16:00:05 #startmeeting oslo 16:00:07 Meeting started Mon May 23 16:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 16:00:19 courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims, dougwig 16:00:19 courtesy ping for e0ne, flaper87, garyk, gcb, GheRivero, haypo, ihrachyshka, jd__ 16:00:19 courtesy ping for jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, lxsli 16:00:19 courtesy ping for Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor, redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps 16:00:19 courtesy ping for sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan 16:00:21 courtesy ping for zzzeek 16:00:25 o/ 16:00:29 o/ 16:00:31 o/ 16:00:31 o/ 16:00:32 o/ (partially here :) 16:00:34 aloha 16:00:37 * dhellmann listens in partly 16:00:37 o/ 16:00:41 hi theres 16:01:03 o/ 16:01:42 cool, guess we can get started 16:01:48 #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 16:02:02 none for keystone that I'm aware of. 16:02:07 Nothing to report (I was traveling, so...) 16:02:17 nothing on neutron side. we had a patch for the way we spin up rpc workers using oslo.messaging merged and reverted due to a breakage, but I guess we are following up on that revert with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313277/ 16:02:17 thx johnsom bknudson 16:02:38 ihrachys, are those possibly the cause of http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-neutron-py27-with-oslo-master/49f6434/console.html ? 16:02:56 * harlowja_at_home was going to jump into neutron channel and see if anyone knows what these are about 16:03:01 http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-neutron-py27-with-oslo-master == sad 16:03:16 not sure. but if you get it with latest master, probably no since we reverted it 16:03:25 hmmm, ok 16:03:33 I will take a look right now on the failure logs. 16:03:52 thx 16:04:12 sort of seems like its testing oslo.messaging, but i'm not quite sure 16:04:35 we have some code that messes with timeouts for clients 16:04:36 o/ 16:04:50 doing back-off procedure for clients on timeouts for scaling reasons 16:04:54 merged in Newton 16:05:03 ihrachys, ya, i wonder if that might need tweaking due to newer oslo.messaging code 16:05:07 lxsli, hi there 16:05:10 #topic Releases for newton 16:05:15 harlowja_at_home: I will definitely take a look 16:05:18 which segways into the releases i guess 16:05:25 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317111/ 16:05:38 i have that up, if people want newer versions of things to release let me know 16:06:03 harlowja_at_home: I guess you will postpone oslo.messaging until we clear neutron thing 16:06:03 but ihrachys it'd be nice to have some look at the errors happening before that offically merges and releases happen (and then neutron will break?) 16:06:04 o/ 16:06:24 ihrachys, i can do that, unless u think its a non-issue 16:06:30 jungleboyj, how's cinder 16:06:33 harlowja_at_home: exactly, let's not break things. maybe split the releases patch into two 16:06:39 ihrachys, k, can do 16:06:47 thanks 16:06:56 harlowja_at_home: Fine as far as I know. :-) No flags to raise. 16:07:02 #action harlowja_at_home split https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317111/ into two (oslo.messaging and other) 16:07:09 jungleboyj, cool 16:07:17 :-) 16:07:27 http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-cinder-py27-with-oslo-master?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&end=2016-05-23T15:52:38.117Z looks good for cinder so i'm happy :-P 16:07:47 johnsom, i'd be nice to get a http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-octavia-py27-with-oslo-master?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&end=2016-05-23T15:52:38.117Z i think to 16:07:52 let me try to do that 16:08:45 anyways, if people need me to adjust https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317111/ let me know (comment on the review is fine) 16:09:07 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318604/ (pbr release) is also happening 16:09:38 dougwig: can we have someone take a look at octavia test failure with oslo master? ^ 16:09:51 oh, is it octavia related 16:10:04 harlowja_at_home: wait, where is failure 16:10:11 or I miss context of the discussion :D 16:10:30 ihrachys, oh sorry, i was just saying that it'd be nice to have periodic jobs against oslo master for octavia :) 16:10:33 they don't exist yet ;) 16:10:37 I can look at Octavia issues. is it the 318604? 16:10:43 harlowja_at_home: aha. ok, sorry. false alarm. 16:10:48 np :) 16:10:52 Yeah, I didn't think we had them yet 16:11:14 #action harlowja_at_home setup octavia + oslo master jobs (or try to) 16:11:22 let's see if we can get them :-P 16:11:29 harlowja_at_home You know how to find me if there is something I can help with 16:11:41 i'll come get u if needed :-P 16:11:47 where u live again 16:11:48 lol 16:12:03 Oregon, it's a short drive.... grin 16:12:07 :-p 16:12:35 #topic Newton specs 16:12:49 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo-specs,n,z 16:13:14 it would be super to have folks that are interested review more of those (myself included, ha) 16:13:19 harlowja_at_home: Oh sweet, who set up the periodic job for Cinder? 