15:02:32 #startmeeting Ops Meetups Team 15:02:32 Meeting started Tue Jan 10 15:02:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:02:35 Mihalis68, I am mobile, so chairing not great for me 15:02:36 The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team' 15:02:39 #topic 15:02:46 #topic review of last weeks actions 15:02:58 I was to mail the planning ether pad to the mailing list - DONE 15:03:16 Apologies - I still have not got the eventbrite up 15:03:24 o/ 15:03:37 This is because my.colleagues were doing PTg thinga 15:03:45 hi all 15:03:52 I was to check with Bloomberg re: Sponsorship. My nearest spending approver is abroad, however I heard from some new possible sponsors during the week 15:03:57 Within the week.ia the aim 15:04:17 i am waiting for responses to my action items, intel for fall mid-cyle and rackspace sponsorship 15:04:29 Mihalis68: we had an EoI from huawei for.milano sponsorship 15:04:45 Hello to.anni or rocky if they are attend ing 15:04:45 Anni Lai got in touch from Huawei 15:05:11 I am still lacking any response from my candidate sponsors 15:05:14 tom sent a great summary of this process, likely costs, what sponsors "get" etc etc 15:05:29 Cloudbase, SuSE, Redhat...no one answering 15:05:33 to Anni that is. She says there is strong interest from several Chinese companies 15:05:38 also tried Cisco 15:06:05 o/ 15:06:15 o/ 15:06:26 Yay VW, izaakk 15:06:49 afternoon 15:06:51 sorry I'm late 15:06:55 mihalis68: Can we archive that doc somewhere for use each round? Maybe a link on the wiki or something? 15:07:08 Absolutely 15:07:23 #action mihalis68 to convert Tom email into a suitable wikipage for reuse 15:07:32 ty :) 15:07:34 I'll strip specific details like names and companies 15:07:47 Thanks mihalis68 - I can provide backing as needee 15:07:59 i have now checked with my spending approver via email. I hoped to do it in person but missed my chance, so my actions are DONE 15:08:40 :D 15:08:46 I think that's all the actions that were recorded last week. Last week was short due to a brief agenda and not that many joining 15:09:20 ok so the next item I put on the agenda is Milan planning 15:09:47 I understand that sponsorship decisions are urgent. What else still needs doing other than that and the agenda/moderators etc? 15:10:09 How is the brainstorming going? 15:10:10 I think we have the date, venue, floorpans, assurances on wifi, hotel info etc 15:10:18 Do we have good topics yet! 15:10:23 :-) 15:10:28 happy you're happy 15:10:43 Maybe a little "getting around" thing from one of the locals? 15:10:46 Yes, mcunietti is doing a great jobb 15:10:58 +1 emccormick 15:11:00 for sponsors, who do they need to get in touch with? 15:11:05 I suppose the wikitravel page is sufficient, but a little verbose. 15:11:17 the planning ether pad is #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup 15:11:31 by "getting around" you mean maps and suggested venues, tourist info etc? we'll do it 15:11:46 Mrhilsman, mihalis68 , I guess sponsors are best to get in touch with mcunietti 15:12:01 particularly getting from the airports to the hotels / venue. The rest is gravy :) 15:12:05 Mcunietti, have you paid for anything other than.space yet? 15:12:26 +1 emccormick 15:12:34 As in - do.other sponsors pay Enter or the vendor directly v 15:12:38 mcunietti should we just provide them an email address for you or give them enter's contact details and ask to speak with you? 15:12:48 one question in this area for Anni is details of how money is handled 15:12:59 fifieldt: not yet 15:13:02 or is that not figured out yet 15:13:34 emccormick: we'll provide a website with all the info, let me check if that is feasible 15:13:34 Thanks mcunietti, I guess in this case other sponsors could pay eg food vendor directly 15:13:56 fifieldt: may be a problem matching all sponsorships with exact fees 15:14:00 mcunietti: Thanks! 15:14:10 Yeah? 15:14:20 so the financial details are ad hoc? Anna said Huawei is very big with a very rigid finance system. 15:14:34 most companies probably are 15:14:55 fifield have we processed sponsorship through the openstack foundation for these things? 15:15:15 Naw, normally funds went.direct to.suppliers 15:15:17 let me know how are we supposed to manage suppliers, either by our pockets or by sponsors', maybe I'd need some clearance from acct office 15:15:44 fifieldt: mobile.keyboard uh? :-) 15:16:01 So very.much :) 15:16:05 unfortunately I have little insight. Bloomberg (my employer) picked up the rental and all food and facilities and nothing else. Then a separate effort got the first evening event partially sponsored 15:16:19 Bloomberg was thus able to just pay the venue directly 15:16:38 so we have to wait until next meeting for those details mcunietti? 