14:00:15 <gcb> #startmeeting  oslo
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14:00:20 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'oslo'
14:00:31 <gcb> courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann
14:00:31 <gcb> courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb
14:00:31 <gcb> courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti
14:00:31 <gcb> courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor
14:00:31 <gcb> courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak
14:00:35 <gcb> courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek
14:00:44 <dims> gcb : o/
14:01:04 <xiaoyang_mobile> o/
14:01:16 <xiaoyang_mobile> Hello everyone. My name is Zhang XiaoYang from Beijing, China. I am very glad to see this meeting.
14:01:23 <kgiusti> o/
14:01:24 <ansmith> o/
14:01:34 <xiaoyang_mobile> I am willing to spend more time on the Oslo project and work together with you to build the Oslo project. :)
14:01:55 <gcb> xiaoyang_mobile: welcome
14:01:56 <dims> xiaoyang_mobile : very nice to hear!
14:02:01 <dhellmann> o/
14:02:07 <dhellmann> xiaoyang_mobile : welcome!
14:03:22 <gcb> xiaoyang_mobile: remember  add your nic in https://github.com/openstack/oslo.tools/blob/master/ping_me.py#L20
14:04:04 <amotoki> o/
14:04:14 <gcb> then you won't miss the meeting if you are online
14:04:25 <gcb> \o/ everyone
14:04:27 <gcb> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
14:04:57 <gcb> I didn't find failure in our periodic tasks  http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo
14:07:07 <gcb> #topic Releases
14:07:15 <dims> looks like we are good for pike then
14:07:46 <gcb> dims: yeah
14:08:08 <dims> great job this cycle @gcb
14:08:33 <gcb> thanks everyone :-)
14:08:58 <dhellmann> ++
14:09:20 <kgiusti> neutron has reported an issue with rabbit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705351
14:09:20 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1705351 in oslo.messaging "agent notifier getting amqp NotFound exceptions propagated up to it" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ken Giusti (kgiusti)
14:10:06 <amotoki> kgiusti: thanks for taking care of it :) (as my hat of neutron)
14:10:07 <kgiusti> this seems to result in a long hang during a migration
14:10:19 <gcb> kgiusti: I saw you prepare a fix for that, right ?
14:10:47 <kgiusti> amotoki: would it be possible to try: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486706/
14:10:51 <kgiusti> gcb: ^^
14:11:27 <gcb> amotoki: thanks for the review link
14:11:29 <kgiusti> I'd sleep better if Mehdi gave it his blessings ;)
14:11:45 <amotoki> gcb: it is from kgiusti :)
14:11:58 <gcb> kgiusti, will try to review it today :-)
14:12:12 <amotoki> some background. it happened during grenade job
14:12:15 <kgiusti> gcb: ty
14:12:21 <dims> ++ to get input from @sileht about the review
14:12:44 <amotoki> neutron stops some fanout queue during pike and it causes this bug
14:12:59 <amotoki> neutron stopped listing some fanout queues *
14:13:21 <amotoki> sorry, typo again :(   *listening*
14:13:34 <gcb> kgiusti: do you think the fix should be in pike if we merged in master ?
14:13:52 <kgiusti> gcb: yes
14:14:20 <kgiusti> gcb: If my guess is correct, we're not cleaning up a non-recoverable channel error (NotFound from py-amqp)
14:15:18 <gcb> dims: is it possible that issue a new release for stable pike for oslo.messaging ?
14:15:25 <amotoki> to share the current situation, neutron already has a workaround for this, so it is not critical for Pike now.
14:15:39 <gcb> amotoki: ack
14:15:43 <kgiusti> gcb: but again that's in some squirrely code and it would be best to have someone with a bit more rabbitmq related brain matter go over it
14:16:25 <gcb> silent is the right man
14:16:56 <gcb> * sileht
14:17:51 <kgiusti> +1
14:18:01 <gcb> okay, let's move on
14:19:11 <gcb> I issue a  release for stable/ocata today #link https://review.openstack.org/491499
14:19:53 <gcb> #topic Stuck Reviews
14:22:26 <gcb> zzzeek's https://review.openstack.org/487902
14:23:00 <gcb> I guess we have conclusion about the change after discussing in dev
14:23:38 <gcb> #topic Open discussion
14:25:10 <dims> gcb : any success with new PTL search? :)
14:26:01 <gcb> dims: no, I just submit for me  in case no others step up. I would like to quit if anyone want to take the role :-)
14:28:01 <kgiusti> general question.... does anyone have any experience with zeromq?
14:28:34 <kgiusti> I'm trying to understand if zeromq can be made to understand virtual hosting....
14:28:55 <dims> kgiusti : we lost everyone from that effort :(
14:29:05 <kgiusti> :(
14:29:06 <gcb> we had one zeromq expert before:(
14:29:08 <dims> gcb : thanks!!
14:29:37 <kgiusti> kk thanks - I'll keep googling...
14:30:45 <gcb> It's important that Attract more developers to contribute for Oslo
14:31:24 <xiaoyang_mobile> gcb:+1
14:31:25 <gcb> I have been trying to show the importance of oslo  like  https://review.openstack.org/491233
14:32:13 <gcb> xiaoyang_mobile is my colleague,  I encourage him spend more time on oslo :-)
14:32:54 <gcb> dims, dhellmann: do you think is it right that apply tc:approved-releases for oslo libraries ?
14:32:56 <dims> xiaoyang_mobile : please feel free to ping any one of us
14:33:14 <dims> gcb : i'll look in a little bit
14:34:23 <xiaoyang_mobile> dims:ok, thx
14:34:36 <gcb> in order to make oslo available in https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/   There are many use cases that  use oslo libraries outside of OpenStack
14:34:50 <gcb> dims: thanks
14:35:05 <gcb> about the PTG,  it's only one month before the PTG
14:35:28 <gcb> feel free to edit https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-queens
14:36:13 <gcb> I wonder if we can communicate with the people who can't attend the PTG through online meeting like zoom
14:37:19 <crushil> gcb, What days would the Oslo team would be meeting?
14:38:01 <gcb> Monday and Tuesday
14:38:15 <gcb> not sure we need two days
14:38:31 <crushil> Cool, thanks
14:38:41 <gcb> The second Project Teams Gathering (PTG) will be hosted in Denver, September 11-15, 2017
14:40:38 <gcb> Any topics :-)
14:40:44 <amotoki> small question: what is the recommended way for small features?
14:40:52 <amotoki> I am thinking some improvements on oslo.config generator with django lazy gettext in Queens (as horizon context)
14:41:02 <amotoki> blueprint for a specific project?
14:41:42 <gcb> oslo-spec
14:41:54 <gcb> we use it to collect blueprint for oslo
14:42:26 <amotoki> thanks. will submit a spec after checking the problem detail
14:43:05 <gcb> amotoki: thanks  here's the project http://www.github.com/openstack/oslo-specs
14:43:35 <amotoki> I have fixed only bugs in oslo, so i just wondered the spec process. thanks
14:47:16 <gcb_> #endmeeting
14:50:13 <gcb_> #endmeeting
14:51:11 <xiaoyang_mobile> #endmeeting
14:52:08 <gcb_> I lost my connection, seems can't end the meeting :(
15:36:26 <robcresswell> gcb: its because your username changed...
15:39:06 <pabelanger> #endmeeting