13:02:16 <vkmc> #startmeeting Outreachy midterm 13:02:17 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 4 13:02:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vkmc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:02:18 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:02:20 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'outreachy_midterm' 13:02:27 <vkmc> troubles of being user of several meeting bots 13:02:35 <vkmc> #topic roll call 13:02:46 <vkmc> who is here for the outreachy meeting? :) 13:02:47 <vkmc> o/ 13:02:52 <ajya> \o 13:02:58 <sasha_jitsu> Hi! 13:03:00 <lxkong> hi 13:03:25 <vkmc> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-outreachy-midterm-may-aug-2018 13:03:34 <vkmc> I created a short agenda to guide this meeting 13:04:24 <vkmc> considering that not everybody will be able to join today, hopefully we can share updates in that etherpad and then catch up with the ones that couldn't make it today 13:05:02 <vkmc> and... in order to give you some more time for work on your presentation, I'll move the organizers introduction on the top 13:05:08 <vkmc> we can do interns and mentors then 13:05:36 <vkmc> #link outreachy openstack organizers introduction 13:05:41 <vkmc> #topic outreachy openstack organizers introduction 13:05:43 <vkmc> there 13:05:48 <vkmc> hey everybody 13:06:05 <Ne_> Hello Everybody! I am Neerja interning for OpenStack -Qinling with the guidance of my mentor Lingxian 13:06:34 <vkmc> I'm Victoria, I'm a software engineer at Red Hat currently focused on the Manila project 13:06:57 <vkmc> I've joined Outreachy (former Outreach Program for Women) in 2013 and that's how I started working at OpenStack 13:07:07 <vkmc> I'm currently one of the coordinators for Outreachy OpenStack 13:07:25 <vkmc> mahatic, are you around for any chance=? 13:08:25 <vkmc> seems not 13:08:37 <vkmc> ok, mahatic is also coordinator for Outreachy 13:08:56 <vkmc> and hopefully she will introduce herself next time around 13:09:01 <vkmc> now... 13:09:22 <vkmc> #topic outreachy openstack interns introduction 13:09:36 <vkmc> Ne_, do you want to start? already shared something about you :) 13:10:10 <Ne_> Sure! 13:12:21 <vkmc> Ne_, ? 13:12:48 <lxkong> maybe she is typing... 13:12:59 <vkmc> yes 13:13:24 <Ne_> I am currently a student at UT, Arlington and I am focused on giving back to the Open source community! Currently I am working on the Qinling project which is a serverless computer service for OpenStack . I am now focused on creating a python guide for Qinling! It's been great and exciting so far due to my mentor who has always supported me and clarified all the small doubts which I had. 13:13:46 <Ne_> They say it's very important to get a good mentor in your career to kick start your career and I'm very happy to say I have got one :) 13:13:53 <Ne_> Yes, I was indeed typing! 13:13:56 <Ne_> :) 13:14:02 <vkmc> awesome! 13:14:08 <lxkong> :-) 13:14:37 <vkmc> I agree is very important to get a good mentor 13:14:49 <vkmc> happy to hear you have one! 13:14:56 <lxkong> I agree i am not a bad mentor 13:15:00 <vkmc> haha 13:15:47 <vkmc> Ne_, how things have be gone so far? 13:15:57 <Ne_> Yes, a great one infact! 13:16:04 <vkmc> could you get in touch with the rest of the Qinling community? 13:18:01 <Ne_> So far its going good! I have to provide a patch reviewed by the other Qinling members other than my mentor. Qinling is a growing community and I would take time to interact with them. 13:18:33 <vkmc> Ne_, all right 13:18:43 <vkmc> does qinling have a irc channel? 13:18:55 <vkmc> perhaps #openstack-qinling? 13:18:59 <lxkong> sure, #openstack-qinling 13:19:18 <vkmc> super 13:19:42 <vkmc> well, it's great to start in a project like this... gives more space to learn new things and to make better contributions 13:19:48 <Ne_> I started my Internship a lil late than other members due to my school's policy's but I am definitely catching up! Yes, its openstack-qinling 13:20:02 <vkmc> I started contributing to marconi (nowadays the zaqar project) and certainly there was a lot of room for changes 13:20:15 <vkmc> (and therefore, learning) 13:20:37 <vkmc> well, thanks Ne_! 13:20:41 <vkmc> it's good to hear from you 13:21:00 <vkmc> next in the etherpad we have Aleksandra 13:21:17 <vkmc> not sure about her irc handle :) 13:21:20 <vkmc> is she around? 