15:17:18 mrhillsman: what details? sponsorships or travel info? 15:17:23 So we need a list of items to be funded and then try to get a sponsor for those items? 15:17:25 sponsorships 15:17:40 maybe if we get an itemized list we can have sponsors pick up tab 15:17:44 Hi 15:17:50 matt did you pool some sponsors for Manchester? 15:17:53 hi Anni 15:17:56 mrhillsman: do you mean how much or who is going to pay? I don't understand 15:18:09 We are just discussing sponsorship details for the milan meetup 15:18:10 Sorry for being late. Went to the wrong channel 15:18:23 Hi annilai! 15:18:27 oops sorry if we didn't make it clear enough 15:18:28 mihalis68: AFAIK matt did an exact match and sponsors paid the suppliers 15:18:30 Please meet everyone 15:18:40 Hello, everyone! Glad to be here 15:18:49 Annilai is a big boss in Huawei 15:18:58 Hello annilai! :) 15:19:00 hi Anni 15:19:01 the specific question is : what items are currently not paid for for Milan and who can pick up the tab for those 15:19:03 Not really just a messenger 15:19:05 We are privileged to have her here 15:19:12 hi annilai, thanks for dropping in 15:19:14 I believe just the space rental is taken care of? 15:19:42 mihalis68: except for the venue, everything else has not been paid yet and there is no one on the horizon willing to pay for it :-) 15:19:47 Annilai, mcunietti is our friend that is leading the venue in Milan 15:19:54 Ok 15:19:58 Ok, let us try to make a list 15:19:58 Hi Annilai, nice to meet you! 15:20:10 Likewise 15:20:23 Lunch both days. That's really important to hold the day together vs. people leaving the event to shop for food 15:20:31 True! 15:20:34 mcunietti have you costed catering for that? 15:20:36 mihalis68: food and soft drinks for 2 days, night event (=> Foundation?), prints and signage 15:20:58 yes we already did this calculations two weeks ago, I guess it's also in the etherpad 15:21:06 three weeks ago, sorry 15:21:37 So, annilai, it around like if you are interested in sponsoring you have the option of working with mcunietti or paying directly to catering vendor 15:21:39 amen to the lunch on site 15:21:39 yes it's there, Dec 20th 15:21:42 ok I see it now 15:21:45 thanks for reminding me! 15:21:54 noprob 15:21:59 For example :) 15:22:08 catering approx 4,500 - 5000 Euros 15:22:11 At this point I can't commit yet I still have to make a business case and propose it to HQ 15:22:18 Of course 15:22:23 annilai how about a discussion offline? mcunietti@enter.eu, +39 340 3195016 15:22:28 That's why I'm here, I will let you know as soon as I get the greenlight 15:22:29 badges and signs 750-1000 euros 15:22:50 tell you what, I'll ask if Bloomberg can cover badges and signs 15:23:33 Sure, discussion offline is great. My email is anni.lai@huawei.com 15:23:41 BTW, did you see the accomodation information I posted on Etherpad before Christmas? 15:23:46 Annilai has overlords to please from a potential sponsorship perspective, but she also has a lot of operator friends at many important companies 15:24:13 She might be able to get some great attendees from some.telcos 15:24:39 Yes! I'll get my operator friends to come. Milan is a good place ! 😂 15:24:40 Experienced people who.might be able to moderate 15:25:14 Yes ! 15:25:17 mcunietti can i have rackspace reach out to you via that email directly? 15:25:19 ok someone want to take an action to try to arrange sponsorship for catering? 15:25:23 annilai: you got mail 15:25:45 mrhillsman: of course! 15:25:47 Hi zioproto! 15:25:55 ciao Saverio 15:25:56 seems like there's potentially money available, it's a coordination effort mainly 15:26:38 mcunietti can I give you the action since you're picking up this topic via email with Anni? 15:26:38 When do u need answer by? 15:27:29 Answer to sponsorship ? 15:28:00 I will try to get an answer for my bit by next meeting 15:28:02 annilai: is the question for me or mihalis68? 15:28:18 #action mihalis68 to get answer on Bloomberg sponsoring badges and signs for next meeting 15:28:23 All of u. I need to know the deadline for sponsorship 15:28:40 I think end of January is fine 15:28:45 My company moves very slowly so I need to know the deadline 15:28:57 Got it. Thx 15:29:04 one and a half month advance for catering and mid-week night event is sufficient 15:29:23 can be later anyway 15:29:36 annilai: get a 10 day grace period more 15:29:42 #action annuli to get answer about Huawei sponsoring some or all of the catering for Milan, deadline end of Jan 2017 15:29:46 Ok. Thx 15:29:56 sorry I got autocorrected there 15:30:49 Ok. logistics are moving for milan 15:30:58 i think the agenda is lagging 15:31:06 matt_jarvis you here right now? 15:31:42 was he taking a first pass? 15:31:42 #action annilai to get answer about Huawei sponsoring some or all of the catering for Milan, deadline end of Jan 2017 15:31:53 We have lots of General session ideas but few working group sessions at this point 15:31:53 (I did that action again just to fix the name) 15:32:17 VW matt was to be benevolent dictator for this bit of it, however it seems perhaps he has a lot going on 15:32:21 he just changed jobs 15:32:38 emccormick: can I still add ideas for working sessions? 