14:25:07 <mihalis68> #startmeeting Ops Meetups Team 14:25:08 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Dec 6 14:25:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:25:09 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:25:11 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team' 14:25:25 <mihalis68> hello everyone welcome to the Ops Meets Team meeting 14:25:29 <shintaro> hi 14:25:39 <mrhillsman> o/ 14:25:57 <fminzoni2> hi 14:25:57 <mihalis68> agenda 14:25:59 <mihalis68> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 14:26:50 <mihalis68> #topic review session structure stuff 14:27:11 <mihalis68> oops first item should be 14:27:15 <mihalis68> #topic last weeks actions 14:29:03 <mihalis68> looks like there were no actions last week? 14:29:06 <mihalis68> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-11-29-14.04.html 14:29:26 <shintaro> seems not 14:29:44 <mrhillsman> got disconnected 14:30:12 <mihalis68> #topic session structure review 14:30:46 <shintaro> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-WEsEmwms2SLyjt2jtCMvpepmiHwoiDkMWMWk37rkRA/edit#gid=0 14:31:37 <mihalis68> I forget where we are with this to be quite honest 14:32:03 <mihalis68> dc_mattj has put a lot of work in there to collect all the topics and their popularity 14:32:18 <mrhillsman> shyza cannot keep connected 14:32:45 <mrhillsman> right 14:33:00 <mrhillsman> we were waiting on room layout 14:33:07 <mihalis68> ah good point 14:33:13 <mihalis68> Federico are there maps available? 14:33:21 <mrhillsman> so we can build the spreadsheet slots 14:33:36 <fminzoni2> yes sure 14:34:10 <mihalis68> Can you share now, or possibly email one of us and we'll share with the mailing list afterwards? 14:34:52 <fminzoni2> Yes, I'll provide you a link with the maps of the area 14:34:57 <shintaro> so there was an etherpad page for Milan #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup 14:34:59 <mihalis68> mihalis68@gmail.com 14:35:09 <shintaro> maybe you can put the link there 14:35:19 <mihalis68> +1 14:35:29 <mrhillsman> +1 14:36:09 <fminzoni2> ok we'll provide the maps for the location 14:36:16 <fminzoni2> (mcunietti here) 14:36:47 <mihalis68> let me see if I can suggest some ways to move forward 14:37:04 <mihalis68> does everyone like the list of common topics that are on the google doc that shintaro shared above? 14:37:58 <VW> hey golks 14:37:58 <mrhillsman> sure, they have been sessions before 14:38:01 <VW> folks even 14:38:10 <VW> sorry for being late - crazy morning 14:38:21 <mihalis68> hey VW 14:38:25 <fminzoni2> ok for us they seem super comprehensive 14:38:35 <fminzoni2> a bit overkill for 2-day session :-) 14:38:36 <shintaro> to be honest, I don't know how the colours meant to mean 14:38:45 <mrhillsman> hey VW 14:38:54 <mihalis68> they just indicate the same topic in different meetups 14:39:20 <mihalis68> vw we are discussing itinerary for milan 14:39:32 <mihalis68> I also shared the link for august 2017 because intel has made a proposal 14:39:38 <VW> cool 14:40:15 <mihalis68> it seems that without dc_mattj to explain his method on the google doc for milan we're a bit stuck on this. Shall we punt on that this week since attendance is still a bit low? 14:40:26 <fminzoni2> is there any specific question or issue you would like to address with us (the host) for Milano? 14:41:03 <mihalis68> I think we wanted to know roughly what the sponsorship "gap" was 14:41:03 <fminzoni2> I (mcunietti) had a chat with Matt 10 days ago and he explained me in very deep details all the stuff to get going for the Meetup 14:41:22 <mrhillsman> what costs are covered, what do you need extra sponsors to cover 14:41:30 <fminzoni2> we are still discussing this internally (the sponsorhips). We'll have some answers next week 14:41:41 <mihalis68> Ok. That works for me 14:41:49 <fminzoni2> first, we are trying to understand the total cost of the event, and then slice it on the sponsors 14:42:08 <fminzoni2> consider this week is going to be bank holiday in Italy, so expect some delay 14:42:15 <mihalis68> my employer may be interested in being an extra sponsor 14:42:32 <fminzoni2> who is your employer, mihalis? 14:42:37 <mihalis68> bloomberg 14:42:48 <mrhillsman> did matt give enough detail for your team federico? 14:42:49 <mihalis68> we were the host for the August 2016 meetup 14:42:51 <fminzoni2> good, so loads of money :-) 14:42:58 <mrhillsman> lol 14:43:18 <fminzoni2> what do you mean "detail for your team" mrhillsman? 14:43:25 <mihalis68> most of the loot goes to charitable causes, however :) 14:43:40 <fminzoni2> of course :-) 14:43:45 <mrhillsman> you said you needed to know costs 14:43:51 <mihalis68> Ok we need to get moving in this meeting 14:44:00 <fminzoni2> yes we need to define the suppliers, first 14:44:09 <mihalis68> I propose we agree to review rooms before next meeting based on getting the map soon? 14:44:19 <mrhillsman> agreed 14:44:26 <fminzoni2> ok we'll post it on the Etherpad, right? 