16:01:06 <harlowja_at_home> #startmeeting oslo
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16:01:13 <ihrachys> hello oslo! ;)
16:01:16 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys,  ;)
16:01:19 <harlowja_at_home> hi there: -P
16:01:22 <harlowja_at_home> :-P
16:01:29 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, haypo,
16:01:29 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, spamaps
16:01:29 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek, gcb, Nakato
16:01:36 <rpodolyaka> o/
16:01:38 <dims> o/
16:01:38 <johnsom> o/
16:01:40 <harlowja_at_home> oops, thats using the old ihrachys
16:01:52 <harlowja_at_home> yo yo
16:01:52 <rbradfor> o/   What, I've been dropped from the list?
16:01:53 <ihrachys> SHAME ON YOU
16:01:58 <bknudson> hi
16:01:59 <harlowja_at_home> hmmm
16:02:02 <amrith> ./
16:02:07 <bknudson> In another meeting so distracted.
16:02:07 <ansmith> o/
16:02:10 <osh> \o/
16:02:26 <harlowja_at_home> weird, i think i ran the wrong ping me script
16:02:27 <harlowja_at_home> ha
16:02:42 <harlowja_at_home> weirds
16:02:42 <harlowja_at_home> ha
16:02:54 <amrith> it got me, must be the right one. who's this rbradfor person?
16:03:03 <amrith> new guy?
16:03:07 <harlowja_at_home> ohhhh, i know
16:03:17 <jecarey_> o/
16:03:21 <harlowja_at_home> my other script also has a ping me header, i gotta remove that one
16:03:32 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
16:03:40 <johnsom> Nothing to report here
16:03:55 <rbradfor> amrith, your a funny guy?
16:04:01 <osh> no red flags from murano
16:04:07 <bknudson> Nothing for keystone that I know of.
16:04:08 <ihrachys> no flags on neutron side, grafana clear
16:04:12 <amrith> all quiet on the trove front. I have a quesiton that I'd like to raise to the team. (other than the "who's the rbradfor guy")
16:04:27 <harlowja_at_home> ihrachys, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352370/ is needed right?
16:04:39 <harlowja_at_home> (not sure its red, but perhaps yellow flag?)
16:04:53 <ihrachys> harlowja_at_home: ah right, shame on me. too many things to handle. :P
16:04:58 <ihrachys> it's yellow-ish yet
16:05:02 <harlowja_at_home> my periodic job bot is dead (not sure why) but i'll check those when i get in to work
16:05:04 <harlowja_at_home> k
16:05:13 <ihrachys> it's not as red as the fact that currently the whole neutron gate is busted, so I forgot about it
16:05:23 <harlowja_at_home> :)
16:05:56 <ihrachys> harlowja: we'll aslo need to bump in gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352374/
16:06:12 <harlowja_at_home> kk
16:06:52 <harlowja_at_home> gcb, anything from the nova folks?
16:07:28 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Releases for newton
16:07:38 <harlowja_at_home> (will find gcb later to catch up/check up)
16:07:52 <harlowja_at_home> so besides the current oslo.db (for mitaka)
16:08:11 <harlowja_at_home> anyone else need a specific release of any library? (otherwise i'll just batch them all, assuming periodic jobs are ok)
16:08:24 <ihrachys> mine periodic is good
16:09:19 <harlowja_at_home> cool
16:09:27 <harlowja_at_home> also everyone keep in mind
16:09:29 <harlowja_at_home> http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html
16:09:48 <harlowja_at_home> time slowly approaching 'Aug 22-26'
16:09:55 <harlowja_at_home> http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html#n-final-lib
16:10:21 <ozamiatin> o/
16:10:33 <harlowja_at_home> \o
16:11:04 <harlowja_at_home> #topic What amrith wants to talk about
16:11:11 <harlowja_at_home> amrith whats up :-P
16:11:13 <amrith> thx
16:11:21 <amrith> I want to ask about oslo.log and log rotation
16:11:28 <amrith> are there any best practices on it?
16:11:37 <amrith> someone proposed a change in trove based on rotating file handlers.
16:11:56 <amrith> I just wanted to make sure that we didn't go accept some seventh solution to a known problem ...
16:12:21 <harlowja_at_home> one of https://docs.python.org/2/library/logging.handlers.html#rotatingfilehandler ?