15:32:43 I did fwd the planning ether pad link to the mailing list, but unless I'm wrong we're not getting much tractioon 15:32:47 ah - gotcha mihalis68 15:32:55 I am happy to help with schedule planning 15:33:02 I won't be making it to the meetup, though 15:33:04 mihalis68, sorry am in another meeting at the same time 15:33:08 understood. I can't make it either 15:33:13 Mihailis68 - if acceptable, I can email.past attendees 15:33:25 thanks 15:34:06 yes, fiefeldt I think we need to jump to email and find out who's able to really help get this moving. I should be able to help 15:34:25 who's in for plan-by-email? 15:34:35 +1 15:34:38 mccormick? 15:34:40 o/ 15:34:51 is there more to say about Milan? I'm on a hurry and need to leave early, sorry 15:35:09 mcunietti i think we are good other than session planning, thanks! 15:35:12 I mean Milan logistics 15:35:17 thank you all 15:35:18 yes understood 15:35:32 bye everyone 15:35:39 Bye 15:35:41 bye mcunietti 15:35:45 bye 15:35:50 #info just past halfway through allotted meeting time 15:36:17 it looks like fifieldt offered to do the kick-off email 15:36:21 yes? :) 15:36:23 Ja 15:36:24 mihalis68: Sorry distractions. Yes email is fine 15:36:58 Annilai, for reference mihalis68 is Chris Morgan :) 15:37:09 Pls include me on email communication . Thx 15:37:19 Ok. I see. 15:37:26 #action fifieldt to email the planning team to get session planning really moving - past participants and definitely mihalis68 vw annilai shintaro matt_jarvis 15:37:41 anyone else wish to be cc:ed on that? 15:37:49 Rocky 15:37:54 and me 15:37:55 :) 15:37:58 Absolutely 15:38:00 ok very good, thanks! 15:38:08 Pls include rocky on our side too. 15:38:17 is that enough about milan for now? 15:38:19 Always, rocky is awesome 15:38:45 milan == covered 15:38:45 ok. #topic early planning for August 2017 15:39:10 Has everyone seen the intel proposal? They are saying they can host in Oregon in August 15:39:29 Any details yet? 15:39:30 I don't think we have voted on that proposal being accepted 15:39:43 mrhillsman was actioned to ask them for more 15:39:43 I am meeting Carol B. tomorrow and can ask 15:39:48 oh great 15:40:08 #action fifieldt to obtain more detail on intel hosting proposal for oregon august 2017 15:40:26 Ack-ack 15:40:34 in that case, shall we vote next week on the proposal that intel's proposal is locked-in? 15:40:59 sounds good. 15:41:10 Plus one 15:41:16 we are slightly in new territory. For the NYC slot we had two proposals, so had to have the poll 15:41:36 but for "north america region, 2nd meet up in 2017" we only have intel, so I guess it's a formality 15:41:58 (before NYC we just had Tom's magic process making it all happen "effortlessly" :) ) 15:42:17 Those were the days 15:42:47 ok #info meetup team to vote on intel proposal for august 2017 next meeting 2017-1-17 15:42:47 I'll try Huawei too if we need a backup for North America 15:42:49 yeah, i mentioned when i came in 15:42:55 We've allowed plenty of time for other proposals to pop up and sent multiple calls, so I see no reason to drag it out past next week 15:43:01 i hit up carol mihalis68 fifieldt 15:43:26 oh yes I see now you said you were waiting for a response 15:43:49 where is the latest proposal? still here ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-aug-2017 15:43:52 mccormick I agree, we agreed a cutoff of end of 2016 for NA proposals and intel was the only one 15:44:01 I believe so Shintaro 15:44:27 i think voting next week is just so that everyone has enough details to make an informed choice 15:44:28 I also want to talk with shintaro about the potential for.something at OpenStack Tokyo day 15:44:53 ok. fifieldt it's in July 15:44:55 It would be great to get something in APAC this year, I believe 15:45:08 How about China day ? 15:45:14 #action mihalis68 to notify operators mailing list when full intel details are provided and let them know we'll agree this proposal unless a problem is found (unlikely) 15:45:27 The last Monday and Tuesday of July 15:45:31 We are planning a local meetup in Days Tokyo. 