16:00:01 <hberaud> #startmeeting oslo
16:00:02 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Jan 11 16:00:01 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:00:05 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'oslo'
16:00:07 <hberaud> Courtesy ping for hberaud, stephenfin, moguimar, jungleboyj, bnemec, johnsom, bcafarel, kgiusti, gmann, valleedelisle
16:00:13 <hberaud> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting
16:00:19 <hberaud> Will just wait a couple minutes for folks.
16:00:31 <moguimar> o/
16:00:48 <jungleboyj> o/
16:00:48 <johnsom> o/
16:00:57 <bnemec> o/
16:01:10 <stephenfin> o/
16:01:18 * stephenfin lurks as usual (downstream meeting)
16:01:23 <hberaud> :)
16:03:02 <hberaud> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
16:03:22 <jungleboyj> Nothing from Cinder that I am aware of.
16:03:36 <moguimar> Nothing from Barbican
16:03:55 <hberaud> Nothing from Oslo that I'm aware of.
16:04:17 <johnsom> Nothing to report from Octavia or Designate
16:06:10 <hberaud> #topic Releases liaison
16:07:14 <hberaud> I think we've a bunch of things to release now, I need to take a look to me report to see what need a new version
16:07:19 <hberaud> damani: any update?
16:08:21 <hberaud> a new fix have been recently merged on oslo.messaging, that could be nice to release it
16:08:40 <hberaud> I'll try to spend time on it tomorrow
16:09:02 <hberaud> #topic Security liaison
16:09:14 <hberaud> bnemec: Any update?
16:09:29 <bnemec> Nope, all clear.
16:09:56 <hberaud> No news, good news :)
16:10:08 <hberaud> #topic TaCT SIG liaison
16:10:18 <moguimar> No smoke detected last week.
16:10:29 <hberaud> ack thanks
16:11:36 <hberaud> #topic Action items from last meeting
16:12:18 * hberaud moguimar officializing oslo's position concerning the cursive migration
16:12:37 <moguimar> done
16:12:45 <hberaud> awesome
16:12:56 <hberaud> thanks
16:12:57 <moguimar> just confirmed with Doug from Barbican and updated everyone in the ML
16:13:42 <hberaud> from a Barbican POV everything seems ok?
16:13:46 <moguimar> yep
16:13:58 <hberaud> awesome, thanks
16:14:01 * hberaud hberaud confirm the drop of LC job on oslo by reply on the ML thread
16:14:03 <hberaud> done too
16:14:15 <hberaud> #topic Weekly Wayward Wallaby Review
16:15:29 <hberaud> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.db/+/767732
16:15:41 <hberaud> just a L.C drop
16:16:10 <hberaud> that needs reviews
16:17:20 <bnemec> +2.
16:17:27 <bnemec> Do we want to single approve the l-c drop patches?
16:17:34 <hberaud> notice that someone experienced a bug recently with oslo.db so possibly we will have soon to merge a fix and this one will unlock our path
16:17:46 <bnemec> It's something we already agreed to as a team.
16:17:56 <hberaud> bnemec: Yes, I think we can go ahead
16:18:31 <hberaud> moguimar, stephenfin: is it ok for you? ^
16:18:42 <moguimar> sure
16:18:56 <stephenfin> Have we agreed to drop them at the community level?
16:19:36 <stephenfin> IIRC we discussed this in nova last week and decided to just make them non-voting until that discussion was finalized
16:19:44 <bnemec> Seems to be trending that way.
16:19:51 <bnemec> We can always put them back if something changes.
16:19:54 <hberaud> Not yet officially, a discussion have been started by the TC http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019672.html
16:20:03 <gmann> there is still no consensus on community level
16:20:14 <gmann> I will bring that in TC thursday meeting this week
16:20:22 <hberaud> gmann: awesome, thanks
16:20:45 <moguimar> did you miss oslo.config?
16:20:47 <hberaud> Else I agree with bnemec
16:21:05 <stephenfin> True that
16:21:14 <stephenfin> aight, single +2 is fine by me
16:21:22 <hberaud> moguimar: good question, apparently yes
16:21:34 <hberaud> moguimar: do you want to manage this one?
