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16:00:12 <johnsom> o/
16:00:13 <harlowja_at_home> howdy folks, let's see if anyone shows up today :)
16:00:26 <jecarey> o/
16:00:28 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, haypo,
16:00:28 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, spamaps
16:00:28 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek, gcb, Nakato
16:00:32 <bknudson> hi
16:00:33 <rpodolyaka> o/
16:00:39 <ozamiatin> o/
16:00:48 <stevemar> o/
16:00:48 <harlowja_at_home> hi hi, i'm guessing light attendance today (because summit) but let's see
16:00:50 <redrobot> o/
16:01:08 <stevemar> harlowja_at_home: ya never know !
16:01:36 <harlowja_at_home> stevemar, agreed, will wait a few seconds to see who all shows :-P
16:01:37 <bknudson> take a week-long nap to prepare for the summit
16:01:42 <johnsom> I bet it will be a lot lighter next week....
16:01:45 <harlowja_at_home> ;)
16:01:59 <stevemar> johnsom: yeah, probably :)
16:02:10 <harlowja_at_home> it will be keynote or something next time around, ha
16:02:23 <harlowja_at_home> (next week at this time)
16:02:37 <harlowja_at_home> ok, guess we should do some meeting stuffs
16:02:39 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
16:02:47 <harlowja_at_home> so i guess keystone + oslo.log had some issues
16:02:53 <harlowja_at_home> or that's what i saw from dims
16:03:06 <bknudson> I haven't had a chance to look at it.
16:03:07 <stevemar> harlowja_at_home: yep, ajeager summed it up on the ML
16:03:14 <johnsom> Nothing here, though I am still interested in a taskflow release
16:03:47 <harlowja_at_home> stevemar, agreed, seems like a few options to resolve that, babel can release, oslo.i8ln can
16:03:50 <stevemar> there were a few factors at play, keystone wasn't respecting upper constraints, but oslo.log was pulling in a new version of babel, via oslo.i18n
16:03:51 <jungleboyj> o/
16:03:52 <bknudson> I proposed a change to debtcollector to get keystoneclient, etc., docs generating correctly: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305489/
16:04:02 <jungleboyj> harlowja_at_home: No flags from Cinder.
16:04:04 <harlowja_at_home> bknudson, thx
16:04:08 <harlowja_at_home> jungleboyj, thx
16:04:47 <ihrachys> no flags from neutron. though I saw some failure in oslo master jobs that may be related to late changes in oslo.versionedobjects. I would need to look into logs.
16:05:04 <harlowja_at_home> hmmm
16:05:19 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, thx, let's investigate that before i do much of any release proposals
16:05:23 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Release proposals
16:05:55 <harlowja_at_home> so i've made a little script to make a bunch of release proposals automatically, so i'll probably start uploading that to the release repo soon
16:06:09 <harlowja_at_home> i just don't want to start releasing to much before the summit and when people aren't around, lol
16:06:21 <harlowja_at_home> tool @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306648/
16:06:30 <ihrachys> nice of you :)
16:06:39 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, ya, i'm all about the niceness
16:06:56 <harlowja_at_home> so i might just run that script/tool and upload the change but will put WIP on it, because of summit
16:07:15 <harlowja_at_home> and people can let me know if they want me to split off any release change from that bigger release
16:07:19 <harlowja_at_home> johnsom, i think u qualify for that :)
16:07:42 <harlowja_at_home> since i think certain releases will be ok this week, just i think other ones have alot of changes backlogged and i'd rather not this week ;)
16:08:04 <johnsom> Yeah, I can wait until after the summit though.  It's not a burning issue, just helps with our docs
16:08:17 <harlowja_at_home> k
16:08:29 <ihrachys> harlowja_at_home: yeah, just validated, new o.vo breaks neutron test. will look right now.
16:08:29 <harlowja_at_home> a few like debtcollector with bknudson changes and taskflow probably are ok
16:08:34 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, thx
16:08:39 <kgiusti> I've got a minor 'tweak' to liberty stable https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307207/
16:08:59 <harlowja_at_home> kgiusti, cool
16:09:08 <kgiusti> maybe too little too late.
