16:00:07 <harlowja_at_home> #startmeeting oslo
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16:00:16 <harlowja_at_home> bonjour
16:00:23 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims
16:00:23 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, gcb, GheRivero, haypo
16:00:23 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz
16:00:23 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for lifeless, lintan, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor, redrobot
16:00:23 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak, stevemar
16:00:24 <rbradfor> o/
16:00:25 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek
16:00:35 <harlowja_at_home> howday
16:01:01 * harlowja_at_home twiddles thumbs to see if anyone else shows up
16:01:26 <ihrachys> o/
16:01:34 <ansmith> o/
16:01:50 <rpodolyaka> o/
16:01:56 <harlowja_at_home> o/
16:01:59 <harlowja_at_home> \o/
16:02:14 <jecarey> o/
16:03:00 <harlowja_at_home> ok guess we can get started
16:03:05 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
16:03:18 <harlowja_at_home> any issues that people are having in consuming projects?
16:03:35 <ihrachys> nothing from neutron side, though I was off for a huge part of prev week
16:03:39 <jungleboyj> Hey, I am here.  Nothing to report from Cinder.
16:03:51 <oshykhkerimov> nothing from murano
16:03:56 <harlowja_at_home> cool
16:04:05 <ihrachys> grafana dash for neutron is quiet
16:04:47 <harlowja_at_home> nice nice
16:04:53 <harlowja_at_home> http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo looks ok to me
16:05:46 <harlowja_at_home> amrith, http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/job/periodic-trove-py34-with-oslo-master might have been an issue though, unsure
16:06:01 <harlowja_at_home> amrith, if u around, let me know if that's ok, looks resolved
16:06:48 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Releases for newton
16:07:02 <harlowja_at_home> so i had https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332491/ up, i'll get that updated for this week
16:07:10 <harlowja_at_home> got sucked into other work things last week
16:07:22 <harlowja_at_home> but feel free to tell me to remove or add newer changes there
16:08:31 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Stuck reviews
16:08:38 <harlowja_at_home> any stuck reviews folks want to bring up?
16:09:05 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, did the oslo-incubator code removal reviews start to get merged in?
16:09:08 <harlowja_at_home> or still lagging?
16:09:24 <sileht> I have this that need some love: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301771/
16:09:29 <harlowja_at_home> sileht, welcome back
16:09:36 <harlowja_at_home> how's the baby :-P
16:09:45 <sileht> very well !
16:09:56 <harlowja_at_home> woot
16:10:26 <harlowja_at_home> ah pifpaf usage, nice, nice, will look that one over since I know what that lib is doing
16:10:53 <sileht> harlowja_at_home, I SIGKILL rabbit and check oslo.messaging still works !
16:11:08 <harlowja_at_home> nice
16:11:42 <rbradfor> harlowja_at_home, sorry, bathroom stop
16:11:49 <harlowja_at_home> no bathroom allowed
16:11:50 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:11:59 <rbradfor> harlowja_at_home, some have, thanks. there are still some remaining
16:12:33 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor, let me know if i need to send out another email saying 'these need to merge cause there is no incubator anymore...'
16:12:47 <harlowja_at_home> (or equivalent message)
16:12:50 <rbradfor> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312175/ is still stuck waiting for a +2, that's a whole project removal (gets rid of incubator code)
16:13:54 <harlowja_at_home> i wonder for these 'dead' projects if infra folks can merge those changes instead
16:14:09 <rbradfor> harlowja_at_home, actually, several others are a different problem, that is projects adopting new features of Oslo, e.g. new base class parameters. e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302367/
16:14:41 <rbradfor> harlowja_at_home, there are 2 kite projects, one got the 2 +2s, and i've actually emailed the person weeks ago.
16:15:05 <rbradfor> need to do another round of cleanups and get a pile of reviews in queue
16:15:14 <harlowja_at_home> k, i always wondered how dead projects actually get reviewed (since they are dead)
16:15:45 <johnsom> No issues here BTW
16:15:50 <rbradfor> I have also previously brought up the removal of apiclient incubator code, and there was little discussion on Oslo providing the means forward.
16:16:01 <harlowja_at_home> johnsom, thx
16:16:06 <harlowja_at_home> ah, apiclient
16:16:33 <harlowja_at_home> yes yes, i remember that debate
16:17:03 <harlowja_at_home> i think the idea was to get some folks to make a new apiclient, but i think that died
16:17:10 <rbradfor> I did some work a long time ago for trove https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296667/
16:17:21 <rbradfor> my comments included:
16:17:22 <rbradfor> 1. There is a subset of base.Resource.  Keystone makes their own copy, and a dozen other projects use the existing Oslo Incubator code. There is need for a common class here.
