16:00:13 <dims_> #startmeeting oslo 16:00:13 <dims_> courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, 16:00:13 <dims_> courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, spamaps 16:00:13 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Dec 21 16:00:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:14 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:15 <dims_> courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek, gcb 16:00:17 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 16:00:18 <dims_> Anyone here today? 16:00:20 <dims_> :) 16:00:25 <rpodolyaka> o/ 16:00:25 <gcb> hi 16:00:36 <SpamapS> Oddly enough I'm kind of here... since there's no open schools for me to be taking kids to ;) 16:00:44 <harlowja_at_home> yoooo 16:00:48 <bknudson_> hi 16:00:52 <jecarey> o/ 16:00:53 <dims_> haha SpamapS 16:01:03 <dims_> hi bknudson_ jecarey rpodolyaka gcb 16:01:16 <bogdando> o/ 16:01:22 <dims_> hi bogdando 16:01:35 <dims_> hopefully a quick one today 16:01:37 <dims_> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 16:01:47 <bknudson_> nothing for keystone 16:02:28 <dims_> thanks bknudson_ 16:02:31 <dims_> #topic Releases for Mitaka 16:02:31 <dims_> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259707/ 16:03:16 <harlowja_at_home> ^ looks ok to me 16:03:28 <dims_> rpodolyaka : can you please eye ball the oslo.db changes? see the list-changes job output 16:03:29 <bknudson_> nothing will break this week! 16:03:38 <rpodolyaka> dims: looking 16:03:53 <dims_> bknudson_ :) 16:03:59 <harlowja_at_home> bknudson_, nothing ever breaks, obviously :) 16:04:23 <dims_> harlowja_at_home : i deliberatly held back the oslo.utils review for the timeutils stuff 16:04:28 <harlowja_at_home> kk 16:04:33 <harlowja_at_home> good idear 16:04:36 <rpodolyaka> dims_: oslo.db changes look good to me 16:05:00 <rbradfor> dims_, sorry for the newbie question, what is list-changes job output? 16:05:11 <dims_> harlowja_at_home : bknudson_ : https://travis-ci.org/dims/ looks green except for a nova py34 break that happens only in travis (need to dig into it) 16:05:16 <harlowja_at_home> dims_, do u know if there is any ongoing infra change or something to start to highlight depreciation warnings in some manner? 16:05:29 <harlowja_at_home> did that whole conversation as what to do about depreciation warnings go anywhere? 16:05:39 <dims_> rbradfor : look in the review link above look for "gate-releases-tox-list-changes" job 16:05:48 <dims_> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259707/ 16:05:50 <gcb> rbradfor, http://logs.openstack.org/07/259707/3/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes/f7993cc/console.html 16:06:01 <rbradfor> dims_, gcb, got it, thanks. 16:06:20 <dims_> harlowja_at_home : not that i heard about. we'll have to kick start something, probably based on the keystone mode 16:06:22 <dims_> model 16:06:27 <harlowja_at_home> right 16:06:42 <harlowja_at_home> i'd even be happy with like a alternate log file that depreciation warnings go to 16:06:52 <harlowja_at_home> that shows up in CI, and people can go look at... 16:07:11 <harlowja_at_home> *similar to all the other log files produced from CI runs 16:07:11 <dims_> harlowja_at_home : that may be an easy thing to pull off 16:07:26 <harlowja_at_home> ya, might not be so hard 16:07:41 <dims_> let's find a pattern we can follow 16:07:51 <harlowja_at_home> def 16:07:52 <dims_> #topic Open discussion 16:07:52 <dims_> Any other stuck reviews? 16:08:33 <dims_> rbradfor : if you see the travis link, that shows us running a bunch of py27,py34 tests by inserting oslo.* from master 16:08:35 <bogdando> the work queue spec? 16:08:41 <ozamiatin_> dims_: hi, when we can add mutlinode grenade gate for zmq? 16:08:54 <ozamiatin_> dims_: how can I help with that? 16:09:16 <dims_> ozamiatin_ : whenever you are ready, need to figure out how to do that :) 16:09:46 <rbradfor> dims_, thanks, looking at the output. helps me understand the weekly release process. 