15:00:30 #startmeeting oslo 15:00:31 Meeting started Mon Dec 17 15:00:30 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:35 The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 15:00:52 courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims 15:00:52 courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo 15:00:52 courtesy ping for hberaud, jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_ 15:00:52 courtesy ping for moguimar, njohnston, raildo, redrobot, sileht, sreshetnyak, stephenfin 15:00:53 courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek 15:00:57 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting 15:01:09 o/ 15:01:10 \o-ish 15:01:12 o/ 15:01:17 o/ 15:02:43 o/ 15:03:02 bnemec: how do I feed the agenda? 15:03:12 if I want to put someting there 15:03:17 moguimar: Just edit the wiki page I linked above. 15:03:28 You should have access with your launchpad credentials. 15:03:41 The same ones as for gerrit. 15:04:15 #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 15:04:52 The tooz test jobs are broken with recent versions of grpcio. 15:05:10 I imagine that means there are problems in production use as well. 15:05:16 This is for the etcd3 driver only. 15:05:43 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tooz/+bug/1808046 15:05:45 Launchpad bug 1808046 in tooz "etcd3 driver failing with "Deadline Exceeded"" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Ben Nemec (bnemec) 15:06:15 done 15:06:23 We're working on capping the version in g-r and an issue has been opened with the grpc folks. 15:07:57 I think that's it from the oslo side. 15:08:04 Any other issues we should know about? 15:08:06 I also want to speak about the migrator topics https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.config+branch:master+topic:migrator 15:08:37 Yeah, that's on the agenda. We'll get there. 15:09:43 to raise the priority if possible, I've made some review on it and submit changes, do someone can take a look? 15:09:52 bnemec: ack 15:10:11 #topic Releases 15:10:22 Business as usual last week and this week. 15:10:52 There likely won't be any releases over the holidays however. 15:11:23 Which shouldn't be an enormous problem since I doubt there will be a lot of changes merging during that time either. :-) 15:11:48 #topic Action items from last meeting 15:12:02 "dhellmann to re-review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/593556/" 15:12:07 He did. Thanks Doug. 15:12:16 And that was it for action items. 15:12:38 #topic [RFE] Configuration mapping tool for upgrade 15:12:45 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.config+branch:master+topic:migrator 15:13:11 So the problem with this is that all of the folks that were working on it seem to have disappeared. 15:13:21 Which concerns me from a long-term maintenance perspective. 15:14:05 In addition, this feature requires some coordination with other projects to adopt fully. 15:14:36 bnemec: which projects we need to coordinate? 15:14:38 People need to use the mapping when changing values from release to release, and someone needs to drive that cross-project work. 15:14:50 Merged openstack/oslosphinx master: Replacing the HTTP protocal with HTTPS in layout.html https://review.openstack.org/625218 15:14:56 bnemec: I can start a ML thread to manage this 15:15:18 hberaud: That would be good. 15:15:27 bnemec: ack 15:15:42 To be honest, I'm a little dubious of the value of the tool. I'm not sure how many people are manually writing OpenStack configs in the first place. 15:15:59 And if you're using puppet/ansible/chef/etc. to manage your config then they handle upgrades. 15:16:20 But I guess we can discuss this further on the list. 15:16:21 ok 15:16:45 Thanks for bringing it up. 15:17:01 bnemec: yeah I think it's can be a good approach to choose if we move forward on it 15:17:11 bnemec: my pleasure 15:17:16 * jungleboyj walks in late 15:17:21 #action hberaud to send email to openstack-discuss about oslo.config migrator 15:17:34 * bnemec give jungleboyj the stink-eye :-P 15:17:47 * jungleboyj looks sheepish 15:18:27 As if I'd ever be on time for a Monday morning meeting that I wasn't chairing. :-) 15:18:30 #topic Reviews: oslo.policy: Add ability for policy-checker to read configuration 15:18:38 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625038/3 15:18:44 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616659/7 15:18:54 just wanted to bring those reviews up 15:19:16 jaosorior was working on it and I suggested using oslo.config instead of argparse+configparser 15:19:35 then he asked me to take it over as he is in PTO 15:19:50 I know I'm subscribed to those. I saw some discussion around the design of the code. 15:19:54 Are you just looking for more input? 15:19:59 yep 15:20:17 input/validation 15:20:29 Okay, I'll try to take a closer look this week. 15:20:45 You might also ping some of the keystone folks as they have interest in oslo.policy as well. 15:21:03 ok, thanks Ben 15:21:40 #action bnemec to look at oslo policy checker reviews 15:22:02 I really need to take a closer look at the pluggable policy spec too. :-/ 15:22:33 I'm guessing that won't get in until 2019 at this point though. 15:22:39 #action moguimar to ping keystone folks for the oslo.policy change 15:22:53 I think jaosorior won't be back til 2019 too 15:23:12 And that leads us neatly into our next topic: 15:23:14 #topic No meetings next two weeks 15:23:33 It's that time of year when everyone is out for holiday breaks. 15:23:35 * dhellmann slinks in later 15:23:48 Wow, how did I beat dhellmann :-) 15:24:02 I'm around for the rest of this week, but then I'll be out for the year too. 15:24:17 I think many of our Oslo cores are in the same boat. 15:25:53 So, to sum up, no meetings the next two weeks, mostly likely no releases after this week, and also likely much reduced review activity until 2019. 15:26:13 I'll send an email to the list just for completeness. 15:26:18 this is my last week too 15:26:31 #action bnemec to send mail to openstack-discuss about EOY plans. 15:27:31 Okay, that was it for topics. 15:27:33 #topic Weekly Wayward Review 15:29:13 I'm going to skip a couple of feature reviews because we probably can't resolve those here. 15:29:14 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616605/ 15:29:37 That one's had some discussion already and I think it's ready to go. 15:32:38 dhellmann: This one's probably you too since you were -1 before. 15:32:55 I'll put that on my queue for this week 15:33:01 today is going to be busy 15:33:14 if someone else looks at it and thinks it's ok, that's fine with me 15:33:39 Okay, thanks. 15:33:59 #topic Open discussion 15:34:05 Anything else this week? 15:34:09 do someone can take a look to the workflow validation of this one please? => https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618482/ 15:36:25 Ill put that one in my review list hberaud 15:36:44 moguimar: thx :) 15:37:30 dhellmann: I put this one on my review list => https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616605/ 15:37:59 Thanks guys. 15:39:19 o/ 15:39:34 o/ 15:41:11 Okay, sounds like we're done. 15:41:19 Thanks for joining everyone and see you in 2019! 15:41:20 o/ 15:41:27 see you! 15:41:33 #endmeeting