14:00:06 <gcb> #startmeeting oslo
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14:00:10 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'oslo'
14:00:13 <gcb> courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann
14:00:13 <gcb> courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb
14:00:13 <gcb> courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti
14:00:13 <gcb> courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor
14:00:13 <gcb> courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak
14:00:16 <gcb> courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek
14:00:24 <kgiusti> o/
14:00:38 <gcb> hi kgiusti
14:00:53 <kgiusti> hello
14:01:28 <gcb> thanks for hosting the oslo feedback session
14:01:44 <ansmith> o/
14:01:46 <rpodolyaka> o/
14:01:55 <lhx_> o/
14:01:57 <kgiusti> gcb: the real work was done by dhellmann - I was just eyecandy... :)
14:02:04 <bnemec> Heh
14:02:26 <gcb> welcome everyone :-)
14:02:39 <gcb> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
14:02:54 <gcb> #link http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo
14:03:49 <gcb> I just find one http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-cinder-py27-with-oslo-master/b66b00f/testr_results.html.gz
14:04:05 <gcb> lhx_: any update about this ?
14:04:50 <dims> gcb : o/
14:04:58 <gcb> hi dims
14:05:43 <lhx_> gcb, I'm looking into it
14:05:55 <gcb> lhx_: thanks
14:06:13 <lhx_> gcb, it's my duty :)
14:06:23 <gcb> #topic Releases for Pike
14:06:39 <gcb> #link https://review.openstack.org/464595
14:07:04 <gcb> that's all we plan to release this week
14:07:30 <gcb> #topic Stuck Reviews
14:07:42 <gcb> any one want to raise here ?
14:08:32 <gcb> #https://review.openstack.org/460112 and https://review.openstack.org/454897 need more attention
14:09:12 <gcb> #topic Open discussion
14:10:11 <gcb> sorry I can't show up in the summit,  I looked at the forum about oslo, seems we got many feedbacks
14:10:47 <gcb> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Oslo-brainstorming #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_Forum_Oslo.Messaging_driver_recommendations
14:10:49 <kgiusti> gcb: yes, there was also a lot of discussion re oslo.messaging: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_Forum_Oslo.Messaging_driver_recommendations
14:11:00 <kgiusti> gcb: heh
14:11:02 <gcb> cool
14:11:39 <kgiusti> gcb: on the messaging side there was consensus to deprecate pika.
14:12:24 <gcb> kgiusti, yeah, just saw that.
14:12:45 <kgiusti> gcb: and some questions regarding finding more contributors to help with kafka and zeromq drivers
14:13:20 <kgiusti> gcb: I'm going to ping jharlow about pika (I think he was involved) get his input
14:13:46 <kgiusti> gcb: then query openstack-dev re: finding folks interested in helping out.
14:14:07 <gcb> kgiusti, yes, we really need more contributors not only for oslo.messaging.
14:14:42 <kgiusti> gcb: there was also the general opinion that oslo needs to better communicate new/deprecated/changed features with the operators
14:15:12 <kgiusti> gcb: via openstack-operators mailing list
14:15:34 <gcb> kgiusti: ++
14:18:20 <kgiusti> any questions regarding the epad contents?   Anything need clarification?
14:19:17 <gcb> about the pypi, so we would like to support it
14:19:34 <gcb> s/pypi/pypy
14:19:59 <kgiusti> gcb: the feedback was that it was tried before and was unstable in the gates, etc
14:20:23 <kgiusti> gcb: there was a definitive bug in the amqp driver - I was going to work on that.
14:20:49 <gcb> Is there any consumer of pypy ?
14:21:22 <kgiusti> gcb: yes - cristicalin has been using it
14:21:34 <gcb> as I understand, pypy is common requirement for all of OpenStack projects,not only for Oslo :-)
14:22:06 <kgiusti> gcb: I wasn't aware of that !
14:23:00 <kgiusti> gcb: is pypy available in CI?
14:24:31 <gcb> No.  I mean if they want to support pypy,  they should ask for all of OpenStack projects
14:24:51 <kgiusti> gcb: ok - I understand, and agree
14:25:22 <gcb> I would like to talk with dhellmann  or infra folks abouth pypy
14:27:11 <gcb> okay, any other topics :-)
14:27:38 <dhellmann> gcb: we dropped pypy gating when we started having issues and there were no interested people fixing gate jobs
14:28:49 <gcb> dhellmann,  so we would like to support it or need more discussion about that ?
14:29:40 <dhellmann> none of the service projects support it directly, as far as I know
14:30:03 <dhellmann> it seems to fall into the same category as postgresql, which is it's something people want, but don't want to contribute to
14:30:13 <dhellmann> it would also delay our moving off of python 2
14:30:35 <gcb> I mean in the session, just asked clarkb, same answer , so if we don't plan to support it, then kgiusti don't need fix the gate for oslo.messaging
14:30:35 <dhellmann> unless they've added python 3.5 support?
14:30:52 <dhellmann> yeah, if we have remaining gate jobs and they're failing we can just remove them
14:30:59 <kgiusti> gcb: true
14:31:16 <gcb> dhellmann,  makes sense
14:31:33 <kgiusti> gcb: I was more curious of the cause of the failure - I'm not aware of any related issues in the gate(s)
14:31:37 <dhellmann> I'm not opposed to supporting it, but there need to be people actively doing that.
14:32:27 <gcb> dhellmann, agree, we need more people
14:36:19 <gcb> I have been trying to find more contributors from China,  I will attend a bug smash event, there are many developers  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Pike-Suzhou
14:38:04 <gcb> hope I can get support from other companies
14:38:33 <gcb> I think we can end the meeting if no more discussion
14:39:41 <gcb> thanks everyone
14:39:57 <gcb> #endmeeting