14:00:25 <gcb> #startmeeting  oslo
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14:00:49 <dhellmann> o/
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14:01:31 <gcb> \o/
14:01:54 <gcb> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
14:02:56 <gcb> https://review.openstack.org/469806 oslo.messaging patch was merged , that's the only issue I know
14:04:35 <gcb> and we revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470283/ for stable/ocata branch, so it works for stable/ocata
14:04:55 <gcb> #topic Releases
14:05:20 <gcb> #link https://review.openstack.org/473353 this is for master branch
14:06:18 <gcb> I set workflow -1 before our weekly meeting, please raise if you have any concern
14:07:23 <gcb> I also plan to prepare stable branches release recently
14:08:38 <gcb> will post the patches links for stable branch in #openstack-oslo
14:08:50 <gcb> #topic Stuck Reviews
14:10:17 <gcb> I have one https://review.openstack.org/384559, please help review when you have time:-)
14:11:54 <gcb> dhellmann: a simple fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470874
14:12:18 <dhellmann> gcb : ok, I'll add that to my review queue
14:12:22 <dhellmann> both
14:12:29 <gcb> dhellmann, thanks
14:12:59 <dhellmann> I could use some reviews on this documentation spec, since it's going to affect several of our repos: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/
14:13:13 <dhellmann> some of the documentation will move into oslo.config and oslo.log, for example
14:13:22 <dhellmann> and then we'll be rearranging the way the doc builds work
14:13:33 <dhellmann> I plan to set up oslo.config as an example soon
14:15:04 <gcb> dhellmann,  the changes makes sense, I will make change for other libraries, following your change
14:15:28 <dhellmann> ok, great
14:15:39 <gcb> dhellmann, any update about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454897/?
14:15:53 <gcb> I saw just set workflow -1
14:18:03 <dhellmann> gcb : I think we're not going to need to do all of that work
14:18:38 <dhellmann> the configmap approach looks like it would be less work for everyone, and it would align with the pattern used for configuring other applications
14:19:33 <gcb> yeah, I just went through http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/117943.html, will check the details later
14:20:00 <dhellmann> the spec may still be useful for a way to store secret values, but we should consider if there is an easier way to do that
14:20:20 <dhellmann> and someone brought up parsing yaml instead of ini files, and I'm sure we can do that without all of the refactoring implied by that spec
14:22:37 <gcb> yaml works for machine and human :-)
14:23:17 <gcb> #topic Open discussion
14:23:25 <dhellmann> yes. my main objection to adding yaml support in the past was having to maintain and document 2 formats
14:26:06 <gcb> yaml is superset of json, so that means it also works for json, right?
14:26:36 <dhellmann> yes, I think that is true
14:26:51 <dhellmann> I believe that's what we did when we added yaml support to the policy library
14:29:06 <gcb> yeah, that's true
14:31:09 <gcb> we're loosing contributors from oslo side,  Roman Podoliaka just stepped down for oslo.db cores, we need do something to attract more people to oslo
14:34:49 <gcb> Any ideas are appreciated
14:36:03 <gcb> I think we can end the meeting today , thanks for everyone showing up
14:38:23 <gcb> #endmeeting