18:00:34 #startmeeting policy-popup 18:00:35 Meeting started Thu Jun 25 18:00:34 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:39 The meeting name has been set to 'policy_popup' 18:00:45 o/ 18:00:46 this is right time. 18:00:50 raildo: hi 18:01:01 gmann, yo, how you doing? 18:01:20 \o 18:01:22 #link Agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/default-policy-meeting-agenda 18:01:29 3 meeting today :) and gate stuff you know 18:01:34 redrobot: hi 18:01:50 let's wait for couple of min if more people shows up 18:01:57 gmann, yeah, things are getting crazy this last days... 18:02:02 yep 18:04:18 let's start 18:04:24 let's do it! 18:04:30 #topic PTG feedback 18:04:47 this is our first meeting after PTG 18:05:04 we had great amount of discussion over new policy things and feedback too 18:05:41 from oslo-nova cross projects sessions we captured the json->yaml migration plan which we will discuss in next topic 18:05:47 indeed, the idea of making a virtual PTG it was pretty good, imho 18:06:02 and keystone sessions on more investigation we should do to find out the missing things 18:06:12 raildo: true, 18:06:43 also some projects like manila, barbican, cyborg have some plans to start supporting default policies during victoria cycle 18:06:45 discussions were productive 18:06:55 yeah and neutron also 18:06:57 * gouthamr sneaks in 18:07:20 yep, pretty cool result for the PTG :) 18:07:23 we need to get some pre-work done before more projects start shipping that 18:07:29 gouthamr, hey o/ 18:07:35 o/ raildo 18:07:42 discussions are n etherpad if anyone missed the sessions 18:08:35 raildo: gouthamr redrobot please link the spec or code links on wiki if you have started or know about any other project has started 18:09:42 anything else on PTG side? 18:09:52 gouthamr, redrobot also, we added a fixed topic for "review requests" on the agenda, you can link any patch that needs our attention over it 18:10:02 gmann, nope 18:10:13 #topic Pre-work before adopting new policy on more projects 18:10:19 raildo, nice 18:10:32 #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/victoria/policy-json-to-yaml.html 18:10:49 ^^ this oslo spec captured the json->yaml transition plan 18:11:08 this is very much needed things to finish before you ship the new policy to avoid the operators 18:11:28 I will be working on this on priority and try to finish early in this cycle 18:12:03 and one things we need on project side is to add the upgrade-checks for json format and switch the config option default value. 18:12:10 Even though that has merged, please take a look and let us know if there are any issues. 18:12:19 I have plan to do in nova first as example 18:12:26 It's a security sensitive change so the more eyes we get on it the better. 18:12:28 bnemec: +1 18:12:30 bnemec, ack 18:13:16 feedback from other projects will be valuable here if anything we are still missing or can do in better way from operators persepctive 18:14:13 I will say we should add these pre-work things on projects review also to ack them and get more feedback if any 18:14:33 let me record the action also 18:14:52 #action to start the upgrade-check on nova as ref 18:15:30 raildo: you want to take action to update wiki for pre-work section and there we will start listing down the things we need to burn down before projects start the implementation 18:15:58 so that everyone can easily check the status and also can help 18:16:16 #action gmann to start the upgrade-check on nova as ref 18:16:21 #actoin to update wiki page with the pre-work for victoria cycle regarding the up-grade-check and json-to-yaml migration 18:16:27 thanks 18:16:31 oh lord... 18:16:36 #action to update wiki page with the pre-work for victoria cycle regarding the up-grade-check and json-to-yaml migration 18:16:56 gmann, awesome :) anything else? 18:17:11 nothing else, let's move 18:17:22 #topic Review Requests 18:17:31 any review request? 18:17:53 i know cyborg started the code last cycle but did not check if that is rebased and ready now 18:18:30 no updates seems #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699102/ 18:19:10 gmann, ack, let's keep our eyes on it 18:19:14 anyways do ping us review here in meeting or add in wiki. 18:19:16 yeah 18:19:37 #topic Open Floor 18:20:00 any other topic to discuss 18:20:25 nothing from my side 18:20:42 neutron team is starting the discussion, i talked to amotoki and due to TZ he could not not join meting. 18:21:21 I will send the updated over ML and if we get more people from Asia TZ then we can adjust the meeting time also 18:22:15 I'm ok with moving meeting time if needed, but let's see how it goes 18:22:57 yeah, once we get more movementum and more things to discuss then we can re-iterate the timing. 18:23:11 ack 18:24:02 ok, let's close for today if nothing else to discuss and we will meet on 9th July(hope i am counted date correctly :)) 18:24:39 that's right 18:24:44 thanks everyone! 18:24:48 ok 18:24:56 thanks all for joining 18:25:01 #endmeeting