16:00:05 <harlowja_at_home> #startmeeting oslo 16:00:07 <openstack> Meeting started Mon May 23 16:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:08 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:11 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 16:00:19 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims, dougwig 16:00:19 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for e0ne, flaper87, garyk, gcb, GheRivero, haypo, ihrachyshka, jd__ 16:00:19 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, lxsli 16:00:19 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor, redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps 16:00:19 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan 16:00:21 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for zzzeek 16:00:25 <rbradfor> o/ 16:00:29 <kgiusti> o/ 16:00:31 <johnsom> o/ 16:00:31 <harlowja_at_home> o/ 16:00:32 <dims> o/ (partially here :) 16:00:34 <bknudson> aloha 16:00:37 * dhellmann listens in partly 16:00:37 <sileht> o/ 16:00:41 <harlowja_at_home> hi theres 16:01:03 <ihrachys> o/ 16:01:42 <harlowja_at_home> cool, guess we can get started 16:01:48 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 16:02:02 <bknudson> none for keystone that I'm aware of. 16:02:07 <johnsom> Nothing to report (I was traveling, so...) 16:02:17 <ihrachys> nothing on neutron side. we had a patch for the way we spin up rpc workers using oslo.messaging merged and reverted due to a breakage, but I guess we are following up on that revert with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313277/ 16:02:17 <harlowja_at_home> thx johnsom bknudson 16:02:38 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, are those possibly the cause of http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-neutron-py27-with-oslo-master/49f6434/console.html ? 16:02:56 * harlowja_at_home was going to jump into neutron channel and see if anyone knows what these are about 16:03:01 <harlowja_at_home> http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-neutron-py27-with-oslo-master == sad 16:03:16 <ihrachys> not sure. but if you get it with latest master, probably no since we reverted it 16:03:25 <harlowja_at_home> hmmm, ok 16:03:33 <ihrachys> I will take a look right now on the failure logs. 16:03:52 <harlowja_at_home> thx 16:04:12 <harlowja_at_home> sort of seems like its testing oslo.messaging, but i'm not quite sure 16:04:35 <ihrachys> we have some code that messes with timeouts for clients 16:04:36 <lxsli> o/ 16:04:50 <ihrachys> doing back-off procedure for clients on timeouts for scaling reasons 16:04:54 <ihrachys> merged in Newton 16:05:03 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, ya, i wonder if that might need tweaking due to newer oslo.messaging code 16:05:07 <harlowja_at_home> lxsli, hi there 16:05:10 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Releases for newton 16:05:15 <ihrachys> harlowja_at_home: I will definitely take a look 16:05:18 <harlowja_at_home> which segways into the releases i guess 16:05:25 <harlowja_at_home> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317111/ 16:05:38 <harlowja_at_home> i have that up, if people want newer versions of things to release let me know 16:06:03 <ihrachys> harlowja_at_home: I guess you will postpone oslo.messaging until we clear neutron thing 16:06:03 <harlowja_at_home> but ihrachys it'd be nice to have some look at the errors happening before that offically merges and releases happen (and then neutron will break?) 16:06:04 <jungleboyj> o/ 16:06:24 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, i can do that, unless u think its a non-issue 16:06:30 <harlowja_at_home> jungleboyj, how's cinder 16:06:33 <ihrachys> harlowja_at_home: exactly, let's not break things. maybe split the releases patch into two 16:06:39 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, k, can do 16:06:47 <ihrachys> thanks 16:06:56 <jungleboyj> harlowja_at_home: Fine as far as I know. :-) No flags to raise. 16:07:02 <harlowja_at_home> #action harlowja_at_home split https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317111/ into two (oslo.messaging and other) 16:07:09 <harlowja_at_home> jungleboyj, cool 16:07:17 <jungleboyj> :-) 16:07:27 <harlowja_at_home> http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-cinder-py27-with-oslo-master?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&end=2016-05-23T15:52:38.117Z looks good for cinder so i'm happy :-P 16:07:47 <harlowja_at_home> johnsom, i'd be nice to get a http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-octavia-py27-with-oslo-master?