13:22:00 <sasha_jitsu> yep 13:22:40 <vkmc> sasha_jitsu, o/ 13:23:02 <sasha_jitsu> Hi! My name is Sasha, I live in Moscow. I graduated from Saratov University with a degree in Information Security Specialist in 2014 but I have never worked in IT. In the past, I am a professional coach in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Now I'm practicing combat sport at the amateur level. In my hometown of Saratov, I created a Brazilian Jiu club, which exists and is still developing. I am also an LGBT and a femme activist, 13:23:03 <sasha_jitsu> helping my friend develop a combat sports club for LGBT and women in Moscow.Now I decided to return to IT, because I was always interested in this industry, after the university, I learned a python myself, studied machine learning. 13:23:45 <sasha_jitsu> My mentor is Dmitry Tantsur and Ilya Etingof. I'm working on redfish project. I do unit tests and virtual media API for sushy. 13:24:01 <vkmc> wow, that's so awesome! 13:24:21 <sasha_jitsu> I got sick half of June and a little behind the schedule, but I hope that everything will be fine 13:24:30 <vkmc> oh, hope you are doing better 13:24:47 <vkmc> could you tell us a bit more about redfish and sushy? 13:29:23 <sasha_jitsu> all I typed did not go, i have any problem with internet 13:29:32 <vkmc> sasha_jitsu, no worries 13:31:29 <vkmc> while you type, next in the agenda is Aija 13:31:33 <vkmc> ajya, around? 13:31:39 <ajya> hi, I'm here 13:31:58 <vkmc> hey :) 13:32:02 <vkmc> want to introduce yourself? 13:32:06 <ajya> I'm working on the same project with the same mentors as sasha_jitsu, so I will skip the part about the project 13:33:13 <ajya> myself I'm a software engineer for a while, mainly worked on enterprise software in c#, java. Got myself between countries and jobs and decided to apply for Outreachy, I always wanted to do this, but leaving job for this did not seem a good idea :) 13:34:02 <ajya> so far I like this, learning a lot of new things as Redfish and Ironic is in domain I have never worked before, usually I was working on information systems in education, HR etc. 13:34:24 <vkmc> that's a big change 13:35:22 <vkmc> how is that you got interested in the redfish project? 13:35:26 <vkmc> same for sasha_jitsu ^ 13:36:15 <vkmc> and... have you met with the rest of the community for your project? 13:36:30 <vkmc> do you use the #openstack-ironic channel or is there another one? 13:36:57 <ajya> wanted something completely new, I was looking at linux kernel project but that would be too much for now to learn as it was in C instead of Python 13:37:41 <ajya> yeah, I'm hanging around in #openstack-ironic channel, mostly in read-only mode but I got help when I needed 13:37:57 <vkmc> ok super 13:38:44 <vkmc> it's always a great idea to ask for help when you hit a blocker... make sure to ask good questions and to share context (using tools like paste.openstack.org for long logs, or etherpad.openstack.org for collaborating docs) 13:39:00 <vkmc> also it's very cool (and you can learn a lot) by helping other people if you see you can 13:39:14 <vkmc> and helping with smaller tasks (such as fixing a wiki, doing small reviews) 13:39:35 <sasha_jitsu> Redfish is a new protocol that replaces the IPMI. It allows you to administer virtual resources using JSON schemes 13:41:20 <vkmc> nice 13:41:24 <vkmc> thanks for the explanation :D 13:41:35 <vkmc> ok, it's very nice to meet you too! 13:41:42 <vkmc> e-meet* 13:41:47 <vkmc> hopefully we will meet someday 13:42:07 <vkmc> ok... next in the etherpad we have Fatema 13:42:31 <vkmc> but I'm not sure if she is around 13:43:10 <vkmc> hmm, I don't see any irc handle that seems related 13:43:13 <vkmc> ah well 13:43:14 <vkmc> moving along then 13:43:30 <vkmc> #topic outreachy openstack mentors introduction 13:43:56 <vkmc> we only have two mentors today in this room 13:43:59 <vkmc> lxkong, o/ 13:44:05 <vkmc> want to introduce yourself first? 13:44:08 <lxkong> aha ok 13:44:17 <lxkong> Hi, My name is Lingxian Kong, my inern is Neerja. 