16:21:39 <moguimar> k
16:21:41 <moguimar> will do
16:21:46 <hberaud> thanks
16:22:00 <hberaud> Then I think we can move one
16:22:03 <hberaud> #topic Open discussion
16:22:17 <hberaud> Anything else?
16:22:28 * hberaud yes
16:23:03 <bnemec> You know, as the meeting moderator you can just add topics. ;-)
16:23:37 <hberaud> Just a heads up, I'll start a discussion about qpid/qdr and the oslo world ASAP
16:24:13 <hberaud> bnemec: yes true :), but I don't have much more than that for now ^
16:24:25 <moguimar> I see
16:24:39 <moguimar> oslo.config doesn't have a .zuul.yaml file
16:24:51 <hberaud> So yes next weeks I'll surely add related topics and surely I'll send related ML thread
16:24:53 <bnemec> What is the qpid discussion?
16:24:55 <moguimar> but a .zuul.d/project.yaml
16:25:15 <moguimar> should I move the file in a separate patch?
16:25:25 <bnemec> moguimar: Is that the only thing in .zuul.d?
16:25:30 <moguimar> yep
16:25:36 <bnemec> I suppose I could go look... ;-)
16:25:53 <bnemec> Maybe move it first then remove l-c?
16:26:01 <moguimar> just a single file with -project: -templates...
16:26:02 <bnemec> That way if we need to revert the l-c change it will apply cleanly.
16:26:08 <hberaud> bnemec: Is it possible to move on qpid/qdr, how to do that from an openstack POV, what we need, etc...
16:26:25 <moguimar> ok, I'll move first
16:26:58 <hberaud> Else, that's all for me
16:27:09 <hberaud> anything else?
16:27:17 <bnemec> hberaud: Good luck. New messaging backends are historically a hard sell to operators. :-/
16:27:32 <hberaud> bnemec: thanks :)
16:27:53 <bnemec> I know it had some potential applications for edge though, so maybe that's a selling point.
16:28:04 <bnemec> Anyway, will be interested to see that discussion.
16:28:32 <bnemec> Oh, hey, I actually have something to mention here.
16:28:46 <hberaud> bnemec: it could be the chance to grab some related histories, do not hesitate to share links :)
16:29:06 <hberaud> bnemec: no rush for now
16:29:18 <hberaud> bnemec: the floor is yours
16:29:40 <bnemec> kgiusti is probably the one with all the background on qdr. I just went to some presentations. :-)
16:29:43 <openstackgerrit> Moisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Move zuul config file to root folder  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.config/+/770146
16:29:43 <openstackgerrit> Moisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Dropping lower constraints testing  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.config/+/770147
16:29:50 <moguimar> done
16:29:55 <bnemec> All I wanted to mention was that we got a response to the bug on fasteners: https://github.com/harlowja/fasteners/issues/36
16:30:24 <bnemec> It's been broken for a year and a half, but it sounds like someone may be looking into it.
16:30:37 <bnemec> Unclear whether they're going to merge my revert or try to find a proper fix.
16:30:57 <bnemec> But since we've had to carry a cap on it for this entire time, it's good news.
16:31:01 <hberaud> bnemec: ack, I don't really remember this one
16:31:20 <bnemec> I barely did either. :-)
16:31:38 <hberaud> any takers?
16:31:40 <bnemec> Fortunately it reproduced first try for me so it wasn't hard to verify.
16:32:10 <bnemec> I'm hoping someone from the fasteners team is going to take care of it.
16:32:34 <bnemec> I just wanted to mention it because it lives outside of OpenStack now but is made up of code that was factored out of oslo.concurrency and heavily used by o.c.
16:32:58 <bnemec> Although if anyone wants to dig further I'm sure it would be welcome!
16:33:20 <hberaud> Yes you're right it's worth to mention it here
16:33:45 <bnemec> That's all I've got.
16:35:41 <hberaud> Concerning myself I'm not sure I have time for that now, but sometime I can bring this topic during one of our next meeting, anyway thank you for the heads up.
16:36:05 <hberaud> OK, thanks everyone. Almost there!
16:37:01 <hberaud> #endmeeting