16:09:23 <kgiusti> there's been confusion about what exactly happens to qpidd in mitaka
16:09:27 <harlowja_at_home> :)
16:09:37 <bknudson> since we've got a stable/mitaka that would put stable/liberty in the security-fixes-only mode
16:09:44 <harlowja_at_home> ah
16:09:51 <ihrachys> bknudson: not really. it's High+ bugs
16:09:52 <kgiusti> :(
16:09:52 <bknudson> aka phase 2
16:09:59 <bknudson> http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html
16:10:00 <ihrachys> bknudson: CVE only is N-2
16:10:08 <ihrachys> "Phase II (6-12 months): Only critical bugfixes and security patches are acceptable"
16:11:09 <kgiusti> dims et.al. are doing a 'what's new in oslo' preso at summit
16:11:11 <zzzeek> \o
16:11:28 <harlowja_at_home> kgiusti, oh nice
16:11:28 <kgiusti> I wonder how much it would take in kickbacks to get him to talk a bit about amqp10
16:11:49 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Summit preparation(s)
16:11:59 <kgiusti> at least let people know there's still support for qpidd in mitaka
16:12:12 <harlowja_at_home> so that's a good point, what else are people going to be doing at the summit that is possibly oslo related ?
16:12:17 <harlowja_at_home> besides the oslo sessions :-P
16:12:47 <harlowja_at_home> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092423.html (oslo stuffs)
16:12:50 <kgiusti> my preso is wait-listed, FWIW
16:13:00 <harlowja_at_home> :(
16:13:14 <harlowja_at_home> i'm also looking for folks to take lead on some of the sessions in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Oslo
16:13:25 <johnsom> LBaaS/Octavia is presenting, but I don't think we plan to talk much about taskflow this time.
16:13:35 <harlowja_at_home> each one of those etherpads i put a little template format in (it'd be nice to expand it a little)
16:14:02 <harlowja_at_home> any volunteers to fill some of those out ;)
16:14:12 <harlowja_at_home> i'll fill out the ones that people don't (eventually, ha)
16:14:12 <zzzeek> does anyone want to talk about oslo.db stuff
16:14:18 <kgiusti> I've slapped a little verbage on this one: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-oslo-messaging-drivers
16:14:22 <harlowja_at_home> zzzeek, at the summit or here?
16:14:26 <zzzeek> at the summit
16:14:30 <harlowja_at_home> sure
16:14:37 <harlowja_at_home> i'm all for talking about it
16:14:46 <harlowja_at_home> what do we want to talk about :)
16:14:47 * zzzeek doesnt have much to talk about :)  but can answer questions
16:14:59 * rpodolyaka too :)
16:15:06 <harlowja_at_home> we should have a part of the dev lounge called 'oslo IT support'
16:15:06 <zzzeek> rpodolyaka: you coming ?
16:15:29 <harlowja_at_home> we can get a desk from somewhere and have someone doing 'oslo q/a'
16:15:37 * harlowja_at_home only sort of joking, lol
16:17:15 <rpodolyaka> yeah, will be there
16:17:15 <zzzeek> rpodolyaka: great
16:17:15 <jungleboyj> :-)  Just reboot.  THat fixes everything.
16:17:15 <harlowja_at_home> ;)
16:17:16 <harlowja_at_home> turn it on and off again, lol
16:17:16 <bknudson> do I have to get a session just to get the engine? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/common/sql/migration_helpers.py#n178
16:17:16 <dmitryme> re doing anything something beside Oslo design sessions - I am going to attend Operators sessesions related to messaging
16:17:16 <harlowja_at_home> dmitryme, cool
16:17:19 <dmitryme> I guess it might turn into messaging Q&A session :-)
16:17:27 <harlowja_at_home> :)
16:17:55 <rpodolyaka> bknudson: not necessary, https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/kilo/make-enginefacade-a-facade.html#core-connection-methods
16:18:04 <harlowja_at_home> ok, so i guess if folks have any oslo or neat sessions, feel free to let others in #openstack-oslo know so that some of us can be show up and heckle (and/or be supportive)
16:18:39 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Stuck reviews and/or specs
16:18:56 <harlowja_at_home> anything that folks here should be aware of to help review
16:19:48 <harlowja_at_home> guess everyone preparing for the summit then, lol
16:19:54 <harlowja_at_home> more slides, less code, lol
16:21:33 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Open discussion
16:21:46 <harlowja_at_home> anything else that people want to bring up
16:22:04 <harlowja_at_home> otherwise i guess we will all see everyone in austin (for those who are going, for those who are not we will virtually see u)
16:23:49 <harlowja_at_home> ok, anything else from folks?
16:24:02 <harlowja_at_home> speak now or forever hold your peace :-P
16:25:14 * harlowja_at_home wonders if a netsplit happened, because its oddly quiet now, lol
16:25:28 <kgiusti> zzzZZZZZzzzzz....
16:25:31 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:25:41 <harlowja_at_home> ok, i guess we'll see everyone next week :-P
16:25:53 <kgiusti> see ya
16:26:00 <harlowja_at_home> #endmeeting