13:44:31 <lxkong> I'm currently I am working at Catalyst Cloud in New Zealand as a senior cloud computing engineer 13:44:41 * dtantsur will ping etingof meanwhile 13:44:58 <lxkong> I have been contributing to OpenStack for almost 5 years. Now I'm serving as the PTL of Qinling, which is a function-as-a-service project in OpenStack 13:45:32 <sasha_jitsu> Sorry, not Redfish. Sushy and sushy tools which is an adapter for Redfish, as far as I understand 13:45:32 <lxkong> Besides OpenStack, I'm also an active contributor to cloud-provider-openstack for Kubernetes, my focus area in Kubernetes community is the integration with OpenStack, making it easily to consume OpenStack resources for the application running inside k8s. 13:46:00 <lxkong> For the people who are new to open source projects, my suggestion is to try to be the user of the project before actually looking into the implementation details, 13:46:10 <lxkong> install it, use it, debug it, fix it, and have fun with it 13:46:23 <lxkong> i think that's all i want to share with you :-) 13:46:39 <lxkong> vkmc: ^^ 13:47:27 <vkmc> lxkong, thanks! 13:47:44 <vkmc> it's good to finally chat with you 13:47:53 <lxkong> vkmc: me too 13:47:54 <vkmc> I know a few people from Catalyst :) 13:48:01 <lxkong> yeah, Feilong I guess 13:48:18 <vkmc> yes, Zaqar PTL nowadays 13:48:30 <lxkong> yeah, we work together 13:48:35 <vkmc> awesome! 13:49:02 <vkmc> and I was trying to learn a bit about the cloud-provider-openstack for k8s 13:49:21 <vkmc> good to know you are involved in that project... I might ping you later heh 13:49:33 <lxkong> sure, any time 13:49:35 * dtantsur waves at etingof 13:49:40 <lxkong> i think manila integration is also a part of it 13:49:45 <vkmc> lxkong, exactly! 13:50:02 <etingof> o/ 13:50:21 <vkmc> all right 13:50:27 <vkmc> moving along, so maybe we can freely chat later 13:50:35 <vkmc> we have etingof as well in the room now 13:50:38 <vkmc> thanks dtantsur for the pings! 13:50:42 <dtantsur> :) 13:50:44 <vkmc> dtantsur, want to introduce yourself? 13:50:53 <dtantsur> sure 13:51:16 <dtantsur> hi all! I'm Dmitry, I've been working on OpenStack Ironic for 4+ years (I think). 13:51:45 <dtantsur> I was born in Russia (near Moscow), moved to Czech Republic in 2014 to work for Red Hat, moved to Berlin last year 13:52:12 <dtantsur> also involved in TripleO and API SIG 13:52:32 <dtantsur> also writing an openstack SDK in Rust in my spare time. and playing bass :) 13:53:06 <dtantsur> together with Ilya we're helping sasha_jitsu and ajya work on redfish 13:53:17 <dtantsur> or rather, it's python implementation - sushy (yes, with Y in the end :) 13:53:42 <dtantsur> come to the openstack summit in Berlin this autumn ;) 13:53:50 <dtantsur> I guess that's me. questions? :) 13:54:10 <vkmc> niceeee 13:54:44 <dtantsur> some folks may remember me as a PTL for ironic in Pike and Queens 13:54:59 <vkmc> yes, I'm one of those folks 13:55:07 <dtantsur> :) 13:55:12 <vkmc> I don't know many people in Ironic but certainly I knew about you 13:55:24 <vkmc> that's awesome, it's good to meet you too! 13:55:43 <dtantsur> yeah, great to meet you too 13:55:46 <vkmc> etingof, want to say a few words about you? 13:57:00 <etingof> Hi all! I am Ilya, I work on OpenStack Ironic for 1 year. Prior to that I worked at RedHat security team herding hackers. 13:57:38 <etingof> Other than that I maintain a handful of open source projects (at GitHub) just for fun. An I play piano ;) 13:58:01 * dtantsur did not know about the piano bit, nice! 13:58:02 <etingof> together with dtantsur we're helping sasha_jitsu and ajya work on sushy 13:58:32 <vkmc> everybody is so talented here :) 13:58:33 <etingof> I think that's it for me ;) 13:58:56 <vkmc> all right, thanks for the intro 13:59:22 <vkmc> finally we have diablo_rojo_phon, but she is either sleeping (very early for her!) or celebrating 4th of July 13:59:27 <vkmc> so we might get her updates on email later 13:59:51 <vkmc> so, I'll start a very brief open discussion 13:59:57 <vkmc> #topic outreachy openstack open discussion 14:00:41 <vkmc> so... I wanted to have this meeting so we could know a few things about each other and encourage participation for everybody in this internships round 14:00:51 <vkmc> irc is always the best way to communicate in openstack 14:01:02 <vkmc> and I want you to know that anything you need, you can reach everybody in this channel 14:01:37 <vkmc> on other comments, as dtantsur mentioned, there is a community event (you can apply for a travel support grant to participate) happening in November in Berlin 14:01:44 <vkmc> it's called the OpenStack Summit 14:01:54 <vkmc> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/ 14:02:13 <vkmc> the call for papers is open, so if you think you can participate with a talk, you are encouraged to do it 14:02:23 <vkmc> ping me or your mentors and we can brainstorm a bit 14:02:28 <dtantsur> ++ 14:02:45 <vkmc> and/or* 14:03:00 <vkmc> we are overtime but... comments? questions? 