16:00:46 #startmeeting policy 16:00:47 Meeting started Wed Jan 31 16:00:46 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:52 The meeting name has been set to 'policy' 16:00:56 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting 16:01:00 agenda ^ 16:01:07 ping raildo, ktychkova, rderose, htruta, hrybacki, atrmr, gagehugo, lamt, thinrichs, edmondsw, ruan_he, ayoung, kmalloc, raj_singh, johnthetubaguy, knikolla, nhelgeson 16:01:29 * edmondsw is around 16:03:37 we'll wait for others to join 16:04:55 o/ 16:05:22 * knikolla cutting photos with scissors for the visa application 16:06:26 o/ 16:06:43 #topic Policy in code goal 16:06:54 now that we're past q-3 16:07:38 we'll probably either need to update the community goal with projects that are going to missing the goal 16:07:47 s/either// 16:07:50 https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/policy-in-code.html 16:08:01 remaining projects 16:08:04 #link https://www.lbragstad.com/policy-burndown/ 16:09:35 hopefully we can continue working with those projects to get things done in Rocky 16:09:58 cmurphy: do you know if it is possible to update the status of a goal after the release is out the door? 16:10:54 lbragstad: i see people submitting status updates for last cycle's goal so i don't think there's an issue 16:10:59 it's a goal not a deadline 16:11:28 right - i assuem we just clarify that in the goal for that specific project 16:11:37 (e.g. project Y completed this work in Rocky) 16:12:39 i can go through and work on that for various projects 16:12:45 that will miss the goal for this release 16:13:33 #topic open discussion 16:13:46 #info all the system scope stuff merged 16:14:08 with the exception of osc support for role assignments 16:15:41 does anyone have anything else specific to policy they'd like to share? 16:15:46 cross project specifics for the PTG? 16:16:08 i think cmurphy threw out a note to the mailing list about getting a baremetal/vm session going 16:17:08 no responses yet but lbragstad you could ask for a room for a day similar to what we had for the policy in code help session 16:17:14 for the system scope migration 16:17:14 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126743.html 16:17:25 yeah 16:17:41 i assume i should just respond to that thread asking for that 16:17:56 no sense in starting a new thread since it's a bm/vm topic 16:18:01 i wouldn't think anyway 16:20:38 #action lbragstad to request a topic room for system scope migration 16:20:47 anything else we should cover at the ptg? 16:21:04 should we set aside a few hours for projects trailing the policy-in-code goal? 16:22:24 how many are there? 16:22:50 might be good to ask them if they would take advantage of that time 16:23:24 about 10 - 12 16:23:36 ok - i can send another note about that then 16:23:48 #action lbragstad to send a note about projects trailing the policy goal 16:25:00 do we want to talk about breaking the system into a hierarchy or should we give it a cycle for adoption before kicking that ball forward 16:25:59 that will probably depend on how much granularity projects want 16:26:10 or operators 16:27:03 yep 16:27:30 i wonder how many operators we'll have in dublin 16:28:52 same as denver maybe? 16:28:58 i would think so.. 16:29:28 maybe being in europe will help 16:29:36 yeah... i hope so 16:29:51 i would expect folks from citynetwork to be there 16:30:43 i suppose we can float it by and see if we get bites 16:30:59 but otherwise we'll probably be busy just explaining the concept 16:31:11 let alone getting into breaking system into a hierarchy 16:31:46 true 16:31:59 we also have 16:32:00 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523973/ 16:32:20 oh nice, will have a look 16:32:36 i reworked that a bit ago, hoping that's another thing we have time for at the ptg 16:33:37 is there a list of cross-project topics and schedules? 16:33:48 i have not been reading the ml lately 16:33:59 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307&single=true 16:34:36 nice - that's what i was just looking for 16:35:27 so there's no BM/VM catch-all like last time 16:35:46 not yet - i don't think 16:36:25 not yet 16:37:04 there's space open if we want it but it would be kind of silly to have a room for that with only keystone in it 16:37:17 right 16:37:25 we'd need to make sure other projects are there 16:37:37 i know glance has some things they want to talk about regarding service tokens 16:37:37 agree 16:40:20 well - if we don't have anything else, we can adjourn and i can respond to those notes on the mailing list 16:40:41 * cmurphy nothing 16:41:07 sounds good - thanks for being her e 16:41:16 #endmeeting