16:17:22 <rbradfor> 2. While exceptions have been incorporated into a project class, again there is need for a common class here that can be used by all the python clients.
16:17:43 <harlowja_at_home> ya
16:18:03 <rbradfor> if there was any agreement that I could create a Request and Exceptions base class and put it somewhere oslo_utils?  I could try a refactor again
16:18:07 <harlowja_at_home> let me ponder over that, and see if i can find out from maybe dims or dhellmann what happened to the apiclient stuff
16:18:40 <harlowja_at_home> rbradfor ya, let me uncover some history here first, then let's figure that out
16:18:42 <rbradfor> the decision was to let the OSC SDK handle it, but honestly that's not going to happen any time soon.
16:18:57 <harlowja_at_home> right
16:19:24 <rbradfor> I might pursue creating these two base classes within Trove, and then we can refactor them to Oslo.
16:19:41 <rbradfor> this is then a path to "removing incubator code" which is the immediate goal right?
16:19:55 <harlowja_at_home> imho ya
16:21:25 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Liasons
16:21:46 <harlowja_at_home> i'm thinking i'm going to send out a little update for https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Oslo
16:22:02 <harlowja_at_home> and see if we can get a little more folks attending the meeting here
16:22:35 <harlowja_at_home> cause it always feels sort of weird that we have nova and glance and such, but never hear if they have any oslo issues (or give the all clear)
16:22:58 <harlowja_at_home> so i might just send out a reminder ...
16:23:40 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Open discussion
16:23:54 <harlowja_at_home> anything else folks want to raise?
16:24:19 <harlowja_at_home> if not, then i guess we have a short-meeting!
16:24:32 <harlowja_at_home> also next week meeting, i guess we should ask about that
16:24:48 <harlowja_at_home> next monday is july4th in the US, so i may or may not be around :-P
16:25:28 <harlowja_at_home> its the day we in the US celebrate the defeat of the aliens
16:25:30 <harlowja_at_home> @ http://blogs-images.forbes.com/scottmendelson/files/2015/06/independence-day-white-house-explode.jpg
16:25:42 <rpodolyaka> lol
16:25:55 <rbradfor> all the movies that destroy american icons!
16:26:11 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:26:22 <harlowja_at_home> where we in the US celebrate will smith saving us all
16:26:49 <jungleboyj> harlowja_at_home: Today is Our Independence Day!
16:26:53 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:26:58 <harlowja_at_home> +1
16:27:04 <harlowja_at_home> no no next monday is
16:27:05 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:27:07 <harlowja_at_home> not today
16:27:07 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:27:11 <jungleboyj> :-)
16:27:18 <jungleboyj> Doesn't have the same ring.
16:27:21 <harlowja_at_home> :)
16:27:58 <harlowja_at_home> anyways, so i'm pretty sure most US folks won't be around
16:28:14 <harlowja_at_home> people ok with skipping next week then?
16:28:23 <rbradfor> you mean folk that are in the US
16:28:28 <harlowja_at_home> ya
16:28:31 <rbradfor> all those immigrants
16:28:44 <harlowja_at_home> u to can celebrate the defeat of the aliens
16:28:45 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:30:53 <harlowja_at_home> unless we want to have a meeting, and someone else wants to host it?
16:31:13 * rbradfor sounds of crickets
16:31:24 <harlowja_at_home> ha
16:31:30 <harlowja_at_home> ok, no meeting next week
16:31:50 <rbradfor> do we need a vote to drink to that?
16:31:56 <jungleboyj> :-)  That seems the best choice.
16:32:39 <harlowja_at_home> i don't think so, make a hamburger or hotdog or something to honor the lack of a meeting
16:33:07 <harlowja_at_home> and remember as jungleboyj said 'Today is Our Independence Day!'
16:33:36 <harlowja_at_home> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLywiaM6PA (for those who have no idea about that quote)
16:33:55 <harlowja_at_home> (just imagine me giving that speech instead of that dude)
16:34:04 <jungleboyj> harlowja_at_home: Did you see the new one yet?
16:34:08 <harlowja_at_home> nope
16:34:14 <jungleboyj> It is good!
16:34:17 <harlowja_at_home> nice nice
16:35:09 <harlowja_at_home> will have to watch the return of the aliens soon, ha
16:35:55 <harlowja_at_home> alright, guess we can move chit-chat to #openstack-oslo so that people don't feel obliged to watch the movie or hear about stupid american jokes, lol
16:36:14 <harlowja_at_home> thanks all for the quick meeting (i like those!)
16:36:48 <harlowja_at_home> #end-meeting
16:36:53 <harlowja_at_home> #endmeeting