14:03:08 <vkmc> sorry for all the changes at very last minute with this meeting 14:03:33 <etingof> do we have a whiteboard or a wiki may be? 14:03:46 <etingof> where all the news and important links are maintained 14:03:53 <vkmc> for this meeting in particular we have this etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-outreachy-midterm-may-aug-2018 14:04:01 <etingof> for instance I did not know about this channel 14:04:02 <vkmc> and we have this weeky for the internship in particular 14:04:06 * dtantsur proposes a face-to-face meetup in Berlin :D 14:04:22 <vkmc> etingof, that's bad to hear... we probably need to be more clear about this in the future 14:04:24 <vkmc> dtantsur++ 14:04:44 <ajya> yeah, I did not know about this channel too 14:04:45 <vkmc> etingof, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Outreachy 14:05:07 <vkmc> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Outreachy 14:05:15 <etingof> is it 404? 14:05:24 <Ne_> Thank you vkmc for arranging this meeting! It would be great for us interns to know from the mentors and yourself --" What do you see as your best skill, and how did you learn it?" It would be help for newbies like us in the industry 14:05:27 <etingof> or is it just empty? 14:05:28 <lxkong> no i can access 14:05:42 <vkmc> etingof, works for me...? 14:05:42 <dtantsur> the channel is only mentioned once in the wiki 14:05:54 <dtantsur> somewhere in the middle. we should probably make it more prominent indeed 14:06:02 * dtantsur is also in the "did not know" camp 14:06:16 <vkmc> dtantsur, maybe we can make a landing page as we have for projects 14:06:21 * vkmc takes notes 14:06:56 <dtantsur> Ne_: the best skill is listening to people (it may be harder than it seems). especially in open source, there are a lot of inputs, you have to balance all them. 14:07:37 <etingof> vkmc I am thinking it would be awesome if the participants would have a shared *editable* space for organizational matters like this IRC channel 14:08:23 <vkmc> Ne_, good to hear that this was a good meeting for you! and... in response to your query, my best skill is communication, and I think I learned it by seeing how the openstack community works... it was kinda hard at first, but I'm quite comfortable now 14:08:24 <etingof> dtantsur, +1 14:09:02 <vkmc> my mentor, jpich, pointed me to http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#uselists 14:09:05 <vkmc> #link http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#uselists 14:09:07 <vkmc> good reading :) 14:09:13 <Ne_> Thank you dtantsur, vkmc and etingof, these are indeed true :) 14:09:23 <vkmc> etingof, great idea! 14:09:54 <vkmc> all right 14:10:11 <vkmc> feel free to use this channel to bring up subjects... if people is not responsive, ping them 14:10:33 <vkmc> (always with some context, it is worth mentioning the concept of naked ping in https://blogs.gnome.org/markmc/2014/02/20/naked-pings/) 14:10:49 <vkmc> we are here for you 14:11:03 <etingof> vkmc, ping! I've invited you to participate in the summit talk ;-) 14:11:08 <vkmc> if we don't get right away, is because timezones... always blame timezones 14:11:22 <vkmc> etingof, yes, I'm get back to that after this meeting :D 14:11:27 <dtantsur> we should have mentioned our timezones.. 14:11:29 <etingof> thank you! 14:11:34 <vkmc> s/I'm get back/I'll get back/g 14:11:34 <dtantsur> mine is UTC+1/+2 14:11:37 <vkmc> thanks for the invite btw 14:11:49 <vkmc> mine is UTC-3 14:12:04 <vkmc> darn timezones 14:12:13 <lxkong> UTC+12 here, so it's very early morning 14:12:16 <dtantsur> oh yeah 14:12:27 <dtantsur> lxkong: does it even count as morning? :) 14:12:40 <lxkong> hah, 02:13AM 14:12:42 * dtantsur considers it night before 7am 14:12:48 <vkmc> lxkong, whaaat 14:13:04 * lxkong really needs some sleep 14:13:13 <vkmc> omg 14:13:14 <vkmc> go to sleep 14:13:15 <vkmc> haha 14:13:15 <Ne_> omg 14:13:32 * etingof is guessing that vkmc probably resides in Greenland ;) 14:13:38 <vkmc> all right, let's call this a meeting, but feel free to stay here chatting a bit more 14:13:41 <vkmc> #endmeeting