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16:00:26 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims
16:00:27 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, GheRivero
16:00:27 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz
16:00:27 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor, redrobot, rloo
16:00:27 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak, stevemar
16:00:28 <harlowja_at_home> courtesy ping for therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek
16:00:30 <rpodolyaka> o/
16:00:35 <electrocucaracha> howdy
16:00:38 <johnsom> o/
16:00:39 <harlowja_at_home> hi there :)
16:00:40 <kgiusti> o/
16:00:42 <gcb> o/
16:00:44 <tovin07_> o/
16:00:52 <rloo> o/
16:00:53 <ozamiatin_> o/
16:00:59 <bknudson> hi
16:01:08 <harlowja_at_home> hi hi
16:01:36 <harlowja_at_home> let's get this show on the road :-P
16:01:42 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
16:02:00 <bknudson> Nothing for keystone that I know of.
16:02:06 <harlowja_at_home> sweet
16:02:15 <gcb> nothing from Nova,  and Glance seems don't claim support python 3,  its py27 period task works well
16:02:15 <johnsom> Nothing from Octavia
16:02:16 <toabctl> hi
16:02:22 <rloo> ironic sees green for the upcoming holidays
16:02:26 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:03:31 <johnsom> Yeah, our biggest issue right now is the diskimage-builder breakages, so oslo is off the hook
16:03:36 <harlowja_at_home> cool cool, only thing that i see going on is http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-cinder-py27-with-oslo-master which I am thinking is due to a tooz change that got merged recently
16:03:59 * harlowja_at_home is poking jd to see if he knows anything about that
16:04:57 <amrith> ./
16:05:07 <amrith> sorry I'm late; no red flags from trove.
16:05:15 <harlowja_at_home> amrith, cool thanks :)
16:05:41 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Releases for ocata
16:06:24 <harlowja_at_home> anyone need a specific library release? :)
16:06:32 <harlowja_at_home> (tooz i'm going to have to look into before that goes out)
16:08:05 <harlowja_at_home> ok, assuming I will just release all of them then (once I figure out tooz fix)
16:08:25 <harlowja_at_home> #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html
16:08:46 <harlowja_at_home> just a reminder for releases 'Jan 16-20 Final release for non-client libraries'
16:09:03 <harlowja_at_home> that may only be a couple more releases (due to people, including me being out)
16:09:48 <harlowja_at_home> #topic The holidays
16:10:01 <harlowja_at_home> which dove tails nicely into the next topic :)
16:10:39 <harlowja_at_home> i am thinking that we cancel the next 2 meetings, i at least will be out and my guess is most people will be also :)
16:11:02 <harlowja_at_home> sound ok to folks?
16:11:25 <tovin07_> you guys away from irc too?
16:11:26 <electrocucaracha> if not they should be out hehehe
16:11:29 <johnsom> Sounds good to me
16:11:35 <kgiusti> +1
16:11:38 <harlowja_at_home> tovin07, probably :)
16:11:39 <electrocucaracha> +1
16:11:53 <rloo> ++
16:12:00 <harlowja_at_home> i'll be in missouri then in upstate NY; so may or may not have internet at the right times, ha
16:12:20 <tovin07_> harlowja_at_home, +1
16:12:28 <ozamiatin_> harlowja_at_home +1
16:12:37 <harlowja_at_home> okie dokie, cool
16:12:40 <gcb> +1
16:13:38 <harlowja_at_home> might actually be the next 3 meetings but let's wait and see on that
16:13:53 <harlowja_at_home> cause the last meeting is jan 2
16:14:09 <harlowja_at_home> but let's wait and see about that one :)
16:15:26 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Reviews needing review
16:15:45 <harlowja_at_home> any reviews people want to bring up :)
16:15:49 <harlowja_at_home> bring your review, any review, ha
16:17:32 <gcb> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390875/
16:17:33 <harlowja_at_home> ok, nobody has any reviews, ha
16:17:37 <harlowja_at_home> ah, phew
16:17:38 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:18:38 <gcb> I want to discuss if we can accept that code ?  I'm concern about involving more dependencies
16:19:03 <harlowja_at_home> right right
16:20:15 <harlowja_at_home> https://github.com/openstack/oslo.utils/blob/master/oslo_utils/netutils.py#L101-L113 seems pretty dinky
16:20:37 <harlowja_at_home> so ya, i agree, not sure that all of oslo.utils is needed for 2 lines :-P
16:21:09 * harlowja_at_home will add a comment to the review now that I understand better, thanks gcb  :)
16:21:25 <gcb> yeah, thanks harlowja_at_home
16:21:54 * rloo doesn't know what gcb & harlowja_at_home are talking about but has faith they know what they are talking about
16:22:02 <harlowja_at_home> :-P
16:22:47 <tovin07_> lol
16:22:57 <gcb> rloo, just about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390875/ how to trade off :-)
16:23:14 * johnsom Adds a note to switch our method and move over the is ipv6_lla method.