16:13:30 i think that would be dims 16:13:42 i'll setup an octavia one and then i'll know how to do it :-P (i don't think its hard) 16:14:00 y should be easy hopefully 16:14:48 jd__, u around 16:14:54 i guess http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-ceilometer-py27-with-oslo-master might be something also 16:15:11 although i think that's the keystonemiddleware issue 16:15:12 anyways 16:15:20 #topic Stuck reviews 16:15:35 any stuck reviews that we can raise so folks can try to unstick them? 16:16:06 don't all speak up at once now, lol 16:16:43 I asked / was asked some questions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304923/ 16:17:03 bknudson: yeah, I'll respond to that one 16:17:03 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293561/ needs reviews 16:17:05 "Fix db_version checking for sqlalchemy-migrate " 16:17:20 sqlalchemy-migrate woah 16:17:36 keystone still uses sqlalchemy-migrate 16:17:54 haven't figured out how to switch to alembic... and haven't had a great reason to either. 16:18:03 cool cool, good to know 16:18:36 if we are wanting to cleanup incubator code it may be good to get a +1 on reviews that are stuck in other projects. 16:19:00 rbradfor, where is the list of all those again 16:19:13 bknudson: in oslo.db we have some utils to support both at the same time, so that you can eventually migrate to alembic, but it's not pretty and I doubt anyone used it in the wild :( 16:19:21 rbradfor, i'll +1 some stuff (or maybe liasons here can help) 16:19:46 rpodolyaka: can you point me to some docs for the tools? 16:19:47 bknudson: IIRC, at some point zzzeek wanted to add support for sqlalchemy-migrate migrations to alembic 16:19:48 unfortunately they fall under several topics, so not so easy to point to 16:20:19 any docs for switching from s-m to alembic would be handy. 16:20:45 This is the link to the etherpad with more overview of adoption https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-libraries-adoption. Reviews list per project may be dated, will look at it 16:21:02 also that reminded me https://github.com/openstack/oslo.tools is now up, so i think i can go through the final stages of moving oslo-incubator ---> openstack attic 16:21:06 bknudson: let me take a look, but I'm afraid we don't have much, except for the API reference... 16:21:07 maybe just needs some kind of indicator that after this version, switch to alembic, which alembic would handle. 16:21:18 the tools repo there is just the tools from oslo-incubator 16:21:45 (the only part of the incubator that afaik was still used) 16:21:57 rbradfor, thx 16:22:19 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-libraries-adoption 16:22:20 harlowja_at_home, is there a fuel liason? 16:22:31 rbradfor, not that i am aware of 16:22:44 dims, do u know anyone at mirantis that might be a candiate for that 16:23:13 * harlowja_at_home doesn't see fuel @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Oslo 16:23:18 oslo.tools doesn't show up in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack/tree/ ... wonder why that is? 16:23:25 bknudson, that's weird :-/ 16:23:37 I'll ask on infra after the meeting. 16:23:40 kk 16:23:51 wonder how it can showup on github without being there, weird 16:23:55 I have a new process for keeping a local copy of the repos using http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack/tree/ 16:24:37 cool 16:24:43 i should do that to 16:24:55 track all the openstack :-P 16:25:39 #topic Open discussion 16:25:48 remember to add oslo.tools to your watched projects: https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/projects 16:25:54 bknudson, thx 16:26:19 i gotta use that tree repo later (currently i just checkout repos individually) 16:26:52 it's just git clone the openstack/openstack , git submodule init oslo.* 16:27:07 then when you git pull it updates the ones that have changed. 16:27:15 cool 16:27:28 kgiusti, u are all set on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319452/ right? 16:27:31 bknudson, is this something new, or old and not clearly documented 16:27:55 rbradfor, also thx for the draft blog email, i'll check that out today (just wanted to let u know i got it) 16:27:58 rbradfor: openstack/openstack has existed forever as far as I know 16:28:08 I just didn't know how to use submodules 16:28:47 harlowja_at_home, sure. generally one just blogs, but I'd like a second eye on it, as we could use it as a base point for talking about individual libraries 16:28:59 rbradfor, cools 16:29:17 openstack/openstack is not really up2date 16:29:18 jroll, u are still thinking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308398 might not be needed right? (if u are around) 16:29:36 harlowja_at_home: it isn't on my priority list at the moment 16:29:47 lxsli, ^ that might affect the parser stuffs there 16:29:53 jroll, thx, that's fine with me :) 16:30:03 np 16:30:15 * jroll wips for now 16:30:24 thx 16:31:24 alright anything else folks want to talk about, if not guess we can end early 16:31:36 i was thinking i'll send out a ML email to get https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Oslo updated 16:31:48 rbradfor, i'll poke about a fuel liason in that email as well 16:32:21 harlowja_at_home, thanks. There were issues with a failing bandit test being required (seems it's not now), so I'll start with a recheck 16:32:22 harlowja_at_home, why fuel liaison do they consume our libs ? 16:32:23 poke and/or mention 16:33:39 good question, and i shall investigate that before mentioning oslo liason in that email ;) 16:33:54 to many fueld repos, lol 16:34:12 https://github.com/openstack?page=1&query=fuel 16:34:22 page 1 of 5 :-/ 16:34:59 most of them are puppet stuff 16:35:58 ya, lots of plugins 16:36:12 anyways, i'll see if fuel wants/needs a liason 16:37:03 okie dokie, anything else from folks? otherwise 20 minutes of your time back :-P 16:37:51 see ya'll on #openstack-oslo then :) 16:37:53 ihrachys: aye, link? 16:38:05 dougwig: that was false alarm, sorry. 16:38:09 dougwig, false alarm afaik :) 16:38:15 ihrachys: ok, no worries. :) 16:38:29 #endmeeting