14:08:15 <gcb> #startmeeting  oslo
14:08:16 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Mar 13 14:08:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:08:19 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'oslo'
14:08:30 <gcb> courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims,dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, GheRivero,haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz,lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor, redrobot, rloo,rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak, stevemar,therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek
14:08:35 <shuyingya> o/
14:08:37 <rpodolyaka> o/
14:08:38 <kgiusti> o/
14:08:40 <dims> o/
14:08:41 <ansmith> o/
14:08:46 <gcb> sorry for my network issue
14:08:55 <rloo> o/
14:09:06 <lhx_> o/
14:09:14 <gcb> \o/ good morning/afternoon/evening everyone
14:09:48 <gcb> we have two new comers lhx_ and shuyingya , can you introduce yourself ?
14:10:34 <bknudson_> hi
14:11:11 <gcb> maybe they can introduce them later :-)
14:11:21 <gcb> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
14:12:01 <gcb> Any red flags here ?
14:12:12 <shuyingya> Hi all, I am shuyingya, now mainly working on sahara project, and will focus on oslo.db. I am sahara project liaison
14:12:15 <bknudson_> none for keystone that I know of.
14:12:42 <dims> nothing from requirements
14:12:58 <gcb> shuyingya, welcome
14:13:13 <gcb> bknudson_, dims: thanks
14:13:22 <rloo> nothing from ironic
14:13:26 <shuyingya> nothing from my side ^ ^
14:13:34 <gcb> rloo, ack :-)
14:14:03 <gcb> Let's move on
14:14:05 <gcb> #topic Releases for Pike
14:14:50 <gcb> #link https://review.openstack.org/444915, I just posted the release patch, please help review
14:15:44 <gcb> I'm wondering if we need weekly release , maybe biweekly release ?
14:15:56 <dims> gcb: we had turned voting off temporarily while dealing with the hacking/pbr issues, here's the review to turn it back on
14:16:00 <dims> gcb : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444922/
14:16:13 <dims> gcb : i'd vote for weekly
14:16:26 <bknudson_> I prefer to see releases more often since then we don't go so long between commit and release.
14:16:42 <bknudson_> Is it too much work so needs automation?
14:17:40 <gcb> dims, bknudson_ :  weekly release is okay for me. just thought if a  tiny change need a release
14:17:51 <gcb> dims: will check your review later
14:17:58 <bknudson_> maybe there's something we can put in the commit to indicate if it needs a major/minor/fix release?
14:18:47 <gcb> current, I check the commit log to if it is a trivial fix or fix bugs
14:19:44 <bknudson_> looks like all the releases this time included bug fixes.
14:19:50 <bknudson_> actually, new features.
14:20:24 <gcb> yeah
14:21:03 <gcb> a trivia fix without function change seems not a good candidate for release
14:21:59 <bknudson_> "The python 3.4 support is removed" -- should this be a major release since removing support?
14:22:26 <bknudson_> this is in the log for futurist
14:22:47 <bknudson_> http://logs.openstack.org/15/444915/1/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes-ubuntu-xenial/3b93fad/console.html#_2017-03-13_13_57_35_523111
14:23:42 <dims> bknudson_ : that's a statement of testing, not actual code change to remove support. so i am not quite sure if major is needed
14:23:48 <dims> dhellmann : thoughts? ^
14:23:48 <gcb> it's just remove the classifier in setup.cfg
14:23:49 <bknudson_> ok.
14:24:28 <gcb> BTW,  it's not a burden for me to release weekly, so let's do it as before
14:24:46 <bknudson_> regarding the change in oslo.messaging -- I don't think this is a minor release change, so should be patch release.
14:25:50 <bknudson_> oh, I was reading the log incorrectly. There's a bunch of changes in oslo.messaging.
14:26:33 <bknudson_> minor release looks correct for oslo.messaging based on the other commits
14:26:53 <gcb> what do you mean patch release ?
14:27:22 <bknudson_> a patch release would just change the last # 5.5.0 to 5.5.1 rather than 5.6.0
14:28:09 <gcb> we don't release patch release in master branch, we need leave it to stable branch
14:29:05 <gcb> in other word, we need 5.5.1 for stable branch,
14:30:26 <gcb> something like s a minor release change, so should be patch release.
14:30:47 <gcb> something like https://review.openstack.org/443331
14:32:37 <gcb> okay,let's move on
14:32:54 <gcb> #topic  block review
14:33:16 <gcb> Any review  call for reviewers ?
14:33:54 <gcb> https://review.openstack.org/440835 seems a good feature
14:34:37 <gcb> #topic Open discussion
14:35:57 <lhx_> hi, oslo guys, i'm new comer for oslo and i'm contributing to Telemetry
14:36:22 <dims> welcome lhx_
14:36:57 <gcb> lhx_ is my colleague, he focus on oslo.messaging now
14:37:31 <kgiusti> hi lhx_!
14:37:31 <lhx_> i would be the liaison of Telemetry if possible because jd and sileht are busy on the projects
14:37:34 <dims> nice, we definitely need help there
14:38:32 <gcb> I trying to attract more developers to oslo, especially in Asian :-)
14:38:40 <gcb> I'm
14:39:02 <gcb> we really need more people to help make oslo better
14:39:20 <lhx_> haha, i'm a newer for oslo.messaging also, thanks gcb for introducing me
14:40:21 <gcb> I noticed some oslo core reviewers have little time on oslo, or move to other non-openstack projects,
14:40:33 <lhx_> dims, kgiusti, thank you, oslo gurus, :)
14:41:41 <shuyingya> lhx_ welcome
14:41:48 <dims> gcb : oslo is all part-timers :)
14:42:05 <gcb> lhx_, shuyingya: please feel free to ask in #openstack-oslo if you have any questions, oslo guys are very nice lol
14:42:19 <gcb> dims: agree
14:42:53 <shuyingya> \o/
14:43:10 <lhx_> shuyingya, the same welcome!
14:44:31 <gcb> lhx_, shuyingya :  please add your irc name in https://github.com/openstack/oslo.tools/blob/master/ping_me.py
14:44:51 <gcb> then I can ping you when oslo meeting starts
14:45:15 <gcb> okay, does anyone have other things ?
14:45:16 <lhx_> okay
14:45:28 <shuyingya> ok
14:45:39 <gcb> then we can call it a meeting today.
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14:46:28 <gcb> thanks everyone
14:46:41 <gcb> #endmeeting