13:07:26 <Damani_> #startmeeting oslo
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13:07:42 <Damani_> courtesy ping for hberaud, bnemec, johnsom, redrobot, stephenfin, bcafarel, kgiusti, jungleboyj, gmann, tobias-urdin
13:08:43 <Damani_> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/epoxy-oslo-meeting-tracking
13:09:02 <tkajinam> not sure if that ping list is still up-to-date
13:09:15 <Damani_> no
13:09:20 <Damani_> you're right
13:09:45 <Damani_> probably not, but that will be a good way to update the list :)
13:09:48 <Damani_> #topic Red flags for/from liaisons
13:10:34 <Damani_> actually i think we can probably jump direct to the open discussion
13:11:12 <Damani_> tkajinam, what do you think?
13:11:14 <tkajinam> I was about to ask what that red flags you will discuss
13:11:26 <Damani_> no red flags actually
13:11:38 <Damani_> so let's jump to the open discussion
13:11:41 <Damani_> #topic Open discussion
13:12:18 <Damani_> about the epoxy-1 releases yes it's a good point and i have started to do code review
13:12:36 <Damani_> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22epoxy-milestone-1%22+status:open
13:12:52 <tkajinam> because we are at still E-1 we don't have to rush too much to merge things before that release
13:12:53 <Damani_> tkajinam, about the releases do you have something else do you want to mention?
13:13:02 <Damani_> yes right
13:13:18 <tkajinam> but it's probably a good reminder for us, because we are expected to land big changes earlier than the other projects
13:13:36 <tkajinam> so if you can check pending items for master, that would be good
13:13:55 <Damani_> yes i will do it
13:14:09 <Damani_> and yes about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/934465
13:14:33 <tkajinam> for antelope as I mentioned in the etherpad we have to check any pending backports to 2023.1
13:14:42 <Damani_> we need to check and do a list of backport we potentially need to do
13:14:42 <tkajinam> and also any changes we haven't yet released
13:14:46 <tkajinam> yeah
13:14:46 <Damani_> yes
13:15:01 <Damani_> that is pretty important
13:15:19 <tkajinam> I've been pulled by some "fun" stuffs happening so I'm unsure if I can take time for it
13:15:42 <tkajinam> but as a few projects already transitioned their stable/2023.1 to unmaintained/* we may need to complete in a few weeks
13:15:48 <Damani_> i will  do it
13:15:55 <tkajinam> I mean "take time for it this week"
13:15:56 <tkajinam> thx
13:16:22 <Damani_> maybe i will just ping you sometimes to double check with you
13:16:28 <Damani_> if it's ok?
13:16:57 <tkajinam> yeah I'll respond to it on best effort basis.
13:17:20 <Damani_> sounds good
13:17:45 <Damani_> ok next topic update constraints for oslo.utils https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/934176
13:18:12 <tkajinam> this is just fyi. the bump is currently blocked by os-vif
13:18:22 <Damani_> ok
13:18:27 <Damani_> i see now
13:18:31 <Damani_> thanks a lot
13:18:40 <tkajinam> we need https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/932436 but os-vif has broken CI now
13:18:53 <Damani_> yes
13:18:57 <tkajinam> from oslo's perspective we have nothing we can really do.
13:19:27 <Damani_> and now i think we can talk about the oslo.service and the proposal removal of eventlet
13:20:03 <Damani_> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo-specs/+/927503
13:20:11 <tkajinam> do you want to set # topic ?
13:20:54 <Damani_> #topic oslo.service proposal removal of eventlet
13:21:10 <tkajinam> (by the way, for next time, we can fist discuss the agenda item to prioritize these and then move to open discussions
13:21:18 <Damani_> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo-specs/+/927503
13:21:27 <Damani_> tkajinam, yes right sorry for that
13:21:38 <tkajinam> np
13:21:45 <Damani_> in will dom that for next time
13:22:56 <Damani_> tkajinam, did you have take a look?
13:23:04 <opendevreview> Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/oslo-specs master: oslo.service: Propose a plan to Remove Eventlet  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo-specs/+/927503
13:23:19 <Damani_> hberaud, are you around?
13:24:43 <tkajinam> I've not yet go through the latest version but will do. I don't have any objections about the whole direction so my comments (if I have any) may be trivial one we can address in follow-up
13:25:31 <tkajinam> I'm more curious to know the implementation side. I've seen a few patches to deprecate eventlet things but I've not yet seen any core change to implement the core switch mechanism.
13:26:24 <Damani_> so in olso.service the idea is to use cotyledon, futurist and thread
13:27:57 <Damani_> we just need to add also a new backend system and as mentionned in a comment need to structure and manage import in a runtime level
13:28:48 <Damani_> for me that seems good and i think the patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo-specs/+/927503/8/specs/epoxy/remove-eventlet-from-oslo-service.rst
13:28:53 <Damani_> can be merge
13:29:06 <Damani_> but i don't know if someone have objections about it
13:31:53 <tkajinam> project wide feedback may be gathered by the separate SIG meeting. because it's not feasible to gather opinions everyone involved with I'd suggest time box approach
13:31:57 <tkajinam> I mean set the deadline
13:33:31 <Damani_> ok
13:33:49 <Damani_> you mean for the specs or for the implementation?
13:35:15 <Damani_> deadline for the specs i think it will be great if we have a decision and merge for next week
13:35:16 <tkajinam> both
13:35:24 <tkajinam> but for now, I'm basically talking about that spec
13:35:44 <Damani_> i can send a mail to ask new code review and feedback
13:36:03 <Damani_> i will send a mail today about that
13:36:06 <Damani_> thanks a lot
13:36:24 <Damani_> do you something else you want mention about that topic?
13:37:24 <tkajinam> nothing else today
13:37:44 <Damani_> ok
13:38:18 <Damani_> just a last thing i forget about epoxy, i have proposed a patch in releases to update the schedule for oslo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/934642
13:38:38 <Damani_> tkajinam, hberaud, if you can take a look please :)
13:38:47 <tkajinam> ok
13:39:07 <Damani_> thanks a lot
13:39:21 <Damani_> so if you have nothing else i proposed to end the meeting for today
13:39:50 <Damani_> tkajinam, thanks a lot for your time and participation
13:40:02 <Damani_> #endmeeting