifieldt> (eg official twitter account?) 14:37:45 <mihalis68> we did tweet out the poll for location choice quite a bit 14:37:55 <aprice_> what we have done previously is just emailing folks who have indicated that they are operators at the summit, folks who have attended past ops midcycles and reminding the ops mailing lists 14:37:59 <mihalis68> I might not have tweeted the registration though 14:38:28 <mihalis68> there had been concern about not getting oversubscribed and not getting too much attention from pure marketing folks 14:38:35 <aprice_> we have also tweeted, but tried to make sure to keep it clear that this is for operators who are running an OpenStack cloud to make sure the intent of the event is clear and that it’s not for noobs. 14:38:58 <s3an2> tweeting registration may target the 'wrong' people ;) 14:39:02 <mihalis68> yes 14:39:15 <mihalis68> I think we did get enough visibility on the poll itself 14:39:18 <aprice_> yes, we try to make sure to get the _right_ folks there through the different avenues 14:39:19 <fifieldt> (for reference, in emails to people and on reg we post: ***Note***: This event assumes OpenStack ops knowledge and is _not_ appropriate for beginners, or a place to learn about OpenStack. The event contains relatively few 'presentations' and is mostly a discussion-style event. To find other OpenStack events in your area, please visit www.openstack.org/events. ) 14:39:26 <zioproto> If there are local openstack groups on the meetup.com website, we should make sure they know about out NYC date. I think there are many places that are just 1 hour flight away and they have a local meetup. 14:39:32 <mihalis68> and after that people who are actually operators hopefully stay in touch via the mailing list 14:39:42 <fifieldt> right, that's another thing we do is normally contact local meetup groups 14:39:47 <mrhillsman> +1 zioproto 14:39:55 <aprice_> not tweeting is fine so that emails and other points of contact can have the disclaimer that fifieldt shared about 14:39:58 <aprice_> above* 14:40:21 <mrhillsman> there will be quite a few folks in NYC already because of OpenStack Days East as well 14:40:25 <fifieldt> ok, so questions then 14:40:27 <s3an2> zioproto, The Manchester meetup did put out the dates last week for NYC 14:40:34 <mrhillsman> not sure if anyone knows the committee there, but could reach out 14:40:54 <fifieldt> 1/ For NYC and Ongoing, do we email the list of people who indicated they were "Ops" in their previous summit registration? 14:41:11 <mrhillsman> not the vendors of course, the committee is mostly made of meetup organizers from what i know 14:41:22 <fifieldt> 2/ For NYC and Ongoing, do we email folks who have attended past ops midcycles ? 14:41:30 <fifieldt> 3/ For NYC and Ongoing do we remind the Ops ML 14:41:31 <VW> I say a good reminder email for each event is always a good thing 14:41:43 <fifieldt> so that's a yes for #2, VW? 14:41:47 <VW> cause Ops folks tend to get "distracted" - running clouds and all 14:41:49 <VW> yep 14:41:59 <mihalis68> Can it be one email for the union of 1,2&3 people? 14:42:01 <shamail> fifieldt: Could we also possibly start with creating a list based on people who have committed to OSOps repo, answered questions on Ask OpenStack, etc? I am wondering if there are activities in the community that we could use to identify “ops” to invite as well... 14:42:17 <fifieldt> ok, shamail, how about 14:42:31 <VW> or start the list with all those who've earned the Ops tag 14:42:32 <fifieldt> 4/ for NYC and Ongoing, do we email the list of "Active User Contributors"? 14:42:35 <mnaser> I wouldn't have known about this if I didn't randomly stumble upon a discussion under #openstack-operators .. contacting the people who are marked as ops would have gotten my attention 14:42:36 <VW> and expand from there 14:42:56 <fifieldt> so thqat's a vote for #1, mnaser? 14:42:58 <shamail> fifieldt: that would cover this scope I gave but it also includes a lot of extra things that would attract vendors 14:43:06 <shamail> (local user groups, WG members, etc) 14:43:18 <mnaser> fifieldt, vote for #1, correct 14:43:26 <fifieldt> would the disclaimer posted above be sufficient for that case shamail 14:43:30 <fifieldt> or do we really need a subset of AUC? 14:44:02 <shamail> Subset would be ideal (we would already have the data organized by activities so it should be minimal additional effort) 14:44:26 <fifieldt> ok, that's good 14:44:34 <aprice_> does this list already exist or does it need to be updated post Austin? 14:44:39 <shamail> So #1 + AUC subset 14:44:40 <fifieldt> 5/ For NYC and ongoing, do we email the subset of AUC more likely to be ops? 14:44:59 <aprice_> shamail I know that you have been gathering info, but didn’t know how much else was needed 14:45:18 <shamail> aprice_: This list is being updated at the moment… I can send you the current list… (we will refresh this list until feature freeze) 14:45:32 <aprice_> shamail: thanks! 