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&end=2016-05-23T15:52:38.117Z i think to 16:07:52 <harlowja_at_home> let me try to do that 16:08:45 <harlowja_at_home> anyways, if people need me to adjust https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317111/ let me know (comment on the review is fine) 16:09:07 <harlowja_at_home> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318604/ (pbr release) is also happening 16:09:38 <ihrachys> dougwig: can we have someone take a look at octavia test failure with oslo master? ^ 16:09:51 <harlowja_at_home> oh, is it octavia related 16:10:04 <ihrachys> harlowja_at_home: wait, where is failure 16:10:11 <ihrachys> or I miss context of the discussion :D 16:10:30 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, oh sorry, i was just saying that it'd be nice to have periodic jobs against oslo master for octavia :) 16:10:33 <harlowja_at_home> they don't exist yet ;) 16:10:37 <johnsom> I can look at Octavia issues. is it the 318604? 16:10:43 <ihrachys> harlowja_at_home: aha. ok, sorry. false alarm. 16:10:48 <harlowja_at_home> np :) 16:10:52 <johnsom> Yeah, I didn't think we had them yet 16:11:14 <harlowja_at_home> #action harlowja_at_home setup octavia + oslo master jobs (or try to) 16:11:22 <harlowja_at_home> let's see if we can get them :-P 16:11:29 <johnsom> harlowja_at_home You know how to find me if there is something I can help with 16:11:41 <harlowja_at_home> i'll come get u if needed :-P 16:11:47 <harlowja_at_home> where u live again 16:11:48 <harlowja_at_home> lol 16:12:03 <johnsom> Oregon, it's a short drive.... grin 16:12:07 <harlowja_at_home> :-p 16:12:35 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Newton specs 16:12:49 <harlowja_at_home> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo-specs,n,z 16:13:14 <harlowja_at_home> it would be super to have folks that are interested review more of those (myself included, ha) 16:13:19 <jungleboyj> harlowja_at_home: Oh sweet, who set up the periodic job for Cinder? 16:13:30 <harlowja_at_home> i think that would be dims 16:13:42 <harlowja_at_home> i'll setup an octavia one and then i'll know how to do it :-P (i don't think its hard) 16:14:00 <dims> y should be easy hopefully 16:14:48 <harlowja_at_home> jd__, u around 16:14:54 <harlowja_at_home> i guess http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-ceilometer-py27-with-oslo-master might be something also 16:15:11 <harlowja_at_home> although i think that's the keystonemiddleware issue 16:15:12 <harlowja_at_home> anyways 16:15:20 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Stuck reviews 16:15:35 <harlowja_at_home> any stuck reviews that we can raise so folks can try to unstick them? 16:16:06 <harlowja_at_home> don't all speak up at once now, lol 16:16:43 <bknudson> I asked / was asked some questions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304923/ 16:17:03 <rpodolyaka> bknudson: yeah, I'll respond to that one 16:17:03 <lxsli> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293561/ needs reviews 16:17:05 <bknudson> "Fix db_version checking for sqlalchemy-migrate " 16:17:20 <harlowja_at_home> sqlalchemy-migrate woah 16:17:36 <bknudson> keystone still uses sqlalchemy-migrate 16:17:54 <bknudson> haven't figured out how to switch to alembic... and haven't had a great reason to either. 16:18:03 <harlowja_at_home> cool cool, good to know 16:18:36 <rbradfor> if we are wanting to cleanup incubator code it may be good to get a +1 on reviews that are stuck in other projects. 16:19:00 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, where is the list of all those again 16:19:13 <rpodolyaka> bknudson: in oslo.db we have some utils to support both at the same time, so that you can eventually migrate to alembic, but it's not pretty and I doubt anyone used it in the wild :( 16:19:21 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, i'll +1 some stuff (or maybe liasons here can help) 16:19:46 <bknudson> rpodolyaka: can you point me to some docs for the tools? 16:19:47 <rpodolyaka> bknudson: IIRC, at some point zzzeek wanted to add support for sqlalchemy-migrate migrations to alembic 16:19:48 <rbradfor> unfortunately they fall under several topics, so not so easy to point to 16:20:19 <bknudson> any docs for switching from s-m to alembic would be handy. 16:20:45 <rbradfor> This is the link to the etherpad with more overview of adoption https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-libraries-adoption. Reviews list per project may be dated, will look at it 16:21:02 <harlowja_at_home> also that reminded me https://github.com/openstack/oslo.tools is now up, so i think i can go through the final stages of moving oslo-incubator ---> openstack attic 16:21:06 <rpodolyaka> bknudson: let me take a look, but I'm afraid we don't have much, except for the API reference... 16:21:07 <bknudson> maybe just needs some kind of indicator that after this version, switch to alembic, which alembic would handle. 