14:00:06 #startmeeting oslo 14:00:07 Meeting started Mon May 15 14:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:10 The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 14:00:13 courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann 14:00:13 courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb 14:00:13 courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti 14:00:13 courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor 14:00:13 courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak 14:00:16 courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek 14:00:24 o/ 14:00:38 hi kgiusti 14:00:53 hello 14:01:28 thanks for hosting the oslo feedback session 14:01:44 o/ 14:01:46 o/ 14:01:55 o/ 14:01:57 gcb: the real work was done by dhellmann - I was just eyecandy... :) 14:02:04 Heh 14:02:26 welcome everyone :-) 14:02:39 #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 14:02:54 #link http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo 14:03:49 I just find one http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-cinder-py27-with-oslo-master/b66b00f/testr_results.html.gz 14:04:05 lhx_: any update about this ? 14:04:50 gcb : o/ 14:04:58 hi dims 14:05:43 gcb, I'm looking into it 14:05:55 lhx_: thanks 14:06:13 gcb, it's my duty :) 14:06:23 #topic Releases for Pike 14:06:39 #link https://review.openstack.org/464595 14:07:04 that's all we plan to release this week 14:07:30 #topic Stuck Reviews 14:07:42 any one want to raise here ? 14:08:32 #https://review.openstack.org/460112 and https://review.openstack.org/454897 need more attention 14:09:12 #topic Open discussion 14:10:11 sorry I can't show up in the summit, I looked at the forum about oslo, seems we got many feedbacks 14:10:47 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Oslo-brainstorming #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_Forum_Oslo.Messaging_driver_recommendations 14:10:49 gcb: yes, there was also a lot of discussion re oslo.messaging: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_Forum_Oslo.Messaging_driver_recommendations 14:11:00 gcb: heh 14:11:02 cool 14:11:39 gcb: on the messaging side there was consensus to deprecate pika. 14:12:24 kgiusti, yeah, just saw that. 14:12:45 gcb: and some questions regarding finding more contributors to help with kafka and zeromq drivers 14:13:20 gcb: I'm going to ping jharlow about pika (I think he was involved) get his input 14:13:46 gcb: then query openstack-dev re: finding folks interested in helping out. 14:14:07 kgiusti, yes, we really need more contributors not only for oslo.messaging. 14:14:42 gcb: there was also the general opinion that oslo needs to better communicate new/deprecated/changed features with the operators 14:15:12 gcb: via openstack-operators mailing list 14:15:34 kgiusti: ++ 14:18:20 any questions regarding the epad contents? Anything need clarification? 14:19:17 about the pypi, so we would like to support it 14:19:34 s/pypi/pypy 14:19:59 gcb: the feedback was that it was tried before and was unstable in the gates, etc 14:20:23 gcb: there was a definitive bug in the amqp driver - I was going to work on that. 14:20:49 Is there any consumer of pypy ? 14:21:22 gcb: yes - cristicalin has been using it 14:21:34 as I understand, pypy is common requirement for all of OpenStack projects,not only for Oslo :-) 14:22:06 gcb: I wasn't aware of that ! 14:23:00 gcb: is pypy available in CI? 14:24:31 No. I mean if they want to support pypy, they should ask for all of OpenStack projects 14:24:51 gcb: ok - I understand, and agree 14:25:22 I would like to talk with dhellmann or infra folks abouth pypy 14:27:11 okay, any other topics :-) 14:27:38 gcb: we dropped pypy gating when we started having issues and there were no interested people fixing gate jobs 14:28:49 dhellmann, so we would like to support it or need more discussion about that ? 14:29:40 none of the service projects support it directly, as far as I know 14:30:03 it seems to fall into the same category as postgresql, which is it's something people want, but don't want to contribute to 14:30:13 it would also delay our moving off of python 2 14:30:35 I mean in the session, just asked clarkb, same answer , so if we don't plan to support it, then kgiusti don't need fix the gate for oslo.messaging 14:30:35 unless they've added python 3.5 support? 14:30:52 yeah, if we have remaining gate jobs and they're failing we can just remove them 14:30:59 gcb: true 14:31:16 dhellmann, makes sense 14:31:33 gcb: I was more curious of the cause of the failure - I'm not aware of any related issues in the gate(s) 14:31:37 I'm not opposed to supporting it, but there need to be people actively doing that. 14:32:27 dhellmann, agree, we need more people 14:36:19 I have been trying to find more contributors from China, I will attend a bug smash event, there are many developers https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Pike-Suzhou 14:38:04 hope I can get support from other companies 14:38:33 I think we can end the meeting if no more discussion 14:39:41 thanks everyone 14:39:57 #endmeeting