16:00:01 #startmeeting oslo 16:00:02 Meeting started Mon Jan 11 16:00:01 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 16:00:07 Courtesy ping for hberaud, stephenfin, moguimar, jungleboyj, bnemec, johnsom, bcafarel, kgiusti, gmann, valleedelisle 16:00:13 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting 16:00:19 Will just wait a couple minutes for folks. 16:00:31 o/ 16:00:48 o/ 16:00:48 o/ 16:00:57 o/ 16:01:10 o/ 16:01:18 * stephenfin lurks as usual (downstream meeting) 16:01:23 :) 16:03:02 #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 16:03:22 Nothing from Cinder that I am aware of. 16:03:36 Nothing from Barbican 16:03:55 Nothing from Oslo that I'm aware of. 16:04:17 Nothing to report from Octavia or Designate 16:06:10 #topic Releases liaison 16:07:14 I think we've a bunch of things to release now, I need to take a look to me report to see what need a new version 16:07:19 damani: any update? 16:08:21 a new fix have been recently merged on oslo.messaging, that could be nice to release it 16:08:40 I'll try to spend time on it tomorrow 16:09:02 #topic Security liaison 16:09:14 bnemec: Any update? 16:09:29 Nope, all clear. 16:09:56 No news, good news :) 16:10:08 #topic TaCT SIG liaison 16:10:18 No smoke detected last week. 16:10:29 ack thanks 16:11:36 #topic Action items from last meeting 16:12:18 * hberaud moguimar officializing oslo's position concerning the cursive migration 16:12:37 done 16:12:45 awesome 16:12:56 thanks 16:12:57 just confirmed with Doug from Barbican and updated everyone in the ML 16:13:42 from a Barbican POV everything seems ok? 16:13:46 yep 16:13:58 awesome, thanks 16:14:01 * hberaud hberaud confirm the drop of LC job on oslo by reply on the ML thread 16:14:03 done too 16:14:15 #topic Weekly Wayward Wallaby Review 16:15:29 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.db/+/767732 16:15:41 just a L.C drop 16:16:10 that needs reviews 16:17:20 +2. 16:17:27 Do we want to single approve the l-c drop patches? 16:17:34 notice that someone experienced a bug recently with oslo.db so possibly we will have soon to merge a fix and this one will unlock our path 16:17:46 It's something we already agreed to as a team. 16:17:56 bnemec: Yes, I think we can go ahead 16:18:31 moguimar, stephenfin: is it ok for you? ^ 16:18:42 sure 16:18:56 Have we agreed to drop them at the community level? 16:19:36 IIRC we discussed this in nova last week and decided to just make them non-voting until that discussion was finalized 16:19:44 Seems to be trending that way. 16:19:51 We can always put them back if something changes. 16:19:54 Not yet officially, a discussion have been started by the TC http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019672.html 16:20:03 there is still no consensus on community level 16:20:14 I will bring that in TC thursday meeting this week 16:20:22 gmann: awesome, thanks 16:20:45 did you miss oslo.config? 16:20:47 Else I agree with bnemec 16:21:05 True that 16:21:14 aight, single +2 is fine by me 16:21:22 moguimar: good question, apparently yes 16:21:34 moguimar: do you want to manage this one? 16:21:39 k 16:21:41 will do 16:21:46 thanks 16:22:00 Then I think we can move one 16:22:03 #topic Open discussion 16:22:17 Anything else? 16:22:28 * hberaud yes 16:23:03 You know, as the meeting moderator you can just add topics. ;-) 16:23:37 Just a heads up, I'll start a discussion about qpid/qdr and the oslo world ASAP 16:24:13 bnemec: yes true :), but I don't have much more than that for now ^ 16:24:25 I see 16:24:39 oslo.config doesn't have a .zuul.yaml file 16:24:51 So yes next weeks I'll surely add related topics and surely I'll send related ML thread 16:24:53 What is the qpid discussion? 16:24:55 but a .zuul.d/project.yaml 16:25:15 should I move the file in a separate patch? 16:25:25 moguimar: Is that the only thing in .zuul.d? 16:25:30 yep 16:25:36 I suppose I could go look... ;-) 16:25:53 Maybe move it first then remove l-c? 16:26:01 just a single file with -project: -templates... 16:26:02 That way if we need to revert the l-c change it will apply cleanly. 16:26:08 bnemec: Is it possible to move on qpid/qdr, how to do that from an openstack POV, what we need, etc... 16:26:25 ok, I'll move first 16:26:58 Else, that's all for me 16:27:09 anything else? 16:27:17 hberaud: Good luck. New messaging backends are historically a hard sell to operators. :-/ 16:27:32 bnemec: thanks :) 16:27:53 I know it had some potential applications for edge though, so maybe that's a selling point. 16:28:04 Anyway, will be interested to see that discussion. 16:28:32 Oh, hey, I actually have something to mention here. 16:28:46 bnemec: it could be the chance to grab some related histories, do not hesitate to share links :) 16:29:06 bnemec: no rush for now 16:29:18 bnemec: the floor is yours 16:29:40 kgiusti is probably the one with all the background on qdr. I just went to some presentations. :-) 16:29:43 Moisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Move zuul config file to root folder https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.config/+/770146 16:29:43 Moisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Dropping lower constraints testing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.config/+/770147 16:29:50 done 16:29:55 All I wanted to mention was that we got a response to the bug on fasteners: https://github.com/harlowja/fasteners/issues/36 16:30:24 It's been broken for a year and a half, but it sounds like someone may be looking into it. 16:30:37 Unclear whether they're going to merge my revert or try to find a proper fix. 16:30:57 But since we've had to carry a cap on it for this entire time, it's good news. 16:31:01 bnemec: ack, I don't really remember this one 16:31:20 I barely did either. :-) 16:31:38 any takers? 16:31:40 Fortunately it reproduced first try for me so it wasn't hard to verify. 16:32:10 I'm hoping someone from the fasteners team is going to take care of it. 16:32:34 I just wanted to mention it because it lives outside of OpenStack now but is made up of code that was factored out of oslo.concurrency and heavily used by o.c. 16:32:58 Although if anyone wants to dig further I'm sure it would be welcome! 16:33:20 Yes you're right it's worth to mention it here 16:33:45 That's all I've got. 16:35:41 Concerning myself I'm not sure I have time for that now, but sometime I can bring this topic during one of our next meeting, anyway thank you for the heads up. 16:36:05 OK, thanks everyone. Almost there! 16:37:01 #endmeeting