16:00:44 #startmeeting oslo 16:00:44 courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, 16:00:44 courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, jogo, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, 16:00:44 Meeting started Mon Jul 13 16:00:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:46 courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek 16:00:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:48 o/ 16:00:49 The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 16:00:49 o/ 16:00:50 hi 16:00:52 o/ 16:00:55 sup 16:00:58 hi 16:01:41 0/ 16:01:46 dims_: o/ 16:01:51 o/ 16:02:33 so, we have almost recovered from mock 1.1.0 release issues. 16:02:36 #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 16:02:47 none for keystone that I can think of 16:03:12 o/ 16:03:13 o/ 16:03:21 thanks bknudson 16:03:37 any other liaisons around? 16:03:39 none for neutron, pymysql unstable job is either killed or to be killed since known issues were fixed 16:03:55 ihrachyshka: cool 16:04:16 hi 16:04:21 hi e0ne 16:04:32 o/ 16:04:46 jungleboyj: e0ne: any red flags from last week? 16:05:05 switching topics otherwise 16:05:09 #topic py26 support and jobs 16:05:09 #link http://markmail.org/message/eqcc7akocomipvrx 16:05:09 dims_: not from me. may be jungleboyj has something 16:05:20 dims_: I don't think so. I need to tackle looking at the genconfig stuff. 16:05:27 Have that on the list for the next day or so. 16:05:27 thanks jungleboyj e0ne 16:05:33 Carry on. 16:05:36 ;-) 16:05:50 dhellmann: lifeless: are we going to nuke support right away? 16:05:53 so for futurist https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200313/ (py26 gone) 16:06:02 ^ just merged 16:06:11 ref link about has an email thread from lifeless 16:06:19 dims_: I may be behind on that thread, but I don't think we've established if that's safe. 16:06:48 jungleboyj: genconfig for cinder? 16:06:50 dhellmann: what would be our concerns that we can take to the thread 16:06:54 what libraries are still supporting it? oslo.utils, oslo.serialization oslo.config? 16:07:13 stevemar: Yeah, getting the config generator to work properly. We are still back on the old one. 16:07:15 ihrachyshka: what links can I look at to learn about the specific resolutions for neutron + pymysql ? 16:07:22 dhellmann, assuming we capped everything, we should be safe. 16:07:23 It aint working right. 16:07:24 dims_: we have some oslo libs used in client libs, and so we really need to decide if it's safe to drop 2.6 support for the client libs in master 16:07:41 so python-* will need to rip off 26 support first 16:07:48 keystoneclient still has a py26 job 16:07:50 then we would be next 16:07:55 and it uses oslo libs 16:07:59 and the answer to that depends on whether we expect people to be installing via pip, and if so how to ensure they know the latest version is not supported on 2.6 (major version bump) 16:07:59 do we also disable py26 for clients? Last time I brought up this question in murano (we still test client in murano against 2.6) I was told, that clients are a special case, cause we want them to work on as diverse environments as possible 16:08:23 kzaitsev_mb: y, that's the question in the email thread 16:08:25 kzaitsev_mb: right, though that was before we had stable branches for the clients 16:08:38 so the question is, are stable branch versions of the clients good enough for folks on 2.6? 16:09:15 dhellmann: problem was that not all python clients have versions already cut from their stable branches that we can tell people to use 16:09:28 if i remember right 16:09:45 zzzeek, I think mostly it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191540/ , maybe armax@ or kevinbenton will be able to provide more links to patches for pymysql + neutron 16:09:56 dims_: ok, that's solvable 16:10:48 so, step 1) make releases from stable branches, 2) yank py26 jobs from python-* then 3) yank py26 jobs from oslo-* 16:10:56 jungleboyj: shouldn't be that bad! 16:10:57 from what i can tell 16:11:17 new releases on stable/kilo? 16:11:23 finally cleanup tox.inis 16:11:34 bknudson: y 16:11:56 that would require a lot of backporting... not sure how much it would be for keystoneclient 16:12:01 right 16:12:04 that's the problem 16:12:16 maybe a new branch would be better 16:12:22 we are far away from stable/liberty :) 16:12:38 bknudson, stable/kilo is for backporting, what's the deal? I don't get 16:12:39 stable/26-eol 16:12:40 dims_: we could remove all of the jobs at the same time, but yeah 16:13:12 bknudson: stable branch names have to match, otherwise the code is tested against master 16:13:32 k, let's chime in on the thread since this is a larger openstack discussion 16:13:45 #topic Releases for this week 16:13:45 Releases for this week. Here are the unreleased changes 16:13:45 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases 16:14:04 dhellmann: once that oslo.log review lands, can i make releases for the week? 16:14:42 harlowja_at_home: please help vet the version numbers since i gave a huge bump last week to a couple of libs :) 16:14:52 dims_, ;) 16:15:17 dims_: if the tests are passing, I think so 16:15:18 hehe, yes that :-P 16:15:23 all, please look through those changes just in case there's something controversial 16:15:49 dims_, for futurist, a couple reviews are merging (that had depends-on removal of 26) so i guess wait till those are in 16:16:16 fyi, i am running unit tests with a handful of projects against oslo-* master here - https://travis-ci.org/dims/ 16:16:49 harlowja_at_home: k please ping me when they are in. i'll mark the ether pad saying i should wait for you 16:17:03 dims_, np, i marked etherpad 16:17:46 harlowja_at_home: thanks, i added a warning on the top as well 16:17:50 kk 16:17:52 cool beans 16:18:01 switching topics 16:18:04 #topic New libraries and drivers - how is it going? 