15:45:41 #topic APAC operators meetings 15:46:36 proposals: operators meet ups at China day and at openstack tokyo day 15:46:44 I would like to propose Chyna day for APAC if it's not too late 15:46:45 Seems good to me! 15:46:54 China day 15:47:13 In that case why huawei can definitely host 15:47:17 hello, I just arrived in front of the screen, reading the log right now :) 15:47:20 so there's no limit to how many times operators can get together 15:47:31 We did this last year and had good attendance from Japanese ops 15:47:32 Indeed 15:47:44 As I understand there's agreement to do a minimum of two mid-cycles and two summits and then whatever extras people can pull together 15:48:00 I went to the jp ops meetup last year and it was quite good 15:48:05 Great ! 15:48:07 and also did it in Okinawa last month 15:48:09 There's a small chance I'd try to do china. My daughter is doing well learning mandarin 15:48:25 Also, China day was good :p 15:48:33 Ha ha.. she can come and help 15:48:59 she's not very into openstack, but she could be my interpreter! :) 15:49:10 Would pay to.see this 15:49:16 heh 15:49:16 ^_^ 15:49:16 Ok 👌 15:49:45 I have a link I can share. She did a mandarin language video for a school project 15:50:07 it's funny, especially if you understand the words 15:50:11 Huawei is hiring .. she can apply :) 15:50:13 apologies for getting so offtopic 15:50:37 August will be North America or APAC ? I got confused ? 15:50:43 North America 15:50:53 but what you are seeing here is the beginning of what we talked about 15:50:53 August is the "official" mid-cycle meet up 15:51:01 not just one Ops meetup every 6 months 15:51:04 but more regional events 15:51:05 NA 15:51:05 :D 15:51:12 okay 15:51:21 i think the only true "official" thing about it is the community tries to all get there 15:51:30 which is why there's a travel distance optimization effort 15:51:52 what can this team do to assist these other regional events? 15:52:07 We can get the word out within our organizations of course 15:52:13 anything else? 15:53:09 We are starting to come up with reusable docs and todo lists. At some point it will be a nice repo we can share with those organizers 15:53:17 Well, I'll put a note about this topic on the agenda and share that after the meeting and we'll then ping the mailing list to try to get indications of interest 15:53:46 #info 7 minutes left 15:53:57 how to link regional effort to the official one would be a challenge 15:54:15 Agree 15:54:17 since not everybody can travel or speak English 15:54:52 perhaps we need an effort to translate ether pads? 15:55:09 we did that already :) 15:55:12 the Summit in Tokyo had fantastic multi-language simultaneous translation 15:55:19 I think most of Openstack era can read English 15:55:20 oh, sorry, i'm out of date 15:55:32 I mean we did our meetup in local language but at the same time did etherpad live-memo in English 15:55:37 I see 15:55:56 Otherwise how do they read documents to learn Openstack ? 15:56:23 This reminds me ... the systems of furiously spawning topic-specific ether pads is very easy but leads to a fractured result 15:56:38 I think there are benefits to do regional ones in addition to official midcycles since not everyone can travel 15:56:48 if we get 4 main and many more regional events, it will be a shame if you can't browse them from a single index 15:57:05 and it will be too many to just keep track of each individually 15:57:14 I can barely find all "our" links for these meetings at times 15:57:25 which brings me to : fiefieldt any thoughts on tooling? 15:57:36 Hehehe 15:57:37 You were going to tell us about a possible tool? Cheddar? 15:57:48 Thoughts yes, solutions no 15:57:57 so close... 15:58:08 Working with ttx on updates to "odsreg" 15:58:11 Look it up 15:58:19 It's for submitting.sessions 15:58:22 Works.well 15:58:31 I guess it won't be ready in time for milan? 15:58:41 Could be if we push 15:58:43 for our purposes? 15:58:53 Check out odsreg.openatack.org 15:58:57 Or something 15:59:10 I'd like ideas on pulling the disparate ether pads and google docs into something more coherent 15:59:13 maybe for next week 15:59:15 Oj 15:59:22 Action me 15:59:26 #info one more minute 15:59:27 I can write it up 15:59:37 #action fifieldt to write up tooling thoughts 15:59:38 Oh teh noes 16:00:02 pretty good progress this week I think 16:00:13 any more comments before I end this meeting? 16:00:14 anyone? 16:00:22 thanks for the meeting 16:00:28 sorry I was super late :) 16:00:31 Thank you!for chairing 16:00:41 thanks 16:00:44 thanks for everyone who participated and particularly welcome our new joiner Anni! 16:00:49 Nice meeting everyone ! Have a good day/night ! 16:00:53 Gotta run to the next meeting 16:00:54 #endmeeting