14:45:35 <fifieldt> ok, everyone 14:45:37 <shamail> The subset we would be interested in is already available 14:45:40 <fifieldt> the options here are numerous 14:45:52 <fifieldt> can I ask you all to go to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 14:45:54 <fifieldt> at line 28 14:46:02 <fifieldt> and put a +1 against things you support 14:46:06 <fifieldt> along with any comments under each 14:47:45 <mihalis68> I have to apoligise to AUC people as I barely know what it is 14:47:50 <mihalis68> and also can't spell 14:47:58 <fifieldt> not a problem mihalis68, it's quite new 14:48:20 <fifieldt> basically, it's an attempt to recognise people who've made contributions to OpenStack in areas other than code commits 14:48:33 <mihalis68> so I +1ed the previous attendees and mailing list and summit self-identifiers 14:48:52 <mihalis68> nothing against AUC I just don't know it 14:48:54 <fifieldt> mihalis68, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/AUCRecognition 14:49:19 <mihalis68> thanks 14:49:19 <fifieldt> so, it looks like there's an open question about AUC 14:49:28 <fifieldt> shamail, would you be able to followup, maybe with aprice_ 14:49:36 <fifieldt> to work out which bits are ops-centric that we could use? 14:49:50 <shamail> fifieldt: +1, will do 14:50:04 <fifieldt> #action shamail to followup with aprice_ on AUC bits for ops and report back 14:50:09 <aprice_> thanks shamail 14:50:28 <fifieldt> we also need to communicate this discussion to the ML 14:50:29 <aprice_> i have also added a part to the etherpad where folks can add which subsets they think should be included 14:50:37 <fifieldt> excellent 14:51:01 <fifieldt> aprice_, (or anyone) are there any other promotion ideas for the ops events to discuss? 14:51:24 <aprice_> that is what we have typically done, but I am always open for suggestions if anyone has anything they would like to add 14:51:55 <fifieldt> anyone? 14:52:03 <mnaser> What about contacting users who submitted data to the OpenStack survey within a certain scale 14:52:23 <mnaser> ex: folks who have mentioned they run clouds > N cores who would benefit from this 14:52:43 <mnaser> I don't know about the legalities of being able to contact them but it's an idea 14:52:51 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/osops-tools-monitoring: Fixed oschecks-check_keystone_api https://review.openstack.org/346855 14:53:08 <fifieldt> survey filler-outerers, what do you think? 14:53:53 <fifieldt> (5 minute warning) 14:54:17 <VW> survey filler-outers sounds good 14:54:32 <fifieldt> +1 I think contacting people who have a deployment in the survey is a good idea :) 14:54:33 <VW> because it's just a "hey, come to the ops thing" email 14:54:59 <aprice_> ok - I can add that to the list and email an update to the ops ML with a reminder about the event and what promotions we have discussed here. 14:55:05 <aprice_> so that everyone is in the loop :) 14:55:08 <mnaser> plus, the foundation puts so much effort into getting people to fill out the survey so it's a good list, imho. 14:55:20 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/osops-tools-monitoring: python-novaclient-3.1.0+ compatibility https://review.openstack.org/346730 14:55:21 <fifieldt> that would be great aprice_! 14:55:31 <fifieldt> #action aprice_ to send a summary of the promotion discussion to the list 14:55:37 <fifieldt> ok, anything else on promotioin? 14:56:13 <fifieldt> guess we got it covered :) 14:56:17 <mihalis68> yes 14:56:17 <mrhillsman> nope covered 14:56:17 <aprice_> I think that’s it - if anything else comes up, please reply on the ML email I send or ping me directly! 14:56:20 <aprice_> thanks :) 14:56:22 <mihalis68> we are half-full already after all 14:56:23 <fifieldt> thanks Allison!! 14:56:28 <fifieldt> so, with 3 minutes left 14:56:28 <mrhillsman> ^ 14:56:34 <fifieldt> #topic all other business 14:56:38 <mrhillsman> thanks aprice_ 14:56:52 <mihalis68> any more people wishing email updates when more of the itinerary is filled in? 14:56:58 <mihalis68> I have emccormick to add 14:57:07 <shamail> +1, yes please, mihalis68 14:57:10 <mihalis68> will do 14:57:13 <mrhillsman> i think i am already there 14:57:17 <mrhillsman> but if not, please add me 14:57:17 <fifieldt> ack 14:57:18 <mihalis68> you are 14:57:19 <zioproto> I also think I am already there 14:57:28 <mihalis68> I want this itinerary full, it not final by this time next week 14:57:36 <mihalis68> I'll verify zioproto 14:57:41 <zioproto> saverio.proto 14:57:42 <mihalis68> just my own goal for myself 14:57:50 <mrhillsman> oh, just one more thing 14:57:56 <mrhillsman> thx fifieldt :) 14:57:59 <fifieldt> #action mihalis68 (own goal) finish itinerary by next meeting 14:58:03 <fifieldt> ok, brilliant 14:58:05 <fifieldt> with 1 more minute to go 14:58:08 <mrhillsman> and mihalis68 (Bloomberg) 14:58:08 <mihalis68> yes all hail tom 14:58:11 <fifieldt> anyone want to sing us out? 14:58:36 <mihalis68> bizarrely the meld to lang of hope and glory but with horrid soccer lyrics came to mind 14:58:40 <mihalis68> melody 14:58:44 <mihalis68> so will NOT be singing that 14:58:47 <fifieldt> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ _/¯(ツ)¯\_ ¯\_(ツ)¯\_ _/¯(ツ)_/¯ 14:58:48 <mrhillsman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr37BJA3cLI 14:58:56 <mrhillsman> ^ song :) 14:59:02 <fifieldt> oook 14:59:07 <fifieldt> many many thanks all! 14:59:08 <mihalis68> tom types that 'supson so fast.... 14:59:11 <fifieldt> see you next week!! 14:59:16 <mihalis68> librarian ook? 14:59:19 <fifieldt> #endmeeting