16:23:45 <harlowja_at_home> eck
16:23:54 <rloo> gcb: ah, thx for the link
16:24:01 <harlowja_at_home> johnsom need more things up in netaddr, not in oslo.utils, ha
16:24:34 <johnsom> Yeah, well this is just a wrapper on a few netaddr calls
16:24:52 <johnsom> Probably a good point
16:25:14 <harlowja_at_home> must not turn oslo.utils into oslo-incubator v2, lol
16:25:35 <gcb> lol
16:26:16 <bknudson> pretty much everything depends on oslo.utils.
16:26:37 <bknudson> its oslo.utils that should have fewer dependencies.
16:27:06 <harlowja_at_home> agreed, we need to figure out how to do that eventually :)
16:27:46 <harlowja_at_home> #topic Open discussion
16:27:59 <harlowja_at_home> sounds like a good topic for next PTG or summit (or both, ha)
16:29:45 <harlowja_at_home> anything else anyone wants to bring up for this week?? :)
16:31:39 <gcb> nothing  now , boss :-)
16:31:53 <electrocucaracha> harlowja_at_home: I saw some progress on the python-kafka change, it's something that we have to be aware
16:32:06 <harlowja_at_home> electrocucaracha, agreed
16:32:33 * electrocucaracha shouldn't be kafka-python?
16:33:04 <harlowja_at_home> seems like sileht has been busy with https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.messaging+branch:master+topic:sileht/kafka-fix
16:34:15 <harlowja_at_home> the monsaca changes or analysis though hasn't happened yet right?
16:34:22 <harlowja_at_home> (performance analysis)
16:35:10 * kgiusti needs to goto school - pickup sick daughter 2.0.  ttyl....
16:35:14 <harlowja_at_home> :)
16:35:18 <harlowja_at_home> good luck
16:35:26 <kgiusti> ty
16:35:48 <harlowja_at_home> i'll poke the email thread around kafka and oslo.messaging electrocucaracha ; there was some discussion from what i remember still going on about the versions
16:37:10 <electrocucaracha> thanks harlowja_at_home
16:37:13 <harlowja_at_home> np
16:37:57 <sileht> harlowja_at_home, it seems to work, but I can't get functional tests pass
16:38:34 <sileht> harlowja_at_home, something due to the way kafka process messages (async/batch)
16:39:03 <sileht> If I put sleep(100) before the listener startup and notification sent they passed :p
16:39:10 <harlowja_at_home> interesting :)
16:39:28 <sileht> (I means between the listener startup and notification sent)
16:39:46 <harlowja_at_home> right
16:39:48 <harlowja_at_home> i wonder why
16:40:10 <sileht> I'm guissing to many times to elect a leader
16:40:25 <sileht> but I don't see this lag when I use the simulator
16:41:24 <sileht> harlowja_at_home, also gordc is working of fixing kombu 4 breakage
16:41:37 <harlowja_at_home> ya, kombu 4 seemed to bust alot of things, ha
16:41:59 <harlowja_at_home> thanks sileht (i'll see if i can get a coworker to look into the kafka reviews as well, maybe he can help out a little bit)
16:42:12 <sileht> cool :)
16:42:43 <harlowja_at_home> thanks btw for helping get that fixed up
16:44:00 <harlowja_at_home> alright anything else anyone wants to bring up?
16:44:06 <sileht> I wonder how to update the requirement for kombu4
16:44:23 <sileht> oslo.messaging now uses constraints
16:44:40 <harlowja_at_home> hmmm
16:44:51 <sileht> changing the req to >4.0 will force to change upper-constraints
16:45:05 <sileht> chaning upper-constraints means break everything ....
16:45:09 <harlowja_at_home> lol
16:45:14 <harlowja_at_home> ya
16:45:19 <sileht> we can't change only oslo.messaging since we gate on upper-constraints
16:45:26 <sileht> ENOENDLOOP
16:45:39 <harlowja_at_home> ya, i wonder if dhellmann has any brilliant ideas here :)
16:46:05 <harlowja_at_home> seems like https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L86 just blocks kombu4
16:46:26 <sileht> yeah but the API change a bit
16:46:54 <sileht> And I don't talk about project than usess directly kombu<4
16:48:00 <harlowja_at_home> ya, seems like we'll have to approach this one carefully
16:48:26 <harlowja_at_home> perhaps when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409294/ is ready we can start a ML thread asking about how to merge that and how to lift the version
16:49:09 <harlowja_at_home> and who that might affect
16:49:30 * harlowja_at_home isn't sure who is using kombu directly vs using it through oslo.messaging anymore
16:49:35 <harlowja_at_home> i know there are a few
16:50:52 <harlowja_at_home> sileht, i'll see if i can find doug a little bit later, and perhaps get a strategy for this
16:51:16 <sileht> yep
16:51:23 <sileht> that's all I have
16:51:46 <harlowja_at_home> cool
16:52:02 <harlowja_at_home> alright folks, guess we will see everyone back in here in a few weeks :)
16:52:18 <harlowja_at_home> have a great holiday(s), vacation, whatever else u are doing :-P
16:53:04 <tovin07_> +1
16:54:04 <electrocucaracha> thanks you too
16:54:16 <harlowja_at_home> :)
16:54:32 <harlowja_at_home> alright, off into #openstack-oslo if anyone needs me (or others)
16:54:46 <harlowja_at_home> thanks folks for showing up :)
16:54:51 <harlowja_at_home> #endmeeting