16:00:06 #startmeeting oslo 16:00:07 Meeting started Mon Sep 21 16:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 16:00:14 courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, dims, haypo, 16:00:17 courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, 16:00:20 courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek 16:00:21 o/ 16:00:22 hi 16:00:22 o/ 16:00:23 hi 16:00:24 o/ 16:00:24 o/ 16:00:25 yo yo 16:00:25 o/ 16:00:26 o/ 16:00:27 o/ 16:00:39 looks like there's been a coup already. 16:00:44 o/ 16:00:45 so your previous meeting host, dims__ will be busy today, i have taken his spot (not his body) 16:00:48 haha 16:01:30 let's get the show on the road! 16:01:31 #topic Action items from last week 16:01:32 sooo 16:01:40 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-09-14-16.19.html 16:01:44 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-09-14-16.19.html 16:01:55 so i think the virtual sprint email was done 16:02:03 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-liberty-virtual-doc-sprint 16:02:18 jecarey, good to go right? 16:02:31 'Kick-off:14:00 UTC on Sept 24th' (from etherpad) 16:02:37 harlowja_at_home, yes ... though due to a family thing, I can't participate anymore. 16:03:09 okies, we will have a honorary kickoff in your name then, someone else can kick i suppose? 16:03:17 * harlowja_at_home does not do so well at kicking (balls or other) 16:04:19 anyways, we'll make it work (kick or not) 16:04:23 o/ 16:04:52 #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 16:05:04 any red flags that anyones seeing? 16:05:12 nothing for keystone 16:05:17 noting for Cinder. 16:05:22 *nothing 16:05:37 Nothing on the Octavia front 16:05:50 good good 16:07:03 #topic Specs specs specs 16:07:23 soo we have a few specs that are nearly ready to get merged, just wanted to see if anyone has any issues with them (or other) 16:07:31 o/ 16:07:41 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204073/ (new privsep work) 16:07:54 seems like people are eager(?) to get that one going 16:08:16 i've requested a y! security folk also look at it (but doesn't seem like that has happened yet) 16:08:37 anyone else that wants to look that one over, please do 16:09:06 it seems to be about a micron away from merging, so this week it will probably move that far 16:09:47 this is proposing a library or server? 16:09:54 * bknudson wonders why this isn't part of OSSG 16:10:26 gus, yt (pretty sure this is the right gus) 16:11:26 bknudson, +1 to it being connected into OSSG 16:11:33 I believe this is actually what OSSG wanted us to do in the first place. 16:11:40 ++ bnemec 16:11:41 bknudson: privsep is a new feature in rootwrap, is that not made clear in the spec? (I haven't read it) 16:11:51 I don't like my odds of finding the ML post where they said that though. :-) 16:12:07 I haven't read the spec. 16:12:35 I know this was discussed by the OSSG and we came up with the same solution 16:12:38 this is the thing we discussed in vancouver 16:12:55 now I'm wondering why this work is proposed to oslo program and not ossg program 16:13:02 although if oslo owns rootwrap that makes sense 16:13:06 because the code is going into rootwrap -- right 16:13:20 and a eventual replacement for rootwrap 16:13:40 I noticed that changing rootwrap is kind of a mess, since nova doesn't actually use "just rootwrap" 16:13:47 you can also configure nova to not use rootwrap 16:14:35 maybe switching to privsep can clean that up too. 16:14:48 (as in, always use privsep rather than rootwrap/direct commands) 16:14:57 ya, i hope that's how this works out :) 16:15:56 so that's spec #1 thats about to go in, please check it out before it merges (soon) 16:16:24 I don't see in the spec an obvious place where it says this is part of rootwrap 16:17:14 spec #2 behind door #2 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219468/ 16:17:14 'Spec for pbr changes for pip' 16:17:14 this one should get pbr a wider audience and help overall (afaik) 16:17:14 making pbr and pip more BFF 16:18:10 bknudson: I didn't either, and it would be good to clarify that. now that I think of it, we also discussed making this a brand new library 16:18:31 if it's a new library why not put it in ossg 16:18:52 dunno 16:18:56 * harlowja_at_home has no objections to this, if its the best thing to do :) 16:19:06 or we can transfer ownership as needed... 16:21:13 #action harlowja_at_home start a ML email thread about privsep and ossg and repo/code ownership 16:21:22 i'll start something on that, it seems like an ok question imho 16:21:31 and one that i'm not sure the answer to :-P 16:22:01 sound ok to folks? 16:22:30 you can ask gus if he's willing to do it first 16:22:33 k 16:22:37 will do 16:23:15 any other specs folks want to bring up that need some attention 16:23:17 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo-specs,n,z 16:24:21 #topic Summit planning 16:24:26 alright, onto the next bigger topic 16:24:36 mitaka is fastly approaching 16:24:52 and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-summit-planning is fastly forming 16:24:59 how many slots does oslo have? 16:25:10 dims__, you have any idea on ^ ? 16:25:40 bknudson: we haven't been told yet 16:26:04 that's probably decided soon right? 16:26:26 i say take over all the slots, lol 16:26:29 :-P 16:26:55 let's make this the "oslo summit" 16:27:12 or maybe wait a little for the 'O' summit 16:27:18 which will be in oslo, lol 16:27:29 anndd that one will def be all oslo, all the time 16:27:44 * harlowja_at_home can not confirm any of the above ^ 16:28:19 anyway, please add ideas, drivers, interested to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-summit-planning 16:28:31 anything and everything accepted (ideas, people, drivers...) 16:28:36 oslo is taking over everything, e.g., "Policy, roles, and finally killing Bug 968696" was a keystone session last time. 16:28:37 bug 968696 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ""admin"-ness not properly scoped" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/968696 16:29:07 "finally pulling off encryption with oslo.messaging (trusted messaging?), how to get from 0 to 60 (aka, how to make it happen)" -- was also done in keystone for a while 16:29:19 :) 16:29:32 if it doesn't work, we'll pass it back to keystone 16:29:33 the cycle of life, lol 16:30:05 *circle of life 16:30:12 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8zLx_JtcQVI/maxresdefault.jpg (or other circle of life reference) 16:30:12 lol 16:30:21 ^ keystone and oslo (all happy) 16:30:47 I thought circle of life was when the lion ate the monkey 16:30:52 lol 16:30:55 that is the other circle 16:31:10 they didn't show those scenes in the movi 16:32:22 i know there are a few other things that could be talked about for taskflow, and possibly a few other libraries, so i'll poke some folks on that 16:32:34 and get those ideas listed on there 16:32:55 #action harlowja_at_home poke folks for taskflow and automaton ideas to get on etherpad for mitaka 16:33:39 #topic Open discussion 16:33:52 anything else folks want to chit-chat about? 16:34:02 vote as well! 16:34:12 dims__, or me, you decide the future 16:34:27 * harlowja_at_home will not build a wall around mexico this time 16:34:35 canada? 16:34:44 maybe canada, to much maple syrup 16:35:37 * harlowja_at_home hasn't had maple syrup in a while, mmm 16:36:36 okie dokie then, speak now or forever hold your peace 16:36:44 *where forever == until next week 16:37:47 exit stage left, lol 16:37:55 thx for showing up folks 16:37:58 :-) Later. 16:38:02 #endmeeting