16:18:04 #link specs - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ 16:18:04 #link library audit - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTR-pN2GD5cK_tHIMyKNL5vh4N8JtXTptcE1bLd2G3E/edit#gid=0 16:18:14 dims_: me and victors are working on zmq functional gate fixing in new driver 16:18:25 dims_: droyal works on unit tests 16:18:34 ozamiatin: nice! thanks for coordinating the work 16:18:38 dims_: so, I'd like to thank them both for joining zmq driver development 16:18:47 droyal, victors: ^^ thanks guys 16:18:55 happy to help 16:18:58 * harlowja_at_home closed launchpad stuff for futurist & automaton so should be good to go for those 16:19:07 thanks droyal and victors 16:19:40 ozamiatin: has the email thread died down about the architecture? 16:20:01 dims_: yeah I think so 16:20:08 thanks 16:20:15 there are a few email threads regarding the use of fanout in oslo messaging 16:20:16 anyone from oslo.service/cache/reports? 16:20:37 Alec: ack 16:20:46 and one suggesting we put some work in fixing teh API documentation 16:21:10 what is the best way to move forward there? 16:21:27 Alec: ozamiatin: turn them into launchpad bugs so we don't forget? 16:21:48 dims_, Alec: ok 16:22:11 bknudson: stevemar oslo.cache doing ok? i saw the new dict backend for nova go in 16:22:13 ok i can help write down the issues that need to be fixed, just need to get started smewhere 16:22:35 sounds good Alec 16:22:36 dims_: I've got a couple of changes proposed to oslo.cache that affect the public API 16:22:49 dims_: yeah, just a few minor change left 16:23:02 bknudson: i added a dsvm job per dhellmann's suggestion 16:23:03 bknudson: oh did you want to talk about that region parameter? 16:23:08 dims_: and then I think it's ready to go... probably needs review of the docs if they're adequate 16:23:45 bknudson: ack, i'll ask a few people to review docs 16:24:03 #action Dims to request a few folks to go through oslo.cache docs 16:24:22 stevemar: I posted a review for dealing with the wacky region global -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199793/ 16:24:39 bknudson: yeah, looking at it no 16:24:40 w 16:24:46 bknudson: it was in reply to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195873/14/keystone/backends.py right? 16:25:13 harlowja_at_home: futurist and automaton picking up consumers? 16:25:13 stevemar: yes, that answers my comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195873/14/keystone/backends.py 16:25:44 bknudson: otay 16:25:55 switching topics 16:25:55 dims_, taskflow +automaton (removing old code) sputnik13 is working on, otherwise yup, so far so good 16:26:00 cool 16:26:05 #topic Ongoing work & Review priorities 16:26:05 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-priorities-tracking 16:26:30 Any stuck reviews? or specs? 16:26:50 oh i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196338/ would be nice for folks 16:27:00 if anyone wants to look at ^ 16:27:00 i am periodically reviewing really old reviews 16:27:33 bknudson: dammit, now i have to change all my get_memoization_decorator calls :P 16:27:38 starred it josh. will do 16:28:11 k opening up the floow 16:28:12 #topic Open discussion 16:28:20 Anyone coming to keystone or nova mid-cycle? 16:28:27 me! 16:28:28 i have moose stickers! 16:28:46 keystone needs a mascot :( 16:28:46 i'll take one of your meese stickers 16:28:50 :-) Moose Stickers! 16:28:58 printed a fresh set thanks to dhellmann's referral to moo.com 16:29:04 I will add it with the Cinder stickers on my office door. 16:29:23 me an a few people from work will be at OSCON next week, if any of you will be there, and it's convenient, I'd like to meet face-to-face just to say hi 16:30:15 we should have a party@openstack.org (apache.org has one!) for coordinating such stuff :) 16:30:25 ihrachyshka: thanks 16:31:20 dims_: bknudson the oslo.cache patches are approved 16:31:34 think we're good for 0.2.0 ? 16:31:47 stevemar: k will wait for those to land 16:32:17 jecarey, if u interested https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197668/ (not sure where this will end-up, ha) 16:32:39 dims_: oh we already had a 0.2.0! 16:32:40 harlowja_at_home, I'll take a look 16:33:23 stevemar: added a note to wait to cut 0.3.0 - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases 16:33:56 i should probably ask people to add their vote there too :) 16:34:48 typically i start a bunch of tests sat/sun and update that etherpad with new versions and SHA on mon morning 16:35:04 jecarey, coool, my comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197668/7/nova/states.py i think still apply, but guess nikola not loooking at them right now, lol 16:35:31 that's all i had. thanks everyone. we can continue on #openstack-oslo 16:35:33 #endmeeting