16:12:28 <amrith> see: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352257/
16:12:50 <amrith> yes
16:12:54 <amrith> rotating file handler
16:13:04 <amrith> logging.handlers.RotatingFileHandler
16:13:41 <harlowja_at_home> right, so i haven't heard of any best practices (specific to oslo.log) here
16:13:42 <amrith> I'd love it if someone from the oslo team could provide some guidance on whether this is the recommended way in which we do this.
16:14:07 <harlowja_at_home> agreed, it'd be nice to have a best practices for this kind of rotation stuffs
16:14:24 <amrith> because, knowing my luck, we'll say yes to the one solution that is incompatible with the next change coming down the road in oslo.log.
16:14:41 <harlowja_at_home> :-P
16:15:07 <harlowja_at_home> i think what's being done in that review is fine, but agreed, let me start a little 'usage best practices' for this kind of stuff
16:15:20 <amrith> thanks harlowja_at_home
16:15:33 <amrith> also, please confirm that there's one more version of oslo.context before newton :)
16:15:40 <amrith> the last one was fun
16:15:49 <amrith> but now we have the process in place
16:15:56 <amrith> and I'd like to give it a quick 'test'.
16:16:01 <harlowja_at_home> i'm guessing there is one more :-P
16:16:03 * amrith ducks to avoid the flying tomatoes
16:16:15 <amrith> oh, those were eggs.
16:16:27 <harlowja_at_home> there is 2.7
16:16:40 <harlowja_at_home> there hasn't been any merges recently, so may not be a release this week
16:16:51 <harlowja_at_home> but i'd be safe to say there would be one more
16:16:59 <amrith> oh, we got 2.7.0, I was wondering if there was more :)
16:17:16 <amrith> crap, ok. will put on my raincoat
16:17:40 <amrith> it rains frog parts each time you guys do one of those things.
16:17:48 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:17:58 <bknudson> we were talking about this around here recently.
16:17:59 <harlowja_at_home> tasty
16:18:13 <bknudson> it would be nice if we could send a signal to the service to cause the file handle to re-open
16:18:31 <bknudson> apache httpd supports this
16:18:37 <harlowja_at_home> for logging?
16:18:38 <amrith> bknudson,  I saw that; sighup to reopen config files. but not file handle for log files.
16:18:39 <bknudson> makes log rotation more efficient
16:19:08 <bknudson> The result of the internal discussion was to use RotatingFileHandler, I think.
16:19:24 <harlowja_at_home> would SIGHUP trigger https://docs.python.org/2/library/logging.handlers.html#logging.handlers.RotatingFileHandler.doRollover then?
16:19:51 <bknudson> SIGHUP would allow logrotate to work.
16:20:35 <amrith> our service is a bit skittish. if you say SIGHUP, it'll drop everything and run away.
16:21:10 <harlowja_at_home> doesn't seem like it would be that hard to have a RotatingFileHandler that is connected into the SIGHUP stuffs
16:21:30 <amrith> yes, some small changes and we should be able to get that rotating file handler stuff working.
16:21:42 <amrith> ok, that was my only question.
16:22:29 <harlowja_at_home> cool
16:22:48 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Reviews needing review
16:23:18 <harlowja_at_home> any reviews people want to raise so that others can (hopefully) look at?
16:24:10 <harlowja_at_home> i think all of kens stuff @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/oslo.messaging+branch:feature/amqp-dispatch-router merged
16:24:22 <osh> this one, need more core-reviewers https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349887/
16:24:31 <harlowja_at_home> soo i'm guessing i'll have to find him to do the merge of that feature branch back into main oslo.messaging
16:24:51 <harlowja_at_home> osh, ah yes, i'll look that over today
16:25:32 <osh> harlowja_at_home: thanks C:
16:25:39 <harlowja_at_home> np :)
16:26:11 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Open discussion
16:26:51 <harlowja_at_home> anything else people want to talk about? bring up? other? :-P
16:28:08 <harlowja_at_home> ok, guess we can call it then :)
16:28:23 <harlowja_at_home> thx for those who showed up!! :)
16:28:31 <amrith> thanks harlowja_at_home
16:28:36 <harlowja_at_home> np :)
16:28:48 <amrith> bye harlowja_at_home bknudson rbradfor
16:28:55 <harlowja_at_home> peace!
16:29:01 <harlowja_at_home> #endmeeting