16:21:18 <harlowja_at_home> the tools repo there is just the tools from oslo-incubator 16:21:45 <harlowja_at_home> (the only part of the incubator that afaik was still used) 16:21:57 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, thx 16:22:19 <harlowja_at_home> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-libraries-adoption 16:22:20 <rbradfor> harlowja_at_home, is there a fuel liason? 16:22:31 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, not that i am aware of 16:22:44 <harlowja_at_home> dims, do u know anyone at mirantis that might be a candiate for that 16:23:13 * harlowja_at_home doesn't see fuel @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Oslo 16:23:18 <bknudson> oslo.tools doesn't show up in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack/tree/ ... wonder why that is? 16:23:25 <harlowja_at_home> bknudson, that's weird :-/ 16:23:37 <bknudson> I'll ask on infra after the meeting. 16:23:40 <harlowja_at_home> kk 16:23:51 <harlowja_at_home> wonder how it can showup on github without being there, weird 16:23:55 <bknudson> I have a new process for keeping a local copy of the repos using http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack/tree/ 16:24:37 <harlowja_at_home> cool 16:24:43 <harlowja_at_home> i should do that to 16:24:55 <harlowja_at_home> track all the openstack :-P 16:25:39 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Open discussion 16:25:48 <bknudson> remember to add oslo.tools to your watched projects: https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/projects 16:25:54 <harlowja_at_home> bknudson, thx 16:26:19 <harlowja_at_home> i gotta use that tree repo later (currently i just checkout repos individually) 16:26:52 <bknudson> it's just git clone the openstack/openstack , git submodule init oslo.* 16:27:07 <bknudson> then when you git pull it updates the ones that have changed. 16:27:15 <harlowja_at_home> cool 16:27:28 <harlowja_at_home> kgiusti, u are all set on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319452/ right? 16:27:31 <rbradfor> bknudson, is this something new, or old and not clearly documented 16:27:55 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, also thx for the draft blog email, i'll check that out today (just wanted to let u know i got it) 16:27:58 <bknudson> rbradfor: openstack/openstack has existed forever as far as I know 16:28:08 <bknudson> I just didn't know how to use submodules 16:28:47 <rbradfor> harlowja_at_home, sure. generally one just blogs, but I'd like a second eye on it, as we could use it as a base point for talking about individual libraries 16:28:59 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, cools 16:29:17 <sileht> openstack/openstack is not really up2date 16:29:18 <harlowja_at_home> jroll, u are still thinking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308398 might not be needed right? (if u are around) 16:29:36 <jroll> harlowja_at_home: it isn't on my priority list at the moment 16:29:47 <harlowja_at_home> lxsli, ^ that might affect the parser stuffs there 16:29:53 <harlowja_at_home> jroll, thx, that's fine with me :) 16:30:03 <jroll> np 16:30:15 * jroll wips for now 16:30:24 <harlowja_at_home> thx 16:31:24 <harlowja_at_home> alright anything else folks want to talk about, if not guess we can end early 16:31:36 <harlowja_at_home> i was thinking i'll send out a ML email to get https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Oslo updated 16:31:48 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, i'll poke about a fuel liason in that email as well 16:32:21 <rbradfor> harlowja_at_home, thanks. There were issues with a failing bandit test being required (seems it's not now), so I'll start with a recheck 16:32:22 <sileht> harlowja_at_home, why fuel liaison do they consume our libs ? 16:32:23 <harlowja_at_home> poke and/or mention 16:33:39 <harlowja_at_home> good question, and i shall investigate that before mentioning oslo liason in that email ;) 16:33:54 <harlowja_at_home> to many fueld repos, lol 16:34:12 <harlowja_at_home> https://github.com/openstack?page=1&query=fuel 16:34:22 <harlowja_at_home> page 1 of 5 :-/ 16:34:59 <sileht> most of them are puppet stuff 16:35:58 <harlowja_at_home> ya, lots of plugins 16:36:12 <harlowja_at_home> anyways, i'll see if fuel wants/needs a liason 16:37:03 <harlowja_at_home> okie dokie, anything else from folks? otherwise 20 minutes of your time back :-P 16:37:51 <harlowja_at_home> see ya'll on #openstack-oslo then :) 16:37:53 <dougwig> ihrachys: aye, link? 16:38:05 <ihrachys> dougwig: that was false alarm, sorry. 16:38:09 <harlowja_at_home> dougwig, false alarm afaik :) 16:38:15 <dougwig> ihrachys: ok, no worries. :) 16:38:29 <harlowja_at_home> #endmeeting