18:00:34 <gmann> #startmeeting policy-popup 18:00:35 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jun 25 18:00:34 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:36 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:39 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'policy_popup' 18:00:45 <raildo> o/ 18:00:46 <gmann> this is right time. 18:00:50 <gmann> raildo: hi 18:01:01 <raildo> gmann, yo, how you doing? 18:01:20 <redrobot> \o 18:01:22 <raildo> #link Agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/default-policy-meeting-agenda 18:01:29 <gmann> 3 meeting today :) and gate stuff you know 18:01:34 <gmann> redrobot: hi 18:01:50 <gmann> let's wait for couple of min if more people shows up 18:01:57 <raildo> gmann, yeah, things are getting crazy this last days... 18:02:02 <raildo> yep 18:04:18 <gmann> let's start 18:04:24 <raildo> let's do it! 18:04:30 <gmann> #topic PTG feedback 18:04:47 <gmann> this is our first meeting after PTG 18:05:04 <gmann> we had great amount of discussion over new policy things and feedback too 18:05:41 <gmann> from oslo-nova cross projects sessions we captured the json->yaml migration plan which we will discuss in next topic 18:05:47 <raildo> indeed, the idea of making a virtual PTG it was pretty good, imho 18:06:02 <gmann> and keystone sessions on more investigation we should do to find out the missing things 18:06:12 <gmann> raildo: true, 18:06:43 <raildo> also some projects like manila, barbican, cyborg have some plans to start supporting default policies during victoria cycle 18:06:45 <gmann> discussions were productive 18:06:55 <gmann> yeah and neutron also 18:06:57 * gouthamr sneaks in 18:07:20 <raildo> yep, pretty cool result for the PTG :) 18:07:23 <gmann> we need to get some pre-work done before more projects start shipping that 18:07:29 <raildo> gouthamr, hey o/ 18:07:35 <gouthamr> o/ raildo 18:07:42 <gmann> discussions are n etherpad if anyone missed the sessions 18:08:35 <gmann> raildo: gouthamr redrobot please link the spec or code links on wiki if you have started or know about any other project has started 18:09:42 <gmann> anything else on PTG side? 18:09:52 <raildo> gouthamr, redrobot also, we added a fixed topic for "review requests" on the agenda, you can link any patch that needs our attention over it 18:10:02 <raildo> gmann, nope 18:10:13 <gmann> #topic Pre-work before adopting new policy on more projects 18:10:19 <redrobot> raildo, nice 18:10:32 <gmann> #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/victoria/policy-json-to-yaml.html 18:10:49 <gmann> ^^ this oslo spec captured the json->yaml transition plan 18:11:08 <gmann> this is very much needed things to finish before you ship the new policy to avoid the operators 18:11:28 <gmann> I will be working on this on priority and try to finish early in this cycle 18:12:03 <gmann> and one things we need on project side is to add the upgrade-checks for json format and switch the config option default value. 18:12:10 <bnemec> Even though that has merged, please take a look and let us know if there are any issues. 18:12:19 <gmann> I have plan to do in nova first as example 18:12:26 <bnemec> It's a security sensitive change so the more eyes we get on it the better. 18:12:28 <gmann> bnemec: +1 18:12:30 <raildo> bnemec, ack 18:13:16 <gmann> feedback from other projects will be valuable here if anything we are still missing or can do in better way from operators persepctive 18:14:13 <gmann> I will say we should add these pre-work things on projects review also to ack them and get more feedback if any 18:14:33 <gmann> let me record the action also 18:14:52 <gmann> #action to start the upgrade-check on nova as ref 18:15:30 <gmann> raildo: you want to take action to update wiki for pre-work section and there we will start listing down the things we need to burn down before projects start the implementation 18:15:58 <gmann> so that everyone can easily check the status and also can help 18:16:16 <gmann> #action gmann to start the upgrade-check on nova as ref 18:16:21 <raildo> #actoin to update wiki page with the pre-work for victoria cycle regarding the up-grade-check and json-to-yaml migration 18:16:27 <gmann> thanks 18:16:31 <raildo> oh lord... 18:16:36 <raildo> #action to update wiki page with the pre-work for victoria cycle regarding the up-grade-check and json-to-yaml migration 18:16:56 <raildo> gmann, awesome :) anything else? 18:17:11 <gmann> nothing else, let's move 18:17:22 <gmann> #topic Review Requests 18:17:31 <gmann> any review request? 18:17:53 <gmann> i know cyborg started the code last cycle but did not check if that is rebased and ready now 18:18:30 <gmann> no updates seems #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699102/ 18:19:10 <raildo> gmann, ack, let's keep our eyes on it 18:19:14 <gmann> anyways do ping us review here in meeting or add in wiki. 18:19:16 <gmann> yeah 18:19:37 <gmann> #topic Open Floor 18:20:00 <gmann> any other topic to discuss 18:20:25 <raildo> nothing from my side 18:20:42 <gmann> neutron team is starting the discussion, i talked to amotoki and due to TZ he could not not join meting. 18:21:21 <gmann> I will send the updated over ML and if we get more people from Asia TZ then we can adjust the meeting time also 18:22:15 <raildo> I'm ok with moving meeting time if needed, but let's see how it goes 18:22:57 <gmann> yeah, once we get more movementum and more things to discuss then we can re-iterate the timing. 18:23:11 <raildo> ack 18:24:02 <gmann> ok, let's close for today if nothing else to discuss and we will meet on 9th July(hope i am counted date correctly :)) 18:24:39 <raildo> that's right 18:24:44 <raildo> thanks everyone! 18:24:48 <gmann> ok 18:24:56 <gmann> thanks all for joining 18:25:01 <gmann> #endmeeting