14:44:30 <mihalis68> #agreed review rooms next week 14:44:33 <mihalis68> yes please 14:44:36 <fminzoni2> fine 14:44:58 <mihalis68> I propose I email dc_mattj to see if he will push forward the itinerary planning or whether we need someone else to be pulled in 14:45:12 <mihalis68> he was supposedly the benevolent dictator for this 14:45:30 <mrhillsman> sounds good 14:45:35 <mihalis68> it's the crucial bit of the planning process 14:45:39 <fminzoni2> I think he will be the BD anyway, maybe he's just busy today 14:45:48 <mrhillsman> indeed 14:45:55 <mihalis68> #action mihalis68 to check with dc_mattj if he's still overseeing the itinerary planning 14:46:08 <fminzoni2> moreover we're friends with him, and this makes everything much easier 14:46:23 <mihalis68> he just couldn't make it, which leads me to 14:46:28 <mihalis68> #topic time of regular meeting 14:46:41 <mihalis68> matt and tom cannot make this time slot most weeks recently 14:46:50 <fminzoni2> we too 14:46:55 <mihalis68> matt asked in an email can we possibly make it one hour later? 14:47:01 <fminzoni2> +1 14:47:05 <mrhillsman> we are all friends federico :) 14:47:23 <fminzoni2> ca va sans dire 14:47:25 <mihalis68> so the proposal is 15:00 UTC I believe 14:47:53 <mihalis68> how many are we now? 14:47:55 <mrhillsman> hour later works for me 14:47:56 <shintaro> that will be midnight for me, but I can try if that would work for everyone:) 14:48:09 <mrhillsman> ah 14:48:12 <mihalis68> are we enough to vote and for it to be representative? 14:48:27 <mrhillsman> table it imo 14:48:45 <mrhillsman> we are small group anyways 14:48:52 <mihalis68> I'm not sure what table it means. In the US and UK that has diff meanings! 14:48:52 <mrhillsman> send email 14:49:09 <mihalis68> ok I can do that 14:49:10 <mrhillsman> hehe, sorry 14:49:20 <mihalis68> #mihalis68 to email the list to get feedback on time of regular meeting 14:49:34 <fminzoni2> in italy "table it" means it's lunchtime :-) 14:49:37 <mihalis68> could everyone just state (non-binding) yes or no to move this one hour later? 14:50:01 <mihalis68> shintaro is qualified yes, I'd like it later, matt would like it later, not sure about Tom, maybe yes also 14:50:05 <mrhillsman> works either way for me 14:50:08 <fminzoni2> yes 14:50:24 <mihalis68> I would hate to impose on shintaro but I think we miss matt and tom's input 14:50:52 <mihalis68> Ok i won't try to gerrymander the result but I can mention "some are in favor" 14:50:55 <mihalis68> :) 14:50:57 <fminzoni2> would like to be more supportive but we're new to the process indeed 14:51:05 <mrhillsman> tom was a one time thing iirc 14:51:06 <mihalis68> The process itself is new 14:51:18 <shintaro> yes, but Tom is in Asian timezone probably 2300 for him 14:51:43 <mihalis68> not one-time, but Tom just pulled this together "by magic" for a few and felt the community needed to take over to make this more open, inclusive etc 14:52:14 <mihalis68> is tom at home right now? he mentioned something about "currently in a timezone where the meeting is at some ungodly hour in the morning" so I assumed he was off traveling 14:52:22 <mihalis68> Less than 10 minutes left 14:52:40 <VW> I'll try to sync with Tom directly this week 14:52:40 <mrhillsman> we can email him 14:52:47 <VW> but, I'm sure he's bouncing all over the globle 14:52:49 <VW> globe even 14:52:56 <mrhillsman> yeah 14:53:05 <mihalis68> I have some actions, but let's say that unless agreement is seen on the mailing list, same time same place next week and I will chair again unless we get Tom back? 14:53:37 <mihalis68> any more topics people would like to discuss this week? 14:53:58 <mrhillsman> +1 14:54:15 <fminzoni2> none from us 14:54:17 <mrhillsman> nothing from me 14:54:24 <shintaro> none from me 14:54:35 <mihalis68> Federico you will try to get an indication of "funding gap" for next week? 14:54:46 <fminzoni2> ok sure 14:54:54 <fminzoni2> consider the bank holiday, will try our best 14:54:58 <mihalis68> dc_mattj said that the Manchester event had a bunch of extra sponsors fill the gap and it was $1k each so not bad 14:55:15 <mihalis68> You can email me if you can't make the IRC meeting and I can share with the meeting 14:55:27 <fminzoni2> ok 14:55:37 <mihalis68> 5 minutes left 14:55:51 <mihalis68> think we may be done 14:55:56 <mihalis68> any more for any more? 14:56:21 <mihalis68> #actuon fminzoni2 to try to get cost gap 14:56:31 <mihalis68> #action fminzoni2 to try to get cost gap 14:56:47 <mihalis68> #action fminzoni2 to share venue maps for review (put on ether pad) 14:56:56 <mihalis68> ok, about to finish. Last call 14:57:15 <mihalis68> thanks for all who attended making it at this early/late/whatever hour :) 14:57:19 <mihalis68> #endmeeting