15:00:49 <bnemec> #startmeeting oslo 15:00:49 <bnemec> Courtesy ping for bnemec, smcginnis, moguimar, johnsom, stephenfin, bcafarel, kgiusti, jungleboyj 15:00:49 <bnemec> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting 15:00:50 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Sep 14 15:00:49 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:52 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:54 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 15:01:01 <hberaud> o/ 15:01:03 <johnsom> o/ 15:01:17 <bnemec> Sorry about last week. I forgot to send an email about the US holiday. 15:01:25 <moguimar> o/ 15:01:31 <kgiusti> o/ 15:02:04 <stephenfin> o/ 15:02:57 <jungleboyj> o/ 15:03:21 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/oslo.config master: Update master for stable/victoria https://review.opendev.org/751454 15:03:29 <bnemec> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 15:03:50 <johnsom> Nothing on the Octavia side 15:04:11 <jungleboyj> Nothing from Cinder. 15:05:00 <moguimar> Nothing from Barbican 15:06:21 <bnemec> Hopefully things will be pretty quiet from here out since we're well past library freeze. 15:06:28 <bnemec> #topic Releases 15:06:47 <bnemec> Speaking of which, the (hopefully) final releases for all the Oslo libs went out last week. 15:07:19 <bnemec> I see everything got branched, so if we find any more release blockers in Victoria they'll need to be backported. 15:08:22 <bnemec> So we'll pause releases for a while here until Victoria ships. 15:08:35 <moguimar> one question 15:08:41 <bnemec> Except stable branches. If any releases are needed there we can still do them. 15:09:03 <moguimar> if we're branched already, and new stuff needs to be backported to that branch, how does that interacts with feature freeze? 15:10:38 <bnemec> Same as before branching. Post feature freeze, any new feature changes would need an FFE. It would also need to be backported now. 15:11:04 <bnemec> Bugfixes are fair game, but we might need to clear the releases with the requirements team too now. 15:11:36 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/pycadf stable/victoria: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/victoria https://review.opendev.org/750340 15:11:57 <bnemec> moguimar: Did you have something specific in mind? 15:12:12 <moguimar> not really 15:12:38 <moguimar> just wondering if things could go to master and the FFE be necessary for backports only 15:13:20 <moguimar> that could be a topic for the PTG maybe, I don't know how deeply this has been discussed already 15:13:29 <bnemec> They can, although I try to discourage merging anything major between FF and release, just in case we have an emergency backport that needs to be done. 15:13:42 <bnemec> If some big feature merged, it can make backporting a bugfix harder. 15:13:50 <moguimar> I see 15:14:03 <moguimar> that makes a very good point 15:14:07 <moguimar> thanks Ben 15:14:23 <bnemec> np 15:14:38 <bnemec> #topic Action items from last meeting 15:14:53 <bnemec> "bnemec send feature freeze email" 15:15:09 <bnemec> I believe I did that. 15:15:36 <bnemec> Although since we ended up releasing most stuff again anyway, I guess it didn't mean much. :-) 15:16:17 <bnemec> That was all the action items. 15:16:20 <bnemec> #topic Focal migration 15:16:35 <bnemec> gmann: Since we merged all of these and got them released, was there anything else needed here? 15:18:37 <bnemec> I'm going to say we're done with this one, but we can come back to it if necessary. 15:18:46 <bnemec> #topic zuulv3 migration 15:19:13 <bnemec> Last I saw, I think we were just waiting on reviews of kgiusti's repo retirement patches. 15:19:31 <tosky> the legacy job has been deleted 15:19:38 <tosky> so from the goal's point of view you should be fine 15:19:49 <bnemec> \o/ 15:19:55 <kgiusti> huzzah! 15:20:06 <bnemec> #success Oslo has fully migrated to zuulv3! 15:20:08 <openstackstatus> bnemec: Added success to Success page (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Successes) 15:20:10 <tosky> you can still backport some of the patches to the older branches, it should improve the future maintenability 15:20:58 <tosky> I think I proposed some of them, but yeah, feel free to continue, the backports should work at least in train and, apart from grenade, stein 15:21:08 <tosky> thanks for the help! 15:21:14 <bnemec> Good to know, thanks! 