16:10:03 <dims_> bogdando : so are you happy with what you have there in the spec? 16:10:07 <ozamiatin_> dims_: ok, I'll look into it :) 16:10:09 <bogdando> yes 16:10:19 <bogdando> dims_, added example flow for a call 16:10:21 <dims_> bogdando : do we need to outline the API in the spec or we can do that later? 16:10:23 <bogdando> addressed comments 16:10:39 <bogdando> That depends on how deep we go in specs 16:11:14 <bogdando> IMO, all API details should be outside 16:11:36 <bogdando> as you suggested for example https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-messaging-work-queue-api 16:11:36 <dims_> bogdando : looks like some traffic in etherpad 16:11:38 <dims_> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-messaging-work-queue-api 16:11:46 <dims_> so i'll cast my +2 on the spec 16:11:50 <bogdando> thank you 16:12:03 <gcb> dims, harlowja_at_home> what's the right process if our new version of oslo lib breaks other projects ? just block the version in g-r ? 16:12:29 <dims_> gcb : we block in g-r, cut a new release with a fix 16:12:50 <dims_> sometimes we cut a new release first since g-r takes a while 16:13:29 <dims_> harlowja_at_home : gcb : ozamiatin_ : please cast your vote on the work queue spec too 16:13:35 <gcb> you mean , fix and submit a commit in openstack/release firstly ? 16:13:37 <dims_> anyone else who is interested as well 16:14:11 <dims_> gcb : yes, fix in say oslo.messaging, submit a commit in releases/ repo and then submit a commit in requirements/ repo 16:14:11 <gcb> will look at the spec :-) 16:14:26 <dims_> thanks gcb : it has a long history 16:14:50 <gcb> dims_ , got it ,thanks 16:14:57 <harlowja_at_home> dims_ bogdando ya, hmmm that one :-P i'm somewhat biased to say just move the taskflow jobboard concept to tooz and then poof, this whole spec sorta isn't needed (afaik) 16:15:09 <harlowja_at_home> so i'm refraining from my biased vote :-P 16:16:00 <dims_> harlowja_at_home : let's see how it shakes out...right now i am saying "yes, we want/need it" :) 16:16:17 <harlowja_at_home> ya, fair enough, idk how it will all shake out yet either 16:16:48 <dims_> gcb : do you want to take that timeutils up with the nova folks? 16:17:50 <gcb> yes, so I need talk with nova guys in IRC and submit new commit , right ? 16:18:01 <bogdando> harlowja, at least the failure modes and contracts might come in handy 16:18:16 <dims_> gcb : yes please, i'd say just submit a new commit first and then talk to them 16:18:16 <bogdando> harlowja, that is how things should have been designed for RPC 16:18:21 <harlowja_at_home> bogdando, agreed 16:18:41 <gcb> dims_ , ok, will do that 16:18:52 <dims_> so can we skip next week's meeting? 16:19:14 <dims_> meet next on Jan 4th? 16:19:22 <gcb> I think most of you are in holiday :-) 16:19:44 <rpodolyaka> that's the best time to work :P 16:19:50 <bknudson_> I'm ok with skipping next meeting 16:19:51 <dims_> haha 16:19:55 <ozamiatin_> dims_: ok to skip 16:20:27 <harlowja_at_home> sureee 16:20:34 <dims_> rpodolyaka : gcb : +1 and the CI would be all ours too 16:20:48 <rpodolyaka> :) 16:21:01 <dims_> cool. 16:21:11 <dims_> any other things we need to talk about? 16:21:41 <dims_> harlowja_at_home : you and me can poke on the deprecation stuff on infra 16:21:50 <harlowja_at_home> dims_, def 16:22:01 <rbradfor> dims_, I have a few log/config/service specific questions. I'll bring up in oslo channel. 16:22:07 <dims_> rbradfor : ack 16:23:00 <dims_> so Wish everyone happy holidays and a very happy new year as well. (Russia/Ukraine - we'll wish you again next month :) 16:23:13 <harlowja_at_home> :) 16:23:31 <gcb> :) 16:23:34 <dims_> thanks everyone 16:23:39 <harlowja_at_home> np! 16:23:48 <dims_> #endmeeting