14:00:16 <gcb> #startmeeting  oslo
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14:00:20 <gcb> courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann
14:00:20 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'oslo'
14:00:21 <gcb> courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb
14:00:21 <gcb> courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti
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14:00:30 <dhellmann> o/
14:00:45 <kgiusti> o/
14:01:20 <gcb> dhellmann, kgiusti  \o/
14:01:27 <ansmith> o/
14:01:27 <jungleboyj> o/
14:01:37 <jungleboyj> I am not traveling for a change.
14:01:55 <gcb> hi ansmith  jungleboyj
14:01:59 <gcb> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
14:02:31 <gcb> I didn't find failurs in #link http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo
14:03:20 <jungleboyj> No flags from Cinder.
14:04:05 <gcb> therve just reported a issue about devstack  "It looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436094/ is breaking amqp support in our gate :/"
14:04:14 <gcb> jungleboyj: ack thanks
14:04:41 <jungleboyj> Welcome.
14:05:24 <gcb> hope kgiusti can help dig that :-)
14:05:30 <gcb> #topic Releases
14:05:32 <amotoki> from neutron, i would like to raise https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475052/
14:05:57 <kgiusti> gcb: sorry - in IRC with therve now
14:06:09 <kgiusti> gcb: think I have a fix, will try and test it today.
14:06:30 <gcb> amotoki, looking at it ...
14:06:32 <amotoki> it broke heat py3 job last week. neutron now handles it appropriately, but it would be nice if oslo.serialization handles it.
14:06:35 <gcb> kgiusti, thanks
14:08:14 <amotoki> gcb: this is not urgent. I just raised it for attention.
14:08:48 <gcb> amotoki: will review it after the meeting
14:09:07 <gcb> #topic Releases
14:09:43 <gcb> today we only have one library to release #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477546/
14:10:00 <gcb> tooz maybe need a release later
14:11:17 <gcb> I tried to release stable branch  last week,  but stable/mitaka is EOL , so ttx against https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476016/
14:12:10 <gcb> dhellmann,  have you discussed that in release meeting ?
14:12:41 <dhellmann> gcb, yes, we did, and I think we want to skip that mitaka release
14:12:50 <gcb> actually, I didn't insist to release for stable/mitaka
14:13:05 <gcb> dhellmann,  okay, will abandon it
14:13:09 <dhellmann> ok, I just wanted to make the release team position clear
14:13:57 <bknudson> we've got changes merged into stable/mitaka that weren't released before eol tag?
14:14:16 <dhellmann> yes, but now there's no way for us to test those upstream
14:16:05 <bknudson> there's no mitaka-eol tag yet
14:16:42 <dhellmann> right, the stable team and infra team haven't had time to get to all of that
14:16:52 <dhellmann> we have, as a community, declared that mitaka is eol
14:17:00 <dhellmann> the paperwork is just incomplete, so to speak
14:17:28 <bknudson> just wondering if the tag should be current stable/mitaka or the released commit
14:18:13 <gcb> bknudson, https://releases.openstack.org/,  release team posted the EOL for stable/mitaka email before
14:19:26 <gcb> I should release stable branches frequently :/
14:20:22 <dhellmann> bknudson : good question. I don't know the answer to that one. We should talk to tonyb
14:22:57 <gcb> okay, let's talk to tonyb
14:23:37 <gcb> Here is for stable/newton  #link https://review.openstack.org/476017
14:24:24 <gcb> #topic Stuck Reviews
14:24:40 <dhellmann> I could use some reviews on the doc migration work: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:doc-migration+is:open
14:25:05 <dhellmann> I will have more similar patches coming soon, but we could also use help from other folks who have some time
14:25:48 <gcb> dhellmann,  I just post one for oslo.reports https://review.openstack.org/477441
14:25:58 <dhellmann> ++
14:26:19 <gcb> we use https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking to track changes
14:26:51 <gcb> dhellmann,  one question about " Update the theme for the in-tree docs to use the openstackdocstheme instead of oslosphinx."
14:27:00 <dhellmann> ah, yes
14:27:23 <gcb> I leave one comment in one of your patch, just wondering what's the background , any link?
14:27:52 <dhellmann> when the doc team met in atlanta, we thought it would be simpler to only have to keep one theme library up to date
14:28:05 <dhellmann> they are working on that, to make the openstackdocstheme css look like the rest of the openstack site
14:28:16 <dhellmann> since they need that for the manuals anyway
14:28:46 <dhellmann> since we're already doing all of these patches to touch documentation, it seemed like a good idea to fold a step into the process to switch those libraries
14:28:57 <dhellmann> so at the end of this we get the documentation in the right layout with the right theme
14:29:16 <dhellmann> it seemed like a small step, so we didn't really go into detail, but I can provide more directions if we need them
14:29:56 <dhellmann> let me find an example of how it will work
14:30:44 <gcb> dhellmann, got it thanks
14:30:44 <dhellmann> oh, we want to wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476997/ to land and be released so we can use the simpler instructions in the readme in that patch
14:31:13 <dhellmann> I'll try to get that done today
14:33:34 <gcb> #topic Open discussion
14:36:01 <gcb> Any one want to talk some thing :-)
14:36:17 <gcb> I will attend the PTG, who will be there ?
14:37:00 <kgiusti> unsure at this point - budget constraints
14:37:24 <lhx_> unsure +1
14:38:22 <dhellmann> I will be there
14:39:03 <lhx_> doc migration is like a big project
14:39:15 <jungleboyj> I should be at the PTG.
14:39:29 <jungleboyj> Also will be in Sydney.
14:39:36 <dhellmann> lhx_ : indeed
14:40:01 <jungleboyj> lhx_:  ++
14:40:27 <gcb> lhx_: yeah,  thanks for the guide, that makes things easier :-)
14:40:58 <lhx_> when I do migrate, I find some docs are out-of-date.
14:41:26 <lhx_> ;(
14:41:33 <dhellmann> lhx_ : for now, we want to move the content we have to preserve it. updates should come in separate patches to make them easy to review.
14:41:38 <jungleboyj> lhx_:  That is true for many projects.  I know Cinder has work to do there.
14:41:39 <gcb> lhx_: move them in right places, then fix them
14:42:13 <gcb> let's also a reason why we need move the context from doc team to specific team
14:42:29 <dhellmann> that's right
14:45:30 <gcb> s/let's/that's
14:45:31 <lhx_> dhellmann, gcb, okay
14:45:39 <lhx_> thank you
14:46:08 <gcb> any other updates ?
14:46:27 <lhx_> jungleboyj, cinder's doc is really a big trouble ;)
14:47:03 <jungleboyj> lhx_:  I don't doubt that.  ;-)
14:47:44 <gcb> okay, let's end the meeting now
14:47:51 <gcb> thanks everyone
14:48:03 <lhx_> thanks
14:48:03 <jungleboyj> Thanks!
14:48:42 <gcb> #endmeeting