15:21:28 <bnemec> And thanks to tosky for coordinating! 15:21:36 <kgiusti> +1 tosky! 15:22:31 * tosky bows 15:23:32 <bnemec> #topic PTG/Forum Planning 15:23:38 <bnemec> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oslo-wallaby-topics 15:24:05 <bnemec> I've created the etherpad for the PTG. Pretty much the same thing we've used for the past few. 15:24:21 <bnemec> If you have anything you'd like to discuss, please get it added to the list. 15:24:59 <bnemec> Although I've already requested a couple of hours for us, so unless we have a huge number of topics come up I think we'll be covered. 15:25:31 <bnemec> I should send an email out with that too. 15:25:39 <bnemec> #action bnemec send ptg planning email 15:26:33 <bnemec> That's it for topics. 15:26:35 <bnemec> #topic Weekly Wayward Review 15:27:32 <bnemec> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/719876/ 15:27:52 <bnemec> Looks like this was unblocked by the focal work. We probably need to merge it and then backport. 15:29:01 <bnemec> Okay, step one is done. 15:29:05 <smcginnis> That one should probably be backport to stable/victoria. We have wallaby tests now in master. 15:29:08 <bnemec> #action backport https://review.opendev.org/#/c/719876/ 15:29:55 <smcginnis> Er, correction, we will need wallaby tests in master. Looks like that repo didn't get update since it was missing the expected victoria template. 15:30:09 <smcginnis> So we'll need to update master too. 15:30:11 <bnemec> Ah, yeah. 15:30:44 <bnemec> #action Switch oslo.utils to wallaby test template 15:31:04 <gmann> bnemec: that is all for Victoria, thanks again. 15:31:06 <bnemec> Once the patch above merges we can go ahead with that. 15:32:04 <bnemec> gmann: +1. Sorry about the delay getting this goal taken care of. 15:32:32 <bnemec> It's especially bad because I made the same mistake two cycles in a row. :-( 15:32:51 <bnemec> #topic Open discussion 15:33:04 <bnemec> That's all the regular topics. Anything else this week? 15:33:08 <moguimar> I proposed lbragstad a couple of weeks ago for oslo.cache core 15:33:15 <moguimar> any updates here? 15:36:22 <bnemec> Oh, no, we can go ahead and add him. One second. 15:36:38 <stephenfin> I have another one: does https://review.opendev.org/#/c/751031/ qualify as a backport? 15:36:45 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/oslo.middleware master: Add Python3 wallaby unit tests https://review.opendev.org/751484 15:37:32 <stephenfin> On one hand, it's obviously broken at the moment. On the other, it's technically a feature patch since the "feature" didn't work without this change 15:37:45 <stephenfin> *feature-enabling patch 15:38:22 <bnemec> This is needed to enable parallel docs builds in other projects, right? 15:39:18 <stephenfin> yep 15:39:44 <bnemec> I'm okay with backporting it. We've accepted backports of things that are technically features that fix bugs before. 15:40:12 <stephenfin> sweet 15:40:16 <bnemec> And it's just in the sphinxext, so it's not like we're going to break someone's production deployment even if something is catastrophically wrong. 15:40:57 <bnemec> Unless smcginnis objects, of course. :-) 15:41:19 * stephenfin worries about those multi-million dollar business build on our fantastic sphinx extensions 15:41:20 <stephenfin> :) 15:42:01 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/oslo.serialization master: Add Python3 wallaby unit tests https://review.opendev.org/751504 15:42:22 <bnemec> I would love to see how that business model works. :-) 15:42:51 <stephenfin> If Uber can do it... 15:43:16 <smcginnis> bnemec: Seems like a low risk backport. 15:44:09 <bnemec> True. It seems making money is optional in the tech industry. Just as long as you can keep that VC gravy train running. 15:44:23 <bnemec> smcginnis: That was my thought as well. 15:45:29 <bnemec> Sounds like we're all in agreement on this. 15:45:36 <bnemec> Anything else before I end the meeting? 15:46:17 <stephenfin> not from me 15:46:27 <hberaud> nope 15:46:59 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/oslo.reports master: Add Python3 wallaby unit tests https://review.opendev.org/751496 15:47:08 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/oslo.db master: Add Python3 wallaby unit tests https://review.opendev.org/751463 15:48:45 <bnemec> Okay, thanks for joining everyone! 15:48:48 <bnemec> #endmeeting