16:00:02 #startmeeting oslo 16:00:03 Meeting started Mon Apr 18 16:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:07 The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 16:00:12 o/ 16:00:13 howdy folks, let's see if anyone shows up today :) 16:00:26 o/ 16:00:28 courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, haypo, 16:00:28 courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, spamaps 16:00:28 courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek, gcb, Nakato 16:00:32 hi 16:00:33 o/ 16:00:39 o/ 16:00:48 o/ 16:00:48 hi hi, i'm guessing light attendance today (because summit) but let's see 16:00:50 o/ 16:01:08 harlowja_at_home: ya never know ! 16:01:36 stevemar, agreed, will wait a few seconds to see who all shows :-P 16:01:37 take a week-long nap to prepare for the summit 16:01:42 I bet it will be a lot lighter next week.... 16:01:45 ;) 16:01:59 johnsom: yeah, probably :) 16:02:10 it will be keynote or something next time around, ha 16:02:23 (next week at this time) 16:02:37 ok, guess we should do some meeting stuffs 16:02:39 #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 16:02:47 so i guess keystone + oslo.log had some issues 16:02:53 or that's what i saw from dims 16:03:06 I haven't had a chance to look at it. 16:03:07 harlowja_at_home: yep, ajeager summed it up on the ML 16:03:14 Nothing here, though I am still interested in a taskflow release 16:03:47 stevemar, agreed, seems like a few options to resolve that, babel can release, oslo.i8ln can 16:03:50 there were a few factors at play, keystone wasn't respecting upper constraints, but oslo.log was pulling in a new version of babel, via oslo.i18n 16:03:51 o/ 16:03:52 I proposed a change to debtcollector to get keystoneclient, etc., docs generating correctly: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305489/ 16:04:02 harlowja_at_home: No flags from Cinder. 16:04:04 bknudson, thx 16:04:08 jungleboyj, thx 16:04:47 no flags from neutron. though I saw some failure in oslo master jobs that may be related to late changes in oslo.versionedobjects. I would need to look into logs. 16:05:04 hmmm 16:05:19 ihrachys, thx, let's investigate that before i do much of any release proposals 16:05:23 #topic Release proposals 16:05:55 so i've made a little script to make a bunch of release proposals automatically, so i'll probably start uploading that to the release repo soon 16:06:09 i just don't want to start releasing to much before the summit and when people aren't around, lol 16:06:21 tool @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306648/ 16:06:30 nice of you :) 16:06:39 ihrachys, ya, i'm all about the niceness 16:06:56 so i might just run that script/tool and upload the change but will put WIP on it, because of summit 16:07:15 and people can let me know if they want me to split off any release change from that bigger release 16:07:19 johnsom, i think u qualify for that :) 16:07:42 since i think certain releases will be ok this week, just i think other ones have alot of changes backlogged and i'd rather not this week ;) 16:08:04 Yeah, I can wait until after the summit though. It's not a burning issue, just helps with our docs 16:08:17 k 16:08:29 harlowja_at_home: yeah, just validated, new o.vo breaks neutron test. will look right now. 16:08:29 a few like debtcollector with bknudson changes and taskflow probably are ok 16:08:34 ihrachys, thx 16:08:39 I've got a minor 'tweak' to liberty stable https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307207/ 16:08:59 kgiusti, cool 16:09:08 maybe too little too late. 16:09:23 there's been confusion about what exactly happens to qpidd in mitaka 16:09:27 :) 16:09:37 since we've got a stable/mitaka that would put stable/liberty in the security-fixes-only mode 16:09:44 ah 16:09:51 bknudson: not really. it's High+ bugs 16:09:52 :( 16:09:52 aka phase 2 16:09:59 http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html 16:10:00 bknudson: CVE only is N-2 16:10:08 "Phase II (6-12 months): Only critical bugfixes and security patches are acceptable" 16:11:09 dims et.al. are doing a 'what's new in oslo' preso at summit 16:11:11 \o 16:11:28 kgiusti, oh nice 16:11:28 I wonder how much it would take in kickbacks to get him to talk a bit about amqp10 16:11:49 #topic Summit preparation(s) 16:11:59 at least let people know there's still support for qpidd in mitaka 16:12:12 so that's a good point, what else are people going to be doing at the summit that is possibly oslo related ? 16:12:17 besides the oslo sessions :-P 16:12:47 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092423.html (oslo stuffs) 16:12:50 my preso is wait-listed, FWIW 16:13:00 :( 16:13:14 i'm also looking for folks to take lead on some of the sessions in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Oslo 16:13:25 LBaaS/Octavia is presenting, but I don't think we plan to talk much about taskflow this time. 16:13:35 each one of those etherpads i put a little template format in (it'd be nice to expand it a little) 16:14:02 any volunteers to fill some of those out ;) 16:14:12 i'll fill out the ones that people don't (eventually, ha) 16:14:12 does anyone want to talk about oslo.db stuff 16:14:18 I've slapped a little verbage on this one: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-oslo-messaging-drivers 16:14:22 zzzeek, at the summit or here? 16:14:26 at the summit 16:14:30 sure 16:14:37 i'm all for talking about it 16:14:46 what do we want to talk about :) 16:14:47 * zzzeek doesnt have much to talk about :) but can answer questions 16:14:59 * rpodolyaka too :) 16:15:06 we should have a part of the dev lounge called 'oslo IT support' 16:15:06 rpodolyaka: you coming ? 16:15:29 we can get a desk from somewhere and have someone doing 'oslo q/a' 16:15:37 * harlowja_at_home only sort of joking, lol 16:17:15 yeah, will be there 16:17:15 rpodolyaka: great 16:17:15 :-) Just reboot. THat fixes everything. 16:17:15 ;) 16:17:16 turn it on and off again, lol 16:17:16 do I have to get a session just to get the engine? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/common/sql/migration_helpers.py#n178 16:17:16 re doing anything something beside Oslo design sessions - I am going to attend Operators sessesions related to messaging 16:17:16 dmitryme, cool 16:17:19 I guess it might turn into messaging Q&A session :-) 16:17:27 :) 16:17:55 bknudson: not necessary, https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/kilo/make-enginefacade-a-facade.html#core-connection-methods 16:18:04 ok, so i guess if folks have any oslo or neat sessions, feel free to let others in #openstack-oslo know so that some of us can be show up and heckle (and/or be supportive) 16:18:39 #topic Stuck reviews and/or specs 16:18:56 anything that folks here should be aware of to help review 16:19:48 guess everyone preparing for the summit then, lol 16:19:54 more slides, less code, lol 16:21:33 #topic Open discussion 16:21:46 anything else that people want to bring up 16:22:04 otherwise i guess we will all see everyone in austin (for those who are going, for those who are not we will virtually see u) 16:23:49 ok, anything else from folks? 16:24:02 speak now or forever hold your peace :-P 16:25:14 * harlowja_at_home wonders if a netsplit happened, because its oddly quiet now, lol 16:25:28 zzzZZZZZzzzzz.... 16:25:31 lol 16:25:41 ok, i guess we'll see everyone next week :-P 16:25:53 see ya 16:26:00 #endmeeting